BET (GAME TIME) #7 / #9 Creighton, Thur., Mar. 12, Noon, FS-1 / 970 AM

[quote="JackofVirginia" post=381514][quote="SJU61982" post=381471]You know, it didn't seem all that strange watching it on TV. It looked like the crowd we've gotten during blizzard games.

Now, obviously, the world situation gives things a different feel, but it didn't feel much different then a blizzard day crowd.[/quote]


From what I saw on TV it looked as if Creighton had more fans at the game.[/quote]
well they are in town from Nebraska while our people can just stay home.
 
[quote="bamafan" post=381518][quote="JackofVirginia" post=381514][quote="SJU61982" post=381471]You know, it didn't seem all that strange watching it on TV. It looked like the crowd we've gotten during blizzard games.

Now, obviously, the world situation gives things a different feel, but it didn't feel much different then a blizzard day crowd.[/quote]


From what I saw on TV it looked as if Creighton had more fans at the game.[/quote]
well they are in town from Nebraska while our people can just stay home.[/quote]

Yeah, Butler, Creighton, and Xavier generally have good representation at the Big East Tournament. They don't draw for the regular season against us, but they come to the Big East. They probably plan a whole week-long vacation around it.
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=381516][quote="bamafan" post=381510][quote="Jack Williams" post=381484]If anyone should be blamed, it should be the NCAA for leaving the decisions up to the conferences just hours before they started their games at noon.

Chris Mullin pointed this out on FS1.

If the NCAA hasn’t canceled their tournament is it that egregious that the big east didn’t cancel theirs right away? I’m confused by the outrage[/quote]
Where are you seeing outrage? We are all just giving our opinions. What additional risks were avoided by canceling the game at halftime when everyone was already exposed to each other? They did it for optics because everyone else had cancelled and instead of thinking for themselves they let other conferences make the decision for them. Val Ackerman is quoted as saying the Presidents didn't know other conferences had cancelled so that proves they just followed like sheep instead of deciding for themselves. Cancelling at halftime is like a women telling a man to stop in the middle of coitus because she wants to remain a virgin.[/quote]

Yes I’m responding to a poster who is expressing outrage at the situation and suggesting the big east is incompetent. They absolutely did it for optics. I’m responding to the people who think that them playing the first half was this big deal that shows the conference is dumb. I don’t believe that at all[/quote]

If you are referring to me, I don't see where I have expressed outrage. I do think that the Big East looks incompetent. I don't think it was that big of a deal that they played the game, in fact I was all for it. However, you cannot play the game and then cancel it in the middle when there were absolutely no aggravating circumstances. If you can't see how that shows incompetence, I don't know what to tell you. When it's all said and done, it is just a game - so really not worth getting worked up about. I just don't see how anyone can credit a conference for making a decision that it says was in the interest of safety for its players and coaches, while it's actions were the exact opposite.
 
[quote="SJULawyered15" post=381522][quote="Jack Williams" post=381516][quote="bamafan" post=381510][quote="Jack Williams" post=381484]If anyone should be blamed, it should be the NCAA for leaving the decisions up to the conferences just hours before they started their games at noon.

Chris Mullin pointed this out on FS1.

If the NCAA hasn’t canceled their tournament is it that egregious that the big east didn’t cancel theirs right away? I’m confused by the outrage[/quote]
Where are you seeing outrage? We are all just giving our opinions. What additional risks were avoided by canceling the game at halftime when everyone was already exposed to each other? They did it for optics because everyone else had cancelled and instead of thinking for themselves they let other conferences make the decision for them. Val Ackerman is quoted as saying the Presidents didn't know other conferences had cancelled so that proves they just followed like sheep instead of deciding for themselves. Cancelling at halftime is like a women telling a man to stop in the middle of coitus because she wants to remain a virgin.[/quote]

Yes I’m responding to a poster who is expressing outrage at the situation and suggesting the big east is incompetent. They absolutely did it for optics. I’m responding to the people who think that them playing the first half was this big deal that shows the conference is dumb. I don’t believe that at all[/quote]

