[quote="SJUFAN2" post=379018][quote="newsman13" post=378984][quote="L J S A" post=378920][quote="newsman13" post=378917]
That's why we need to be in a conference we can dominate.[/quote]
Recruiting doesn't stay at Big East level if you drop to MAAC level.
Attendance doesn't stay at Big East levels for MAAC games.
Cut of conference revenue doesn't stay at Big East levels for MAAC.
MAAC teams can't afford to play at MSG.[/quote]
We're recruiting at a MAAC level right now. We have exciting players coming in...but realistically they're going to be on the receiving end of numerous beat-downs. It's one reason the most elite players are avoiding us.
Attendance at Big East levels? We're not filling the house at Big East levels. Winning fills houses. We win and Carnesecca Arena will be packed. We can jazz up our OOC games with four or five major teams. Like Gonzaga, San Diego State and Dayton do, we can win a few of these...
Our of conference revenue? How much is that? Are we expected to live off the teat of all the other teams besides DePaul in the BE?
We're losing money today by turning MSG into a ghost town. Winners like us against elite teams...including rivalries...fill houses. We won't pay the garden any less than we do now...
This team in the Big East is a big joke... As everyone says, look up irrelevance in the dictionary and the St John's logo pops up. It's a shame that Iona...St Peters...and other locals make the big show, while we're trashing past and present coaches year after year after year.[/quote]
I don't even know where to start...Couple of quick points:
1) We aren't recruiting at a MAAC level right now, but even if we were and those were the absolute best caliber players we could land...They are coming here now to get a BETTER opportunity than the MAAC. If we dropped down to that conference, its folly to suggest that we'd be as attractive to those recruits as we are now. We'd assuredly have to lower the bar to start recruiting DII talent that would want to play in the MAAC.
2) Our attendance numbers will always suck so long as we play most of our games at CA.
3) Big East TV revenue is roughly $4.2M a year per team, with that number supposedly going up to $5.5-6m when Uconn is added for next season. Conversely, the MAAC doesn't seem to have a national hoops contract. Iona, which is who we'd become if your wet dream became reality, had $1.6m in all revenues last year from their men's hoops team. Good luck maintaining our facilities, and recruiting at their current levels, when you cut our hoops revenue by 80%. Unless you want to cut a check to make up the difference, moving to the MAAC would be a death sentence for this program.
4) If we went to the MAAC we wouldn't be playing in the Garden. With an 80% reduction in revenue we wouldn't be able to take a loss to play there just to retain that relationship while we get our house in order.
So to recap, your plan is to drop to the MAAC in order to beat up on lesser opponents with the level of players we have now. This will result in our getting an automatic bid as a 12-16 seed and will lead to our getting bounced in the 1st round every year.
You like that plan so much you are willing give up $5-6m in TV revenue every year, stop playing at MSG (since we won't be able to afford it any longer) and roll the dice that we'd be able to maintain our current level of recruiting despite losing 80% of the programs revenues so we can win all the time... which will then lead to top 100 players to wanting to come here by the bus load and make us an elite program.
Brilliant.[/quote]
I've pretty much said something similar to him about a month ago. But he continues to push his lack of foresight agenda.
If he's trolling, it's a poor troll job and ain't even funny. If he's serious (which I kinda believe that's the case), then.... never mind.