DePaul (UBS), Tue., Feb. 6, 6:30p, FS-1

Interesting juxtaposition on the site, posters making excuse after excuse focusing only on the record vis a vis posters taking about the effort and quality of play.
I will forever for the rest of my life quote Coach English, “eliminate losing”. I surely wish I heard that when I was coaching because it says it all. You may get beat but don’t lose! And this team hasn’t remotely begun to embrace that concept.
 
Understandable, but there's still ways to to pick up a marquee win or two (Marquette and Creighton), along with a couple good wins (Butler and Seton Hall), and a decent win (Providence).

We also still have a chance to up more marquee victories in the conference tournament. I may be a lil annoyed with the team, but I do know things can sometimes click at the right moment. Hopefully, this team soon "gets it" and start clicking.
I've arrived at the point of the season where I'm no longer optimistic about this team, but unlike the past five or so years, I also don't feel dead inside when thinking about the team. So I guess that's an upgrade lol.

I think we're as talented (if not more) as everyone but UCONN/Marquette/Creighton, it just all depends on the effort level -- which really annoys me to say on February 6th. We can even beat Marquette and Creighton on their okay day.
 
Guys- will be driving out there with the Fam- what is the "Closest" parking lot i should set my destination to?
Terrible place to drive to. There will be plenty of spots in the lots - i think you are best off buying the parking ahead of time, there's a discount of some sort if I remember. But the LIRR is the way to go. I'll be there via the train
 
Terrible place to drive to. There will be plenty of spots in the lots - i think you are best off buying the parking ahead of time, there's a discount of some sort if I remember. But the LIRR is the way to go. I'll be there via the train
I'm not picking on you, especially as I have no idea what your commute is, only commenting on it because it is repeated often. I've been to UBS four times now and keep getting there by car in less than 20 minutes and home the same. Door-to-door. That includes getting out of the parking lot. I live in New Hyde Park. I have no knowledge of what it is like coming from Queens/Manhattan/Brooklyn etc., or after a packed Islander game. I suspect if I still lived in Astoria I would drive, if I lived near the LIRR (which Astoria is not) I would train.

My point is I'm genuinely surprised by how many people from Nassau County, even Suffolk, would prefer taking the train. I'm not telling anyone what to do, and maybe it's drinking related, but it seems like it has to be longer timewise, and I will be shocked if anyone has difficulty getting out of the parking lot after a Depaul game. Are they running extra trains constantly? Not being snarky on this question, more trying to figure it out. I waited over an hour for a train from Penn Saturday, that's life when Manhattan is involved, but it isn't tonight. I don't hate the LIRR, I take it a lot to Citi Field (as a non-Manhattan example), but I can't imagine using it tonight.
 
I have been to numerous islander games since UBS opened. The two problems with driving are the rush hour traffic on any local parkway and the cost. I live in Babylon and take the Ronkonkoma line from the Farmingdale station. I save about 30 minutes and a ton of frustration on the way there. I lose maybe 10 or 15 minutes going home, but the train is still more relaxing, and I am not risking my life on the southern state.

The parking lots are not the issue. I would recommend parking in the Emerald (the north lot) and take a quick left once you pass the entrance (quick getaway). Use the shuttle bus by the train station to get to the arena or take the ten-minute walk.

The train is the way to go if you live near the main line or can dive to it, but my friends who regularly drive and park are fine with it.
 
Good comment . But , the Portal has created a new dynamic . Hurley is playing it to near perfection .
Bring in a stud Lottery pick guard every year. Like Boughnight. , Castle and the kid last year .
Next get a sharp shooting Transfer like Spencer. Keep a core level of talent , Clingan , Newton , Carrabann . Supplement with
a good recruit , like Bell , give him some PT sp he can contribute next year .

It’s easier to teach 2 new Starters your defensive and offense than 5 or 6 new players .

RP can do that and it will be interesting to see who he brings in from the Portal and whether he can still bring in that stud guard from HS .
Kids who have already committed are still fair game as we saw last year .
We already have a stud in Glover coming in next year. Maybe the Sleek Greek will surprise us also.
 
I'm not picking on you, especially as I have no idea what your commute is, only commenting on it because it is repeated often. I've been to UBS four times now and keep getting there by car in less than 20 minutes and home the same. Door-to-door. That includes getting out of the parking lot. I live in New Hyde Park. I have no knowledge of what it is like coming from Queens/Manhattan/Brooklyn etc., or after a packed Islander game. I suspect if I still lived in Astoria I would drive, if I lived near the LIRR (which Astoria is not) I would train.