If you are referring to me, I don't see where I have expressed outrage. I do think that the Big East looks incompetent. I don't think it was that big of a deal that they played the game, in fact I was all for it. However, you cannot play the game and then cancel it in the middle when there were absolutely no aggravating circumstances. If you can't see how that shows incompetence, I don't know what to tell you. When it's all said and done, it is just a game - so really not worth getting worked up about. I just don't see how anyone can credit a conference for making a decision that it says was in the interest of safety for its players and coaches, while it's actions were the exact opposite.[/quote]

The big east made the right decision but didnt have the spine to stand up to that decision. Once they didnt have the ACC standing beside them, they crumbled.
 
As to canceling, the ACC tournament started at 12:30 and was still on after the start of our game. The ACC made a game time decision. I don't think the BE should have pulled the plug midway in first half as they had to get the info and get agreement to cancel from 10 schools but hey made the decision within a short period of time

MEAC has one cancelation already and the other game is scheduled for 6PM--you can bet any money you may have left on that game being cancelled.

To get to our 1/2 game today--our young men gave as always great effort and deserved to be ahead at half time. Really proud of CMA and all the hard work he and the coaches and players have put in. Great to end on a "win"

Yesterday was a great day as Vincentians 2--Jesuits-0. Loved the replay, especially last 6+ minutes was a lot easier watching today than last night.

Lastly, Fox after game was called and folks leaving had a shot of our Mascot sitting in the seats by himself (the 100's behind the basket); that really captured the essence of college BB at this time.
 
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Well, at least St John's, Georgetown, Xavier, and DePaul got to play one tournament game in front of a crowd.

The kids on the other higher ranked teams never got to compete in this year's BE tournament.

The tournament is the reward for the hundreds of hours of practice throughout the year. I feel bad that this seasons athletes didn't get to experience it.
 
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If the Big East let the game continue and we ended up beating Creighton, it might have looked very awkward for the conference if -- like other conferences -- it presented the championship trophy to the regular-season winner ... but in this case, immediately following a loss to the 9th-seeded team.
 
The season ends wth a win and that is a very rare occurance in the history of SJU basketball The NtT championships would be exceptions.
 
[quote="Enright" post=381534]The season ends wth a win and that is a very rare occurance in the history of SJU basketball The NtT championships would be exceptions.[/quote]

A win and a half. On some level, it's a relief.

I'll give kudos to Coach Anderson. I don't see anyone since Looie getting more than eight wins from this team.
 
[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=381529]Well, at least St John's, Georgetown, Xavier, and DePaul got to play one tournament game in front of a crowd.

The kids on the other higher ranked teams never got to compete in this year's BE tournament.

The tournament is the reward for the hundreds of hours of practice throughout the year. I feel bad that this seasons athletes didn't get to experience it.[/quote]

At this point, I think it's safe to say that March Madness will be the next to be cancelled.

You have to feel for the seniors....the ones who dedicated the last 4 years of their life for the game. I hate to see them go out like this.

Here's what I would like to see the NCAA do (if they truly care about their student athlete's):
- Every player who is currently in their last year of eligibility will be granted an extra year of eligibility.
- If they return, those players will not be permitted to transfer, and must play for their current school.
- The players will be eligible for scholarship if their school has one available.

Thoughts?
 
[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=381529]Well, at least St John's, Georgetown, Xavier, and DePaul got to play one tournament game in front of a crowd.

The kids on the other higher ranked teams never got to compete in this year's BE tournament.

The tournament is the reward for the hundreds of hours of practice throughout the year. I feel bad that this seasons athletes didn't get to experience it.[/quote]

And according to the press release, none of the stats from today’s game will count towards lifetime stats. I really feel bad for the kids.
 
Look, I don't think anyone looks good or bad. This is a rapidly evolving situation, and everyone under the circumstances was trying to make the right decision for going forward in a revenue producing sport. Once an NBA player diagnosed was the catalyst for the NBA to suspend play, and the NHL suspended their season, simply playing in near empty arenas didn't seem good enough. As soon as major conferences started canceling their post season tourney, other had to follow suit. Once that happened, the NCAA had to change course from playing in empty arenas to cancelling the whole thing.

