Big East Tournament: SJU vs. Pitt Game Thread

I am going to say this and anyone can say whatever they wan't I dont care. But I for one am going to say thank you to these 6 players for the effort and pride they showed all season. I know some may say that it wasn't there every night and that this year was a failure, but I am going to say it anyway because it is deserved.

So to: Moe Harkless, D'Angelo Harrison, Dom Pointer, Amir Garrett, Phil Greene, God's Gift Achiuwa and yes Mike Dunlap
Thank You...better things will come you all deserve it. 
 

Indeed-Props to the entire staff and team for putting it all out there. Through very trying circumstances -even for a veteran team-let alone a team of 5 frosh and a JUCO-the team never quit. They should hold their heads high and be excited for next season. I know I'm excited for next season and thankful for the effort put out by our team. G-d bless!
 
Proud of the team and how they competed under very difficult circumstances. Cannot wait to see this group of 6 grow -- and that includes Mo, because I don't believe he is going anywhere just yet. Excited to watch this crew plus Branch and whoever else Lavin brings in next year. It will be, by far, the most talent we have coming into a new season in the past decade or so.
 
i really thought we would come out and play well to avenge the earlier loss to pit. and i figured pitt would overlook us for that reason. im dissapointed after this loss especially it being the last game of the year. i guess we wont get an n.i.t bid because you have to have a 500 record or better i believe? 
 
It's no secret we can't win with two scorers, hopefully with Branch and the new recruits we'll be able to put the ball in the basket. 
Thanks to the players and staff for an enjoyable year. Really looking forward to Lavin's return.
Once again, thank you.
 
 Try not being such homers on this site, this game was there for them to win, I don't think Pittsburgh played very well at all. But it is hard to win a high major DI game when you can't shoot from the 3-point line. They are out scored every game by 18 points from the 3-point line. Every body loves Harrison but he is wild with his shot selection, he forces a lot of shots. Pointer is a tremendous athlete but has to develop a mid-range to 3-point shot. I think he has the potential to be a Malik Sealy type player. Phil Greene is a terrible point guard and it will be a major upgrade when Branch becomes eligible. Besides not being a high DI talent, he is not very bright. At the end of the half with 39 seconds left you need to get one good shot and Dunlap put up one finger to get a good shot sot what shot do they get Greene spinning around taking a tough jumper that was not even close. It starts a fast break fro Pittsburgh. He can not take that shot in that situation. The ball has to go to Harrison or Harkless. GG Achiuwa is just horrendous, he should be playing at a school like Central Connecticut State, or a similar school. The guy is in great shape with some good shoulders and arms on him but the announcers are dead wrond when they said he is a good ahlete, he actually is not a very good athlete, his foot work is so bad that he messes himself up and does not know where he is. On the bright side he is a pretty good free throw shooter. I really like Amir Garrett but if Garrett is a good baseball player he should concentrate on it full time because it is very hard to make the majors in baseball and you need to really just concentrate on that sport. What can you say about Harkless, he has it all. Tremendous athlete, very good ball handler for his size and a nice passer. If he can improve his range forget about it. I would love to see him come back but very players would come back if they are considered a first round pick. Look at Iman Shumpert, he left early but was picked in the first round and is having a nice year. Could he have been picked higher? Who knows. The only thing SJU has going for them is this years draft may be loaded if guys like Perry Jones, Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger go pro as expected.
 
What can you expect from an (almost) all freshman team with litle/no size?
Not one player on our current roster played 1 minute of D-1 ball before this year
In almost every game, we were outmanned and outsized
Our kids played hard and gave it their best effort
They gained a lot of valuable experience this season
If all of them come back and if Lav brings in a "stellar" recruiting class (ie: good "bigs"), we'll be very good next year
Thanks to the coaching staff and players for laying the foundation for what I hope will be a great future 
Can't wait to see Coach Lav roaming the sidelines once again next season
 
All things considered, I think SJ over achieved this year. A 13 win season starting 5 freshmen and no head coach is commendable. We'll be back strong next season.
 
The announcers for this game were terrible.....they spent a lot of time talking about Harkless leaving. At the end of the game as Harkless was walking off the court they said looking at Harkless who may have played his last game for Johnnies......What boneheads. 
 

You are so right, not the same announcers but the Uconn freshmen center should stay and when Syracuse gets to play a game the announcers will claim that the Syracuse sophmore center should stay for another year!
 
 although frustrating at times, I enjoyed watching this core. They got tremendous experience, that will pay dividends.Hope and think Mo will stay 1 more year. Also hope Lavin gets the recruiting job done.
 
