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We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

We overreact? He started N'daye and Felix in a game we needed to win!!
We have 6 top100 talents on the roster and he started 2 of them. 2!

Everyone here knows how much I like Coach Lavin, but I just cannot make any sense of this.

I am assuming he was flexing his muscles and making a statement to certain players. There must be issues in the family that he is trying to correct? Benching your better players may work in the middle school/high school level to prove a point, but when every game has our NCAA tourney lives riding on it, you can't start N'daye and Felix as Jordan and Jakarr watch. We handed the Hoyas the game in the opening minutes by this move.

I am beyond stunned by what I saw today from a Coach I respect immensely.

Marillac is correct that we tend to split hairs on every single thing with this team. But, there is no overreacting on this one. It was an awful move and makes our program look like a mess.

This. Whatever motivational bs Lavin tried to pull clearly backfired. He better hope he doesn't lose the team, if he hasn't done so already. Today was embarrassing.

On point! How was shopping?

Miserable and expensive. Better than watching the debacle in DC. At least the wife is momentarily happy.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

We overreact? He started N'daye and Felix in a game we needed to win!!
We have 6 top100 talents on the roster and he started 2 of them. 2!
Our best recruit in Lavin's regime was set to leave last week, and he told us he went home to visit his mom.
And we've been embarrassed in our first two conference games of the season. The team is regressing in every meaningful way.

We were down 32points to G-Town, yet we over react???? I`m getting a head ache.

Desco, we could lose by 50 and people would say that we`re over reacting.
People like Marillic and Dinkins try to sugar coat every loss instead of saying it how it really is.

and becareful, if ya say anything negative about Lavin then the post will get deleted. I love having a coach that smiles after being down 32pnts.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

I consider myself a fairly rational poster. This game was a Normesque disgrace. This game put the D in Debacle

Since Beastie isn't online right now. I pounded your Karma key another 45 times!
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

Let me have some of what your smoking.
This season is over.
Imagine who he'll start next week?
Lipscombe?
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

Let me have some of what your smoking.
This season is over.
Imagine who he'll start next week?
Lipscombe?

The crazy thing is, this team seems to be able to get up for big opponents like the Cuse and even the Wisconsin game was decent. Maybe they will be up for Nova. But they better be able to guard against the 3 point shot because Nova can shoot the ball.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

Let me have some of what your smoking.
This season is over.
Imagine who he'll start next week?
Lipscombe?

The crazy thing is, this team seems to be able to get up for big opponents like the Cuse and even the Wisconsin game was decent. Maybe they will be up for Nova. But they better be able to guard against the 3 point shot because Nova can shoot the ball.

The crowd will probably suck.
Students on break and you can forget about any walk up curiosity seekers.
This ain't your Dwight Hardy team.
People wanted to see that team play.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.


Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

This is one of the most outrageous posts I have read in a while. We got the crap kicked out of us and were never in the game. Their starters were gone with 10 minutes left. Had jtiiii wanted they could have beat us by 30. It is not just the loss but the absolute shellacking we received. If you want to be calm good for you but the majority are thoroughly disenchanted. We have an experienced and deep team. Why are we starting Walkons?
Why are we not competitive?
No reason for us not to be in every game to the last second.

Personally I think the fan base is very calm as a result of poor performances for so long. Our expectations have been so diminished. It is so very sad.
When I was a fan in the 80s I expected us to be top 10 every season. Now we have fans telling us to wait until 50percent of the season is over before we should expect the team to gel.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

Let me have some of what your smoking.
This season is over.
Imagine who he'll start next week?
Lipscombe?

The crazy thing is, this team seems to be able to get up for big opponents like the Cuse and even the Wisconsin game was decent. Maybe they will be up for Nova. But they better be able to guard against the 3 point shot because Nova can shoot the ball.

Dee, please tell me in all seriousness. This is a conf game, is it not? So how do you not get up for a conf game? Just please tell me how you don`t get up for a conf game?
Stop making excuses.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

We overreact? He started N'daye and Felix in a game we needed to win!!
We have 6 top100 talents on the roster and he started 2 of them. 2!

Everyone here knows how much I like Coach Lavin, but I just cannot make any sense of this.

I am assuming he was flexing his muscles and making a statement to certain players. There must be issues in the family that he is trying to correct? Benching your better players may work in the middle school/high school level to prove a point, but when every game has our NCAA tourney lives riding on it, you can't start N'daye and Felix as Jordan and Jakarr watch. We handed the Hoyas the game in the opening minutes by this move.