This is unchartered territory. Not since 9/11 have we had such a disruption to daily life, and this virus is on a global scale, not isolated devastating attacks. Yes, the number of deaths has been limited, but it is still unknown what the full impact of a widespread infection would have on our health system's ability to treat it.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=381502][quote="SJU61982" post=381471]You know, it didn't seem all that strange watching it on TV. It looked like the crowd we've gotten during blizzard games.

Now, obviously, the world situation gives things a different feel, but it didn't feel much different then a blizzard day crowd.[/quote]

It was definitely loud enough on TV. I was expecting stretches of eerie silence.[/quote]

There was cluster of SJU fans behind our bench. Same with Creighton fans behind their bench. Sitting in the middle of our fan base, it seemed loud as hell most of the time. I’m glad to hear it sounded the same on TV, not that it matters much now. Great to be sitting with legends Panther and Beast of the East, amongst a number of other wonderful SJU fans.

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[quote="Monte" post=381548][quote="L J S A" post=381502][quote="SJU61982" post=381471]You know, it didn't seem all that strange watching it on TV. It looked like the crowd we've gotten during blizzard games.

Now, obviously, the world situation gives things a different feel, but it didn't feel much different then a blizzard day crowd.[/quote]

It was definitely loud enough on TV. I was expecting stretches of eerie silence.[/quote]

There was cluster of SJU fans behind our bench. Same with Creighton fans behind their bench. Sitting in the middle of our fan base, it seemed loud as hell most of the time. I’m glad to hear it sounded the same on TV, not that it matters much now. Great to be sitting with legends Panther and Beast of the East, amongst a number of other wonderful SJU fans.

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As weird as it must seem being a fan watching form home, it was surreal being there. Really great to be there with Monte and Panther - both are wonderful guys. You realized in an instant, the team and game you were screaming for and about the entire first half was not coming out for the second half.

We are so emotionally invested in our team - so much more than the pro teams we root for. In an instant you realize that our rooting interest collided with the reality of life, and just like that reality of a virus won vs a game, and the activity of adults cheering for young men playing a game hardly matters. To me that's probably the greatest loss - the realization that in the grand scheme of things, this doesn't matter a heck of a lot. That notion will take a while to recover from.
 
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Seeing the announcement during halftime that the game was not being played to conclusion has to be one of the oddest things I have ever seen.

The league couldn't have decided to cancel the rest of the tournament before the game began? Once a decision was made to let the kids play a half of the game, why not just let them finish it? Smh.............
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=381563]Seeing the announcement during halftime that the game was not being played to conclusion has to be one of the oddest things I have ever seen.

The league couldn't have decided to cancel the rest of the tournament before the game began? Once a decision was made to let the kids play a half of the game, why not just let them finish it? Smh.............[/quote]

Obviously when the game started, the intention was to play the game and the entire day and tournament to conclusion. When considering the up to the minute events, it became impossible to consider completing today's schedule, and that made the result meaningless. It would not be right to let teams play what resulted in an exhibition game with no intention of completing the tournament. It makes sense even if the most bizarre thing I've seen.
 
[quote="Tonyinfairfield " post=381541]
And according to the press release, none of the stats from today’s game will count towards lifetime stats. I really feel bad for the kids.[/quote]

LJ was on his way to becoming SJU's alltime single season leader in made three pointers. Counting his three treys he made in the first half, he was only one behind D'Angelo Harrison.

Plus you gotta feel for the kid on Creighton who was no taller than the little ones that get halftime run on MSG court. He lit us up for 8 points in 7 minutes.
 
Man, I can't believe what happened over the past day. Still trying to process.

Really tough to think what could've been (as are at least 70-80 other teams), but we won big yesterday and also had a great half today. It's important that those games happened because they helped solidify this year as a successful one. Imagine if the cancellations happened a week earlier and we didn't beat Marquette, Georgetown, or half beat Creighton. The board should be optimistic for the next several months! This was the absolute best possible ending to the season given what we were capable of controlling.
 
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