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 Try not being such homers on this site, this game was there for them to win, I don't think Pittsburgh played very well at all. But it is hard to win a high major DI game when you can't shoot from the 3-point line. They are out scored every game by 18 points from the 3-point line. Every body loves Harrison but he is wild with his shot selection, he forces a lot of shots. Pointer is a tremendous athlete but has to develop a mid-range to 3-point shot. I think he has the potential to be a Malik Sealy type player. Phil Greene is a terrible point guard and it will be a major upgrade when Branch becomes eligible. Besides not being a high DI talent, he is not very bright. At the end of the half with 39 seconds left you need to get one good shot and Dunlap put up one finger to get a good shot sot what shot do they get Greene spinning around taking a tough jumper that was not even close. It starts a fast break fro Pittsburgh. He can not take that shot in that situation. The ball has to go to Harrison or Harkless. GG Achiuwa is just horrendous, he should be playing at a school like Central Connecticut State, or a similar school. The guy is in great shape with some good shoulders and arms on him but the announcers are dead wrond when they said he is a good ahlete, he actually is not a very good athlete, his foot work is so bad that he messes himself up and does not know where he is. On the bright side he is a pretty good free throw shooter. I really like Amir Garrett but if Garrett is a good baseball player he should concentrate on it full time because it is very hard to make the majors in baseball and you need to really just concentrate on that sport. What can you say about Harkless, he has it all. Tremendous athlete, very good ball handler for his size and a nice passer. If he can improve his range forget about it. I would love to see him come back but very players would come back if they are considered a first round pick. Look at Iman Shumpert, he left early but was picked in the first round and is having a nice year. Could he have been picked higher? Who knows. The only thing SJU has going for them is this years draft may be loaded if guys like Perry Jones, Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger go pro as expected.
 

Where shall I dissect your post? First of all, the use of paragraphs are your best friend.... Secondly, are you sure we've been outscored by 18 points per game by the opposition from the 3-point line or was that just some jive you made up to strengthen your argument? I think it's the latter. We made 4.1 per game, while the opposition made 7.3 per outing. I'm not a mathematician, but that is only a 9-point differential.

Harrison has been wild on occasions, but have you ever thought the reason he may have been a bit wild (he has been in control on many occasions) because he's trying to make things happen. Youthfulness and lack of consistent scoring threats probably forced his hand a bit.

Pointer is a solid defender; a heckuva athlete; and anticipates fairly well. But, not only does he have to work on his outside shot.... He has to work on his handle. He's very limited when it comes to dribbling. Tom basically said it correctly.... He isn't coordinated. I think he's still a solid athlete, but he looks uncoordinated while attempting to dribble. Hopefully, he does become a Malik Sealy-type. But, I see more Willie Glass than I do Sealy.

Greene isn't a terrible point guard. He's not a good one, but not terrible either. He was also forced to play a ton of minutes at that position, whereas he's more suited to being a combo.

Garrett is supposedly a pretty decent baseball prospect. But, he also has shown he can play a bit of hoops, as well. So, why should he solely concentrate on baseball? Maybe, he could also have an opportunity to play professional basketball. He's only a freshmen and has a few more years on the hardwood to improve.

Finally, you're comparing Iman Shumpert leaving early versus to Harkless leaving early? In case, you don't remember or don't know (I'm leaning towards the latter again), Shumpert had already played three seasons collegiately before he made the jump to the NBA. So, there is a difference, 'ya know?  
 
 That's my point us guard, if you are going to talk trash, you better back it up in the BE. They were talking about winning it all, and they could not get one game under their belt.
 
 Went to the game. I thought the refs sucked. They let Pitt get away with alot and they called a bunch of fouls on us that would normally be no calls.

As far as Dixon is concerned, the guy should be teed-up for being Pitt's 6th man on the Court. I have never seen any coach actually standing on the court during play more than this asshole.
 
i really thought we would come out and play well to avenge the earlier loss to pit. and i figured pitt would overlook us for that reason. im dissapointed after this loss especially it being the last game of the year. i guess we wont get an n.i.t bid because you have to have a 500 record or better i believe? 
 

Went to game today...D-Lo and Greene had no lift today...looked very lethargic...In any case, great strides and tons of experience under trying circumstances...
 
Kids are spent.

I will say this about Pitt. How in the hell did they go 5-13 in the BE? I mean I know they lost Travon Woodall for part of the season and the Khem Birch thing happened but they are MUCH better then 5-13. Taylor, Robinson, Gibbs, Woodall, etc. Heck Ashton I believe was pre-season POY.

How in the hell did they start 0-7 in the BE with that group of kids?
 

That's right Pitt is much better than their record. Johnnie's blew it when the blew the game to Rutgers. Villanova was the better draw. Heck they were beating them by 10 late in the first game, certainly they would learn from that.. Pitt waxed this team not a week ago yet people were thinking they would avenge that. No way Pitt's seniors settled things.as the smart money knew. Johnnie's young brash team talked trash like Rex Ryan but was not able to back it up. That;s youth.
 
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