My point is I'm genuinely surprised by how many people from Nassau County, even Suffolk, would prefer taking the train. I'm not telling anyone what to do, and maybe it's drinking related, but it seems like it has to be longer timewise, and I will be shocked if anyone has difficulty getting out of the parking lot after a Depaul game. Are they running extra trains constantly? Not being snarky on this question, more trying to figure it out. I waited over an hour for a train from Penn Saturday, that's life when Manhattan is involved, but it isn't tonight. I don't hate the LIRR, I take it a lot to Citi Field (as a non-Manhattan example), but I can't imagine using it tonight.
The train is a really easy decision if you are even close as mineola . It’s a 7 minute train ride and the 5:42 train is only 5 minutes
 

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I'm not picking on you, especially as I have no idea what your commute is, only commenting on it because it is repeated often. I've been to UBS four times now and keep getting there by car in less than 20 minutes and home the same. Door-to-door. That includes getting out of the parking lot. I live in New Hyde Park. I have no knowledge of what it is like coming from Queens/Manhattan/Brooklyn etc., or after a packed Islander game. I suspect if I still lived in Astoria I would drive, if I lived near the LIRR (which Astoria is not) I would train.

My point is I'm genuinely surprised by how many people from Nassau County, even Suffolk, would prefer taking the train. I'm not telling anyone what to do, and maybe it's drinking related, but it seems like it has to be longer timewise, and I will be shocked if anyone has difficulty getting out of the parking lot after a Depaul game. Are they running extra trains constantly? Not being snarky on this question, more trying to figure it out. I waited over an hour for a train from Penn Saturday, that's life when Manhattan is involved, but it isn't tonight. I don't hate the LIRR, I take it a lot to Citi Field (as a non-Manhattan example), but I can't imagine using it tonight.

So I'm usually coming from around Huntington. For a 6:30 or 7 PM weeknight game at either Carnesecca or UBS I have to budget close to 90 minutes for driving if I want to be sure to be in my seat for the tip. The Grand Central is terrible; the Cross Island is worse.

By contrast its 30 minutes on the LIRR. I have 2-3 trains per hour back, if I drive to Hicksville then it's 20 minutes on the train and I have 4 trains per hour coming back. As Mike said Mineola is 10 minutes and it's 4 trains an hour coming back although I don't generally use that station.

So for me it's an absolute no brainer to take the train, and if the OP is coming from middle of Nassau or east, probably for him too. Train for 4 may be marginally more expensive than parking, but still a whole lot easier.
 
So I'm usually coming from around Huntington. For a 6:30 or 7 PM weeknight game at either Carnesecca or UBS I have to budget close to 90 minutes for driving if I want to be sure to be in my seat for the tip. The Grand Central is terrible; the Cross Island is worse.

By contrast its 30 minutes on the LIRR. I have 2-3 trains per hour back, if I drive to Hicksville then it's 20 minutes on the train and I have 4 trains per hour coming back. As Mike said Mineola is 10 minutes and it's 4 trains an hour coming back although I don't generally use that station.

So for me it's an absolute no brainer to take the train, and if the OP is coming from middle of Nassau or east, probably for him too. Train for 4 may be marginally more expensive than parking, but still a whole lot easier.

In similar situation with my soccer team and I always drive. Getting there on weekdays is a rush hour nightmare. But getting home quickly at night is always my first priority. Also the LA metro isn't as nice or dependable as the LIRR I guess. PS for anyone wondering even thought it's women's soccer the average home attendance is over 19K so there's even more cars/people than a hoops game.

But I think for some it's an outrage having to pay $40 to park a car, though your math about parking costs vs. 4 train tickets is sound. But parking is a business, not a public service. And a very profitable one. When McCourt sold the Dodgers he also sold the stadium, but held on to the lots surrounding it. :ROFLMAO:
 
So I'm usually coming from around Huntington. For a 6:30 or 7 PM weeknight game at either Carnesecca or UBS I have to budget close to 90 minutes for driving if I want to be sure to be in my seat for the tip. The Grand Central is terrible; the Cross Island is worse.

