BET Game 1- Providence -Thursday, 2:30pm Fox Sports 1

How far back must you go to recall a SJU big man who could receive a pass in the paint and turn and make a basket?
 
@jeffborzello: This definitely promotes confidence. RT @NYPost_Brazille: Steve Lavin: "I'm a poor conference tournament coach."

Even if tongue in cheek, better not to say it & promote press frenzy Imo.

Press Frenzy? The program is on it's way to insignificance.

Fans like you are the problem. Talk about all or nothing....
They played like crap today. They played scared. They forgot their identity and played like it was 2013-2014--jumpers left and right, forced shots, and poor teamwork. I'd rather that happen today instead of next week. No excuses...back to the drawing board and everyone has to buy in and get back to what makes this team go. If not, it will be a quick exit.

At the very least we won't be going into next week overconfident. But insignificant? No, this is our third trip to the dance in 15 freaking years. This season is a step back in the right direction...it will be a long and grueling trip and turncoat fans like you only make it harder.
 
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why do we get our hopes up every year in the BE tourney we crap the bed and go home like losers.. this is insane that we play a 1st half like this against a team we beat already and we go out and drop a load on our court now we come out and yo yo between 8 and 17 and lose then we say oh well we are in big dance NO we must do better then this it is a joke already

I agree. The tournament is on our own court for god sakes. Time for us to start winning some games

Not a home court advantage. There are more Providence fans here than St. John's.

I don't think so. Not from what I saw. They just had more of a reason to be loud.

Trust me, St. John's didn't have that many fans in the building today. Especially in the lower sections.
 
@jeffborzello: This definitely promotes confidence. RT @NYPost_Brazille: Steve Lavin: "I'm a poor conference tournament coach."

Even if tongue in cheek, better not to say it & promote press frenzy Imo.

Press Frenzy? The program is on it's way to insignificance.

Fans like you are the problem. Talk about all or nothing....
They played like crap today. They played scared. They forgot their identity and played like it was 2013-2014--jumpers left and right, forced shots, and poor teamwork. I'd rather that happen today instead of next week. No excuses...back to the drawing board and everyone has to buy in and get back to what makes this team go. If not, it will be a quick exit.

At the very least we won't be going into next week overconfident. But insignificant? No, this is our third trip to the dance in 15 freaking years. This season is a step back in the right direction...it will be a long and grueling trip and turncoat fans like you only make it harder.

Team shouldn't have been overconfident going into this game. They just lost by 37 to Villanova.

Too bad I wasted my train ride reading articles about how the seniors had a chip on their shoulders about being left out on awards. Maybe there was a reason they didn't get them after all.
 
@jeffborzello: This definitely promotes confidence. RT @NYPost_Brazille: Steve Lavin: "I'm a poor conference tournament coach."

Even if tongue in cheek, better not to say it & promote press frenzy Imo.

Press Frenzy? The program is on it's way to insignificance.

Fans like you are the problem. Talk about all or nothing....
They played like crap today. They played scared. They forgot their identity and played like it was 2013-2014--jumpers left and right, forced shots, and poor teamwork. I'd rather that happen today instead of next week. No excuses...back to the drawing board and everyone has to buy in and get back to what makes this team go. If not, it will be a quick exit.

At the very least we won't be going into next week overconfident. But insignificant? No, this is our third trip to the dance in 15 freaking years. This season is a step back in the right direction...it will be a long and grueling trip and turncoat fans like you only make it harder.

Team shouldn't have been overconfident going into this game. They just lost by 37 to Villanova.

Too bad I wasted my train ride reading articles about how the seniors had a chip on their shoulders about being left out on awards. Maybe there was a reason they didn't get them after all.

I didn't say they were overconfident this game. They played scared...once Providence popped them in the mouth they panicked and went away from what has made them successful this season.
Seniors usually seem to respond in one of two ways when facing the end of a career. I hope this experience helps things go the other way next week, after ending their Big East careers in horrible fashion.
 
Terrible game is an understatement...But the posts by some on this board are more embarrasing than today's result...
 
I've been going back and forth all season on whether Lavin should be renewed. Now I'm sure after reading Braziller and other's tweets and watching all of the games. He's completely inept in games. The team is terrible in the half court. There is no half court game. Providence showed that if you pressure the ball outside we can't get a good shot off.

I'm actually happy we lost early as long as it doesn't stop us from getting into the NCAA tournament. This team needs a long rest to recover from injuries and a lot of practice.
 
"Horrible fashion" indeed & a lost opportunity to improve seeding. Once I did not see our hottest player, Jordan, starting, I got a bad feeling. Who knows why, but avoidable crap always seems to pop up at inopportune times.
 
Please stop with the crowd excuses. I couldn't ditch work today but I bought two tickets for tomorrow night expecting to see the Redmen playing. Well, I'll be sitting there watching Nova and the Friars. How sad. Thanks to our disappearing act.
 
