Coach Anderson
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[quote="Knight" post=378477]The man is a Class Act. He works. He and his staff recruit and teach. Could not ask for a better representative of the university and the program. Better things are coming.[/quote]
And even if they don’t, your first three sentences spell out very clearly why it was still a great hire.
And even if they don’t, your first three sentences spell out very clearly why it was still a great hire.
SJU14
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=378467]To those who are "sure" or "certain" CMA will succeed here, I wonder how you're so confident. In the last 5 seasons up to present, we are 23-62 in the Big East. We are winning 37% of our conference games losing 63% of the time. We have done absolutely nothing in the Big East tournament even though it's our home court. Of course that's not all on CMA...Mullin was coach for most of that time but other than a few random wins against WVU and Zona, I'm not sure what there is to be so optimistic about other than praying Posh, Wusu, Cole all turn into top Big East players but that's asking a ton. We seem to put all our eggs in on defense and I'm just not sure you can win that way here. Many of the teams in our conference have competent half court offenses or better. In today's game you seem to need a consistent half court offense with lots of shooters and at least 1 true big man and really several 6'10+ bigs in addition. I'm not saying CMA won't do well here...I'm still waiting to see more obviously, but just curious what has some fans so certain that he is the one to turn things around. We are so far behind every other program not named DePaul and even they have a new arena and probably better facilities. I talk with so many random people who are not diehards but know SJU and the history. The consensus in the real world with people in the street is that we cannot compete in the current climate and it's not the 80's anymore. It's like we are stuck in the 80's while other programs zoomed into the future. But on this site there seem to many fans who are certain things will be different now. What are you seeing that other fans aren't?[/quote]
I find it weird that your post bashing our current coach of 3/4 season that you used the last 5 years as your backing point.
I find it weird that your post bashing our current coach of 3/4 season that you used the last 5 years as your backing point.
[quote="Knight" post=378477]The man is a Class Act. He works. He and his staff recruit and teach. Could not ask for a better representative of the university and the program. Better things are coming.[/quote]
Have you come over to the Dark Side?
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I think I’ll use what you said as my mantra.
Have you come over to the Dark Side?
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I think I’ll use what you said as my mantra.
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Class of 72
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Coach Anderson has done all he could with the cards dealt him this season. Before the McGriff surgery, the Steere fiasco and the Heron injuries I had hoped for an 18 game season and an NIT bid. Even with those player issues we came close to winning 17 games when we take into account the close losses. Without those players we are merely watching coach Anderson prepare for next season and trying to figure out who will be returning. Year two is a critical year for this staff as we expect better players and better recruiting to give fans optimism for future seasons. There are only four legit players who can contribute next season but none are projected starters in my opinion. If the staff is able to get a serviceable Big man we should be fine next season considering we only had Josh Roberts this year with Steere bombing and Sears not a D1 player.
Roberts foul shots look so much better. The hitch is gone along with the ball no longer being released from behind his head. Nice to see the improvement. I have a soft spot for this kid. Want him to stick around and improve his game to the next level. Nice job coaching him on this aspect of the game.
Classof 72 wrote: Coach Anderson has done all he could with the cards dealt him this season. Before the McGriff surgery, the Steere fiasco and the Heron injuries I had hoped for an 18 game season and an NIT bid. Even with those player issues we came close to winning 17 games when we take into account the close losses. Without those players we are merely watching coach Anderson prepare for next season and trying to figure out who will be returning. Year two is a critical year for this staff as we expect better players and better recruiting to give fans optimism for future seasons. There are only four legit players who can contribute next season but none are projected starters in my opinion. If the staff is able to get a serviceable Big man we should be fine next season considering we only had Josh Roberts this year with Steere bombing and Sears not a D1 player.
Agree for the most part, except that Champagnie is absolutely a 4 year starter. Not even debatable imho.
Agree for the most part, except that Champagnie is absolutely a 4 year starter. Not even debatable imho.
Lambsbball
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Mike and his staff have recruited and developed several players that play in the NBA.
DeMarre Carroll (Rockets) played at Missouri. Bobby Portis (Knicks) and Daniel Gafford (Bulls) played at Arkansas. Mike recruited & coached Isaiah Joe for a season. He's currently playing for Eric Musselman at Arkansas and is a potential first-round NBA Draft pick.
There's other former players that I can't remember without researching on Google.
Mike will recruit someone with similar talent for the Johnnies. It may take a couple seasons but he'll convince a top 4 star prospect to sign. Mike knows how to develop talent and his staff will get the most from them. We're already seeing Julian Champagnie improve and he should be even better on a team with more talent.
DeMarre Carroll (Rockets) played at Missouri. Bobby Portis (Knicks) and Daniel Gafford (Bulls) played at Arkansas. Mike recruited & coached Isaiah Joe for a season. He's currently playing for Eric Musselman at Arkansas and is a potential first-round NBA Draft pick.
There's other former players that I can't remember without researching on Google.
