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Had us 21 in his final poll last season. Useless,
and NET had us at 32 and we didn't make it either. That's not the point though.

Kenpom is not awful or useless. Look at Kenpom vs NET for 2024 and its generally pretty close..some anomalies for sure.

As you admitted, you don't watch other teams except St. John's so your frame of reference may be skewed as the eye test can confirm both KenPom and NET are decent indicators of competitiveness.
 
We may need to reconsider Hurley and UConn’s long term ceiling if this continues.

It’s possible that they just caught lightning in a bottle with a 7’3 center that had a profound impact on both sides of the ball and just a fantastic teammate and college basketball player in Newton.

Look at UConn immediately before and after that duo. Top 25’ish with loads of NBA players. The team before Clingan and Newton had 4 NBA players. This team has at least 3…with Karaban being a nearly perfect stretch-four.

Nothing wrong with “only” being a top caliber team — and UConn could easily go on a run here — but I did think Hurley was destined for several more titles coming into this season and I now confidence in that has faltered.

Clingan only played 13 minutes a game for that first championship team, it's not all about him. But Newton and Hawkins or Spencer are head and shoulders above any pair of guards they can throw out there this year.
 
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