By contrast its 30 minutes on the LIRR. I have 2-3 trains per hour back, if I drive to Hicksville then it's 20 minutes on the train and I have 4 trains per hour coming back. As Mike said Mineola is 10 minutes and it's 4 trains an hour coming back although I don't generally use that station.

So for me it's an absolute no brainer to take the train, and if the OP is coming from middle of Nassau or east, probably for him too. Train for 4 may be marginally more expensive than parking, but still a whole lot easier.
Didn’t really think about rush hour and 6:30 - that’s what happens when you are old and retired. I did use to reverse commute from Huntington to NHP so I get that now. I will say though that the same commentary (not from you) went on prior to the weekend Hofstra game, I seemed to be in the minority in not taking the LIRR. Odd to me, in that situation, but to each his own.

I don’t prefer UBS overall but do find it super convenient. I find it ironic that so many from LI do not as it was primarily built for the Islanders. And that is not a shot taken - I have no dog in the NY hockey fight.
 
If I had a nickel for everytime I read or heard that we'll easily sweep the 2 conference catfish...I'd have many nickels. Will take a good deal of coaching acumen to not just have the team rolling out the balls and assuming victory. My take is 3 and 1 with a Georgetown split.
You may be right, but 3 and 1 would be a disaster and likely end our hopes for the tourney in Pitino’s first year.
 
Didn’t really think about rush hour and 6:30 - that’s what happens when you are old and retired. I did use to reverse commute from Huntington to NHP so I get that now. I will say though that the same commentary (not from you) went on prior to the weekend Hofstra game, I seemed to be in the minority in not taking the LIRR. Odd to me, in that situation, but to each his own.

I don’t prefer UBS overall but do find it super convenient. I find it ironic that so many from LI do not as it was primarily built for the Islanders. And that is not a shot taken - I have no dog in the NY hockey fight.
I know you want the garden relocated to grand central just for the great adventure escalator 10 minute ride up :eek: :LOL:
 
Didn’t really think about rush hour and 6:30 - that’s what happens when you are old and retired. I did use to reverse commute from Huntington to NHP so I get that now. I will say though that the same commentary (not from you) went on prior to the weekend Hofstra game, I seemed to be in the minority in not taking the LIRR. Odd to me, in that situation, but to each his own.

I don’t prefer UBS overall but do find it super convenient. I find it ironic that so many from LI do not as it was primarily built for the Islanders. And that is not a shot taken - I have no dog in the NY hockey fight.

UBS v Carnesecca is a tough one. Carnesecca is a terrible arena and I have no choice but to drive. But it has character and fan support. UBS is a nice space but completely sterile and has no fan support at all (plus I'm a Rangers fan but that is only a tiny part of the equation here). HOWEVER, it is super easy to get in and out by train, which is a huge plus in maximizing time and minimizing aggravation.

On balance, iIf we could get crowds and a homecourt vibe at UBS I would happily play all non-MSG games there.

But realistically I think it's more likely that SJU gives up on UBS except for maybe one game per season and tries to build the program to where it makes sense to play 10 Garden games and 5 on campus.
 
I know you want the garden relocated to grand central just for the great adventure escalator 10 minute ride up :eek: :LOL:
If you climb the escalator as I do routinely you can make it in 90 seconds. Plus get some exercise in.
 
If you climb the escalator as I do routinely you can make it in 90 seconds. Plus get some exercise in.
Thats if you aren't freaked out and frozen to your step you are on lol. I kid but wow I was not expecting that at all on friday.

Thats still amazing that it takes that long walking up it while its moving.
 
UBS v Carnesecca is a tough one. Carnesecca is a terrible arena and I have no choice but to drive. But it has character and fan support. UBS is a nice space but completely sterile and has no fan support at all (plus I'm a Rangers fan but that is only a tiny part of the equation here). HOWEVER, it is super easy to get in and out by train, which is a huge plus in maximizing time and minimizing aggravation.

On balance, iIf we could get crowds and a homecourt vibe at UBS I would happily play all non-MSG games there.

But realistically I think it's more likely that SJU gives up on UBS except for maybe one game per season and tries to build the program to where it makes sense to play 10 Garden games and 5 on campus.
Agree 10 games at MSG. Maybe more if scheduling 2 or 3 "top 25 games"
CA - Max 5. Maybe less.
UBS - 1 (Hofstra)
 
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