Mike will recruit someone with similar talent for the Johnnies. It may take a couple seasons but he'll convince a top 4 star prospect to sign. Mike knows how to develop talent and his staff will get the most from them. We're already seeing Julian Champagnie improve and he should be even better on a team with more talent.
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Class of 72
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=378500]Classof 72 wrote: Coach Anderson has done all he could with the cards dealt him this season. Before the McGriff surgery, the Steere fiasco and the Heron injuries I had hoped for an 18 game season and an NIT bid. Even with those player issues we came close to winning 17 games when we take into account the close losses. Without those players we are merely watching coach Anderson prepare for next season and trying to figure out who will be returning. Year two is a critical year for this staff as we expect better players and better recruiting to give fans optimism for future seasons. There are only four legit players who can contribute next season but none are projected starters in my opinion. If the staff is able to get a serviceable Big man we should be fine next season considering we only had Josh Roberts this year with Steere bombing and Sears not a D1 player.
Agree for the most part, except that Champagnie is absolutely a 4 year starter. Not even debatable imho.[/quote]
On this team with this level talent yes but on the type of team needed to challenge for a Big East title no. Maybe JC can be that starter in years 3 and 4 but he is the ideal 6th man on a loaded team. He may start next season but by year 3 I hope that he would be challenged for starter minutes by a highly rated 4 star impact player. Same can be said about Marcellus who is very effective as a 6th or 7th man until he improves his shooting touch.
Agree for the most part, except that Champagnie is absolutely a 4 year starter. Not even debatable imho.[/quote]
On this team with this level talent yes but on the type of team needed to challenge for a Big East title no. Maybe JC can be that starter in years 3 and 4 but he is the ideal 6th man on a loaded team. He may start next season but by year 3 I hope that he would be challenged for starter minutes by a highly rated 4 star impact player. Same can be said about Marcellus who is very effective as a 6th or 7th man until he improves his shooting touch.
Ray Morgan
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If for some reason CMA doesn't succeed here, it won't be for lack of trying. He has to do what no one in the past 20 years could do with any consistency: recruit a high major roster. This will probably be a more difficult rebuild than anyone hoped for. Quick turnarounds requires a monster recruiting class. Not likely to happen here any time soon.
Getting through the Big East schedule is like walking through a minefield. Every school ahead of us doesn't look to falter anytime soon. CMA has an enormous challenge ahead. To do well in a place that ate up every coach since Looie.
Getting through the Big East schedule is like walking through a minefield. Every school ahead of us doesn't look to falter anytime soon. CMA has an enormous challenge ahead. To do well in a place that ate up every coach since Looie.
[quote="Class of 72" post=378503][quote="NCJohnnie" post=378500]Classof 72 wrote: Coach Anderson has done all he could with the cards dealt him this season. Before the McGriff surgery, the Steere fiasco and the Heron injuries I had hoped for an 18 game season and an NIT bid. Even with those player issues we came close to winning 17 games when we take into account the close losses. Without those players we are merely watching coach Anderson prepare for next season and trying to figure out who will be returning. Year two is a critical year for this staff as we expect better players and better recruiting to give fans optimism for future seasons. There are only four legit players who can contribute next season but none are projected starters in my opinion. If the staff is able to get a serviceable Big man we should be fine next season considering we only had Josh Roberts this year with Steere bombing and Sears not a D1 player.
Agree for the most part, except that Champagnie is absolutely a 4 year starter. Not even debatable imho.[/quote]
On this team with this level talent yes but on the type of team needed to challenge for a Big East title no. Maybe JC can be that starter in years 3 and 4 but he is the ideal 6th man on a loaded team. He may start next season but by year 3 I hope that he would be challenged for starter minutes by a highly rated 4 star impact player. Same can be said about Marcellus who is very effective as a 6th or 7th man until he improves his shooting touch.[/quote]
I think you’re off on Champ. His shooting will improve, and he’s got the instincts to be a very solid 4 year guy. He’ll be all big East for 2 season if continues on his trajectory. Both him and his twin are very good players. I’m pleasantly surprised right now. Just like the fact he lets the game come to him. And his aggressiveness is picking up. And he’s a plus rebounder at 6’7 as a frosh. He’s a lock in the starting lineup, esp this year.
Agree for the most part, except that Champagnie is absolutely a 4 year starter. Not even debatable imho.[/quote]
On this team with this level talent yes but on the type of team needed to challenge for a Big East title no. Maybe JC can be that starter in years 3 and 4 but he is the ideal 6th man on a loaded team. He may start next season but by year 3 I hope that he would be challenged for starter minutes by a highly rated 4 star impact player. Same can be said about Marcellus who is very effective as a 6th or 7th man until he improves his shooting touch.[/quote]
I think you’re off on Champ. His shooting will improve, and he’s got the instincts to be a very solid 4 year guy. He’ll be all big East for 2 season if continues on his trajectory. Both him and his twin are very good players. I’m pleasantly surprised right now. Just like the fact he lets the game come to him. And his aggressiveness is picking up. And he’s a plus rebounder at 6’7 as a frosh. He’s a lock in the starting lineup, esp this year.