I am beyond stunned by what I saw today from a Coach I respect immensely.

Marillac is correct that we tend to split hairs on every single thing with this team. But, there is no overreacting on this one. It was an awful move and makes our program look like a mess.

This. Whatever motivational bs Lavin tried to pull clearly backfired. He better hope he doesn't lose the team, if he hasn't done so already. Today was embarrassing.

On point! How was shopping?

Miserable and expensive. Better than watching the debacle in DC. At least the wife is momentarily happy.

That's why I asked to go with you. My wife is not happy due to her lunatic husband caring about this nonsense. Lol
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.


Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

This is one of the most outrageous posts I have read in a while. We got the crap kicked out of us and were never in the game. Their starters were gone with 10 minutes left. Had jtiiii wanted they could have beat us by 30. It is not just the loss but the absolute shellacking we received. If you want to be calm good for you but the majority are thoroughly disenchanted. We have an experienced and deep team. Why are we starting Walkons?
Why are we not competitive?
No reason for us not to be in every game to the last second.

Personally I think the fan base is very calm as a result of poor performances for so long. Our expectations have been so diminished. It is so very sad.
When I was a fan in the 80s I expected us to be top 10 every season. Now we have fans telling us to wait until 50percent of the season is over before we should expect the team to gel.

Exactlyyyyyyyyyyyy you hit it right on. I read posts on here I`m like
whatttttttttttttttt are you kidding me.

I don`t give Thank yous very often but I`ll give you one, and how do you give karma on here?

I`m always thinking how it was in the 80s and how bad I want those days back. and by saying: "I expected top 10 every season." He means rankings, not top 10 in the conf.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

Let me have some of what your smoking.
This season is over.
Imagine who he'll start next week?
Lipscombe?

The crazy thing is, this team seems to be able to get up for big opponents like the Cuse and even the Wisconsin game was decent. Maybe they will be up for Nova. But they better be able to guard against the 3 point shot because Nova can shoot the ball.

Dee, please tell me in all seriousness. This is a conf game, is it not? So how do you not get up for a conf game? Just please tell me how you don`t get up for a conf game?
Stop making excuses.

I agree with SJUISBACK with regard to their being no more excuses. This team has enough raw talent to win plenty of games. Lavin and his staff have had 2+ years to cultivate that talent. That hasn't happened. This team has regressed. There is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, as was alluded to by other posters in previous posts. The wheels have obviously fallen off and it looks as if Lavin has lost this team. Whatever the circumstances are, Lavin is the captain of this ship and he is responsible. This is all on him. As I said previously, if this team does not make the NCAA Tournament, Lavin should be let go immediately after the tournament pairings come out. as it stands now, the only way this team is getting there is if they win the Big East Tournament. I also had a real issue with Lavin smiling after the game. Then for him to say, "Sometimes it has to get worse before it gets better." in a post game interview is ridiculous. It's clear this whole thing is falling apart on him.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

We overreact? He started N'daye and Felix in a game we needed to win!!
We have 6 top100 talents on the roster and he started 2 of them. 2!
Our best recruit in Lavin's regime was set to leave last week, and he told us he went home to visit his mom.
And we've been embarrassed in our first two conference games of the season. The team is regressing in every meaningful way.

We were down 32points to G-Town, yet we over react???? I`m getting a head ache.

Desco, we could lose by 50 and people would say that we`re over reacting.
People like Marillic and Dinkins try to sugar coat every loss instead of saying it how it really is.

and becareful, if ya say anything negative about Lavin then the post will get deleted. I love having a coach that smiles after being down 32pnts.

I was banned from this site for years for being too critical of Norm. I am not a Kool Aid guy. I predicted Gtown to win. So did the rest of the reasonable world. I think we'll go on a nice run, starting with a win over Nova.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

But Marillac...the way we played was just unacceptable...GT is not a great team...we should have been in this game...playing around with lineups, disorganized play is just terrible
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

We overreact? He started N'daye and Felix in a game we needed to win!!
We have 6 top100 talents on the roster and he started 2 of them. 2!
Our best recruit in Lavin's regime was set to leave last week, and he told us he went home to visit his mom.
And we've been embarrassed in our first two conference games of the season. The team is regressing in every meaningful way.

We were down 32points to G-Town, yet we over react???? I`m getting a head ache.