Still at MSG watching the tourney. Thinking don't get too high on the wins or too low on the loses. We are going to the tourney. Let's get excited . Let's face it we could be facing St Francis in the NIT
 
I hear you. But wouldn't it be nice if we showed up in a big spot? It seems like years. Now we are probably a 10 seed. Play like that and it will be a quick trip.
 
Bad loss. It is what it is.

We are still dancing for the first time in 4 years and i am excited (of course i would be a lot more pumped if we won today)

Lets see what we do in NCAA before really freaking out
 
Still at MSG watching the tourney. Thinking don't get too high on the wins or too low on the loses. We are going to the tourney. Let's get excited . Let's face it we could be facing St Francis in the NIT

Wise.
 
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How bad did our seniors shoot in their Big East swan song?  After starting the game only making 3 of 17 shots they went on to make only 8 more shots the entire game and finished their careers shooting an abysmal 11 for 39 (28%).  I have seen wheelchair players with better shooting form and playing blindfolded may have yielded the same results. 
Other than getting a week off to recover both mentally and physically there is nothing positive to take away from this game. Except for sophomore Rysheed Jordan, every player disappointed. 
As for individual disappointments D'Angelo Harrison gets my vote for disappointing POY.  Never in all my years of following redmen basketball has such a prolific scorer padded his record against inferior teams in 4 years of Novembers and Decembers while fading in conference play as if every opposing team was Georgetown. His Big East tourney and post season stats reek of a one dimensional player that miraculously scored 2,000 points.
Phil Greene was Phil Greene so a player that should have been no better than a 6th man played starters minutes on a flawed team without another guard on the bench capable of pushing him in practices to challenge him for  minutes.  As was evident today, as in most games, he plays so far off his player that he rarely commits fouls and readily gives up 3 pointers in the process.
For some inexplicable reason, Jamal Branch, who was absent due to groin issues got the start over Jordan thereby convincing Rysheed to get the fck out of Dodge at season's end.
Chris Obekpa seemed hobbled contrary to what the wizard stated before the game that he was game ready.  With Obekpa his mental state in any game is his biggest handicap.
I feel for Dom Pointer who got called for his 4th by 3 blind refs who, after reviewing the call, confirmed that blindness was not only suffered by St. John's shooters but by 3 blind men in zebra shirts.
As for the wizard and his agent, welcome back to "take what we offer or take a hike".  Your momentum has disappeared faster than your tie collection.  My wife, a very professional working woman, speculated that when Lavin stopped wearing ties it confirmed his lackadaisical attitude and that could have an affect on the players. Well today the players played like they didn't give a fck.
The only way for the players to redeem themselves would be to win a first round NCAA game. As for Steve Lavin, signing at least 6 or 7 serviceable players with at least 2 more front court players may save his job.  Except for Rysheed Jordan every player has proved that they are replaceable so I am not as worried as others about the composition of our team 2 years from now.
 
That call on Dom for the fourth foul was disgusting. As a ref, you're main job is to let the kids decide the game. Giving Dom his fourth with 13 minutes left on a phantom call took away our chance to win. Just swallow the damn whistle.

I don't believe in the quote, 'let the kids decide the game'. As a ref, your main job is to be the ref, and call fouls when you see them. If a game is tied, and a player drives to the hoop with 3 seconds to go, and is actually fouled, it is the refs job to call that foul. You could say, let the players decide the outcome. However, if a kid does foul at the end of the game, he is deciding the outcome of that game. He decided/chose to foul...and therefore, is deciding the outcome of the game.
 
Judging by the way the team looked today, I wonder if there was something that went on before the game. What happened to DLO's eye? Balamou? Dom did not look right in warm ups.
Let's hope they have a short memory and can file this game in the circular file.
 
Judging by the way the team looked today, I wonder if there was something that went on before the game. What happened to DLO's eye? Balamou? Dom did not look right in warm ups.
Let's hope they have a short memory and can file this game in the circular file.

Knight, how many times in this thread are you going to ask this?
 
First off, I'm not buying that Jamal who was coming off a groin injury was playing better than Sheed in practice. Sheed just came off a great game at Nova. That just doesn't add up.

And both D'Lo and Balamou have eye injuries? Come on.

That being said, Tyler Harris has to be 6'8, 220 soaking wet and he has bullied us two years in a row on the same court. It's embarrassing.

D'Lo didn't lead today. Chucking shots isn't leading.

How can a group of Seniors be on the cusp of something they never achieved and lay an egg after all that talk? Last year we gave them a pass because it was the NIT.

And I'm not going to even touch Lavin's post game comments right now.

I just hope his comments find their way to the President.

Does rysheed always tape his wrist because it was wrapped before it was fell? Maybe it was already sore which is why it hurt so much.
 
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