Bad news- Obekpa leaving SJU
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Northern Storm
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After reading all the posts in this topic, it sounds like the title sound be changed to "Good News- Obekpa is leaving SJU!".
Following St. John's BB is like watching "Nashville". The Ups and Downs keep coming! They never end.
While I think most of us would have preferred to keep RJ and Obekpa for another year, there would always be drama, game in and game out.
Obekpa lost me with the weed situation at the end of the season. It told me that he lacked sense and a true commitment to both the team, and more importantly, himself. Self destruction is never a good trait to have.
Onward to the next saga of "Live as a St. John's BB Fan."
Following St. John's BB is like watching "Nashville". The Ups and Downs keep coming! They never end.
While I think most of us would have preferred to keep RJ and Obekpa for another year, there would always be drama, game in and game out.
Obekpa lost me with the weed situation at the end of the season. It told me that he lacked sense and a true commitment to both the team, and more importantly, himself. Self destruction is never a good trait to have.
Onward to the next saga of "Live as a St. John's BB Fan."
stjohnschris
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Could be a lot of different reasons, maybe he saw his role and PT dwindling (perhaps Papa is coming?), maybe RJ leaving was a factor, maybe he just didn't fit into coach Mullin's system. If he in fact is leaving, I don't think it takes anything away from our win column next season. CO has a lot of growing up to do, he could have used another year in college for many reasons.
We are going to see a different brand a caliber of basketball next season. No matter what our W-L is, I'm looking forward to it.
We are going to see a different brand a caliber of basketball next season. No matter what our W-L is, I'm looking forward to it.
boo haarvey
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Sorry, but saying that it won't affect our win column is a pipe dream. Optimism is great, but I don't understand those posters who say "addition by subtraction" every time we lose an impact player.
I agree that losing Obekpa & Jordan clearly hurts our chances for a decent next season. Mussini (if he comes) is not in Jordan's class & "weeding" Chris out leaves gaping hole on the interior. That said, I think effecting positive cultural change has its initial bumps, but am extremely confident this hard working, goal directed staff will get us on track for sustainable, high quality success.
Don't think we will get Papagiannis & won't be a bubble team IMO. We'll see. Btw, I will feel a little better when I see Sima & LoVett eligible. Not suggesting they won't make it, but anxiously awaiting confirmation. With them in hand & no big surprises to help address interior void, I still am prepared for a challenging year. To me that is obviously not preferable, but if it is a price to pay to change the culture here I am ok. Just me.
Spot on. All this blind optimism, do no wrong attitude is going to lead to some real bitching and crying when we have a bad season and mediocre ones to follow until we finally reach our peak, whenever that will be. Our coach hasn't coached a game in his life at the college level and many on here think we are instantly a top program now.
When Sheed left our tourney chances went from 30% to 2% IMO. This departure serves no impact other than to cleanse this program of the bad characters from Steve's regime and start fresh. Nobody should confuse that positive impact with us having a good year on the court in 15-16. That's unlikely.
This isn't addition by subtraction, IMO. I think emotion takes over some folks on here. I'm cautiously-optimistic. Basically, that is the approach I always take 'til sustained success. But for the one's who are basically guaranteeing (speaking in absolute) we're gonna be straight in the long run.... Hold up and wait to see what transpires. If we can land some of these '16 and '17 kids going forward, then we'll probably be alright in the long run. It might make it tougher, if we lose momentum. We could certainly gain some momentum by having a decent season. I'm not sure that decent season is possible now. Time will tell, though.
Frankly, I thought we'd be fine even after Jordan left, per adding LoVett, Johnson, and the possibility of landing Mussini. The possible loss of Obekpa will hurt. It takes away a rebounder and shotblocker. His absence will be troublesome for us.
Ninja
The thought of those 2 not qualifying send shivers down my back. If Sima doesn't qualify who will be next years Center? And if he does he's young and who will back him up? And if you really want to play Devils advocate, Lovett doesn't qualify and Missini doesn't pop for us. Despite this short term drama, agree w Paultz, thinking the long term will be good. But, I think it's going to be harder for Mullin to recruit if we are the doormat of the BE.
Chris was not a very good man defender nor a very good rebounder for his size. He was mostly about blocking shots and that often left him out of position for rebounds, and in the half court when he rotated to block a shot the man he left was often open for easy shots or offensive rebounds. His offensive game was lacking and even though his fee throw percentage improved, as Mike would say, opposing teams should have employed the hack-a-Chris defense more often.
So if he's here I'm OK with it and if he's toast I'm OK with it.
So if he's here I'm OK with it and if he's toast I'm OK with it.