Desco, we could lose by 50 and people would say that we`re over reacting.
People like Marillic and Dinkins try to sugar coat every loss instead of saying it how it really is.

and becareful, if ya say anything negative about Lavin then the post will get deleted. I love having a coach that smiles after being down 32pnts.

I was banned from this site for years for being too critical of Norm. I am not a Kool Aid guy. I predicted Gtown to win. So did the rest of the reasonable world. I think we'll go on a nice run, starting with a win over Nova.

Marillac, I`ll tell you what. I don`t care if I get banned, if Lavin sucks as coach then I`m gonna say what`s on my mind.
If they threaten me with a ban then hey so be it. Are we in a church that we can`t say how we feel?

It`s only a message board, life goes on.

Now after this post yep I might get banned, so if I can`t get back on then take care everyone. and go REDMEN.
 
For me the play that epitomized the oblivious nature of our play was Sampson's push in the back after a steal when the layup was basically already made...incredible
 
For me the play that epitomized the oblivious nature of our play was Sampson's push in the back after a steal when the layup was basically already made...incredible

Agreed Section3, it shows that either they're oblivious or they just don't care because something else is going on and they're upset.
 
We overreact more than any fan base in the country. We lost on the road to Georgetown. Did you expect a win? Kenpom gave them a 24% chance to win. @Xavier, @Gtown and then #11 Nova is a brutal start.

Let's not head the ledge just yet. I think we beat Nova at MSG.

We overreact? He started N'daye and Felix in a game we needed to win!!
We have 6 top100 talents on the roster and he started 2 of them. 2!
Our best recruit in Lavin's regime was set to leave last week, and he told us he went home to visit his mom.
And we've been embarrassed in our first two conference games of the season. The team is regressing in every meaningful way.

We were down 32points to G-Town, yet we over react???? I`m getting a head ache.

Desco, we could lose by 50 and people would say that we`re over reacting.
People like Marillic and Dinkins try to sugar coat every loss instead of saying it how it really is.

and becareful, if ya say anything negative about Lavin then the post will get deleted. I love having a coach that smiles after being down 32pnts.

I was banned from this site for years for being too critical of Norm. I am not a Kool Aid guy. I predicted Gtown to win. So did the rest of the reasonable world. I think we'll go on a nice run, starting with a win over Nova.

That's not why you were banned, though it's good to have you back. Who'd have thunk that you'd turn into the biggest "Normie" of them all :)
 
Marillac, respect your knowledge of game. That said, it is not a matter of what and how many games we have lost. Angst on my part is reflective of how poorly we are playing, evolving and being coached. You, I & many welcomed the Euro tour and pre season as an opportunities to work out the kinks, have a sense of effective player combinations and institute an effective system of play. Let's be honest. That has not occurred and folks have lost confidence in Lavin's ability to maximize the talent he brought here. Surely when you see the odd lineups, it appears symptomatic of glaring leadership issues. The players may be underachieving, but can't we expect Lav to instill confidence that we can achieve a solid level of play?
 
I am truly sad. Once again, the program is a disaster and offering little hope.

Somehow i know they are not going to fire Lavin and we will re-live this mess again next year.

Marillac....I just can't see what you see. I just can't imagine what you are seeing that gives you hope.
 
For me the play that epitomized the oblivious nature of our play was Sampson's push in the back after a steal when the layup was basically already made...incredible

Agreed Section3, it shows that either they're oblivious or they just don't care because something else is going on and they're upset.


I've had 3 ARNOLD PALMERS since the game ended so I've been medicated. I agree with Mean Gene that there is obviously something happening in the Locker Room that hasn't surfaced to public knowledge.

Many thought Jordan was transferring over the Holidays when Balamou was activated after being Redshirted.. Next, Lavin has yo yoed Branch, Jordan, to some extent Greene and that isn't helping morale. Meanwhile Harrison gets to chuck poor shots, without reprisals? Sampson plays like he's in the schoolyard, without teammates.

Harrison isn't a good enough percentage shooter to be your only option offensively and Sampson is strictly one on one player..Pointer can't throw the ball in the Ocean and has no handle.

Throw in poor preparation, listless starts and no intensity and bizarre lineups, makes me think Lavin has lost his players. I hope I'm wrong but, there appears to be smoke in the Gym.

And, commenting that he should have played walkons more, does Lavin think he's a comedian.
 
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