No one has evidence that Mike A is gonna work out here. But there is evidence at his past coaching jobs that he’s had success.
My problem with some fans, not even of St. John’s, but of a lot of my teams, is a lot of people feel like they need assurance that their team will become a winner. That’s not how sports works 99% of the time.
As Logen said, go watch the Globetrotters or sports movies where everything is scripted if you want assurance of victory.
But in real sports, it is about rooting for your team, believing in them, sticking with them through thick and thin, even when it’s a lot of thin.
As for Mike A, a lot of us believe in him because he hasn’t given us any reason not to. If you are a person who was watched this year and already decided Mike A cant turn the program around, that’s on you. If you ask me I’d say that’s premature as hell; but hey everyone can think what they want. No ones forcing anyone to stick around and keep rooting for this team.
My problem with some fans, not even of St. John’s, but of a lot of my teams, is a lot of people feel like they need assurance that their team will become a winner. That’s not how sports works 99% of the time.
As Logen said, go watch the Globetrotters or sports movies where everything is scripted if you want assurance of victory.
But in real sports, it is about rooting for your team, believing in them, sticking with them through thick and thin, even when it’s a lot of thin.
As for Mike A, a lot of us believe in him because he hasn’t given us any reason not to. If you are a person who was watched this year and already decided Mike A cant turn the program around, that’s on you. If you ask me I’d say that’s premature as hell; but hey everyone can think what they want. No ones forcing anyone to stick around and keep rooting for this team.
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[quote="rawdognyc" post=378512]I swear I'm a bit of a pacifist.. However, there's one person on this board that for the last 8 years has tested my belief. I want to pass ma fist through my phone screen and strangle him...[/quote]
Hey, what did I do? :lol:
Hey, what did I do? :lol:
Thanks Jack Williams -
I too believe in coach Anderson -
I just created a topic “Coach Cooley v Coach Anderson”
I’ll take the latter and like what I’ve seen in mere 10 months on the job.
Do we want the coaches out there recruiting? check
Do we want the players to play hard? check
Do we want a motivated Head Coach? check
What’s not to like this far...
all the best
I too believe in coach Anderson -
I just created a topic “Coach Cooley v Coach Anderson”
I’ll take the latter and like what I’ve seen in mere 10 months on the job.
Do we want the coaches out there recruiting? check
Do we want the players to play hard? check
Do we want a motivated Head Coach? check
What’s not to like this far...
all the best
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JohnnyFever
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[quote="rawdognyc" post=378512]I swear I'm a bit of a pacifist.. However, there's one person on this board that for the last 8 years has tested my belief. I want to pass ma fist through my phone screen and strangle him...[/quote]
Paultzman? Leave him alone Rawdog he comes in peace!
I think the main thing jaded SJ fans like myself see is SHU, PC, G'Town, Creighton, Butler, Marquette, Xavier, etc. all figuring it out while we still can't seem to. Many of the programs have sustained coaching changes and things kept humming along. Many new players and things kept humming along. There is no accepted expectation of competing once every 4 year cycle for those programs. True, some of those programs were way better than us already, but not too long ago we were looking down at PC and SHU. It wasn't always only DePaul we were a better program than. We weren't always penciled in as a W by every other fanbase except DePaul. That's what stings the most...seeing programs we used to clearly be ahead of surpassing us and leaving us in the dust. There's that attitude of "if they can do it why can't we?". I'm rooting like hell for CMA to bring us back to at least respectability but you can't act like the frustration of SJ fans is unreasonable. It's more than reasonable. Let's hope brighter days are ahead.
Paultzman? Leave him alone Rawdog he comes in peace!
I think the main thing jaded SJ fans like myself see is SHU, PC, G'Town, Creighton, Butler, Marquette, Xavier, etc. all figuring it out while we still can't seem to. Many of the programs have sustained coaching changes and things kept humming along. Many new players and things kept humming along. There is no accepted expectation of competing once every 4 year cycle for those programs. True, some of those programs were way better than us already, but not too long ago we were looking down at PC and SHU. It wasn't always only DePaul we were a better program than. We weren't always penciled in as a W by every other fanbase except DePaul. That's what stings the most...seeing programs we used to clearly be ahead of surpassing us and leaving us in the dust. There's that attitude of "if they can do it why can't we?". I'm rooting like hell for CMA to bring us back to at least respectability but you can't act like the frustration of SJ fans is unreasonable. It's more than reasonable. Let's hope brighter days are ahead.
[quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=378510]https://twitter.com/CoachJimBoone/status/1231760339399794694?s=20[/quote]
JSJ, the same can be said of life in general. Thanks for sharing this. As far as Coach Anderson goes, I am reminded of a quote by Dr. Martin Luther King, "Faith is taking the first step without being able to see the whole staircase". I have Faith in Coach Anderson.
JSJ, the same can be said of life in general. Thanks for sharing this. As far as Coach Anderson goes, I am reminded of a quote by Dr. Martin Luther King, "Faith is taking the first step without being able to see the whole staircase". I have Faith in Coach Anderson.