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Most important non-conference Big East games remaining
Marquette:
Dec 4: @ #5 Iowa St
Dec 7: vs. #15 Wisconsin
Dec 14: @ Dayton (soon to be ranked)

Creighton:
Nov 30: vs. Notre Dame
Dec 4: vs. #1 Kansas
Dec 7: vs. UNLV
Dec 14: @ #9 Alabama

UConn:
Dec 4: vs. #17 Baylor
Dec 8: @ Texas
Dec 14: vs. #3 Gonzaga

St. John's:
Dec 7: vs. Kansas State

Xavier:
Dec 5: @ TCU
Dec 14: @ #16 Cincy

DePaul:
Dec 4: @ Texas Tech
Dec 14: vs. Wichita St
Dec 21: @ Northwestern

Villanova:
Dec 3: vs. #16 Cincy

Providence:
Dec 3: vs. BYU

Georgetown:
Dec 6: @ West Virginia
Dec 14: @ Syracuse

Butler:
Nov 28: vs. Northwestern
Dec 7: @ #6 Houston
Dec 14: vs. #15 Wisconsin

Seton Hall:
Dec 8: vs. Oklahoma St
Dec 14: @ Rutgers

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After this exercise, we can say the Big East still has time to prove itself. But time is running out. Some seasons may go off the rails before the new year...

Also, can say, our schedule has to be better in the future. I always thought we should've had one more major conference game. It hurts that our only last remaining one is Kansas State...
 
We may need to reconsider Hurley and UConn’s long term ceiling if this continues.

It’s possible that they just caught lightning in a bottle with a 7’3 center that had a profound impact on both sides of the ball and just a fantastic teammate and college basketball player in Newton.

Look at UConn immediately before and after that duo. Top 25’ish with loads of NBA players. The team before Clingan and Newton had 4 NBA players. This team has at least 3…with Karaban being a nearly perfect stretch-four.

Nothing wrong with “only” being a top caliber team — and UConn could easily go on a run here — but I did think Hurley was destined for several more titles coming into this season and I now confidence in that has faltered.
 
dk423 said:
Most important non-conference Big East games remaining
Marquette:
Dec 4: @ #5 Iowa St
Dec 7: vs. #15 Wisconsin
Dec 14: @ Dayton (soon to be ranked)

Creighton:
Nov 30: vs. Notre Dame
Dec 4: vs. #1 Kansas
Dec 7: vs. UNLV
Dec 14: @ #9 Alabama

UConn:
Dec 4: vs. #17 Baylor
Dec 8: @ Texas
Dec 14: vs. #3 Gonzaga

St. John's:
Dec 7: vs. Kansas State

Xavier:
Dec 5: @ TCU
Dec 14: @ #16 Cincy

DePaul:
Dec 4: @ Texas Tech
Dec 14: vs. Wichita St
Dec 21: @ Northwestern

Villanova:
Dec 3: vs. #16 Cincy

Providence:
Dec 3: vs. BYU

Georgetown:
Dec 6: @ West Virginia
Dec 14: @ Syracuse

Butler:
Nov 28: vs. Northwestern
Dec 7: @ #6 Houston
Dec 14: vs. #15 Wisconsin

Seton Hall:
Dec 8: vs. Oklahoma St
Dec 14: @ Rutgers

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After this exercise, we can say the Big East still has time to prove itself. But time is running out. Some seasons may go off the rails before the new year...

Also, can say, our schedule has to be better in the future. I always thought we should've had one more major conference game. It hurts that our only last remaining one is Kansas State...
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Wow the top of the Big East was not shy about scheduling this year. And Georgetown still gonna Georgetown.
 
SLYFOXX1968 said:
Harvard could be a bellwether game . We might be in the midst of a BE descent into MAAC status .
Hope not but , this season looking like a fall from the perch . Not only us but , our brethren schools except Marquette , not faring well

The money available to State Schools to use on NIL is far more than any BE School can afford , even with the Repole $$$ we are getting .

Also too , with Players being Free Agents as they are to play for a year or 2 , College Coaches have to deal with the dynamic of Team Chemistry
with the Newcomers.
It’s a difficult transition for Veteran Coaches to deal with and some are choosing not to .t
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Total overreaction. The Big East has been an elite conference every year since its realignment and its member has won the last two national championships.
 
Boo Harvey said:
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Because he lost a few games in Hawaii in November? Man this site is prone to melodrama
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He turned down the opportunity to coach the greatest basketball franchise in the world, make more money, and work less with no recruiting. That horrid fanbase now has ungodly expectations. Combine that with his clear mental instability during games and one has to wonder if he made the right call. Maybe he goes on a Bill Self/Coach K type run. Maybe not. Time will tell...
 
Marillac2 said:
We may need to reconsider Hurley and UConn’s long term ceiling if this continues.

It’s possible that they just caught lightning in a bottle with a 7’3 center that had a profound impact on both sides of the ball and just a fantastic teammate and college basketball player in Newton.

Look at UConn immediately before and after that duo. Top 25’ish with loads of NBA players. The team before Clingan and Newton had 4 NBA players. This team has at least 3…with Karaban being a nearly perfect stretch-four.

Nothing wrong with “only” being a top caliber team — and UConn could easily go on a run here — but I did think Hurley was destined for several more titles coming into this season and I now confidence in that has faltered.
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My view of this from the beginning has been that for the last 2 seasons U Conn had

(a) overwhelming talent at the 5 that compelled teams to overcommit resources to dealing with that and
(b) too much talent around it to be dealt with - in addition to good coaching.

There were just very few teams that could match up with that; SJU played them as well as anyone by mostly singling inside, trying to run their bigs, and getting them in some foul trouble after which they could focus on the perimeter threats.

This year with Sanogo and Clingan gone and a pair of freshmen in the lineup along with Diarra who nobody will confuse with Newton or Spencer or Castle I didn't see any way they would be THAT team again. You can play them straight up and have an ADVANTAGE inside and their other players are not nearly at the level of what they lost.

Still a good team, maybe even still a top 10 team. But light years away from what they were unless the additions surprise which has not happened yet. McNeely is good but not nearly enough to make up for what they lost.

They may well prove me wrong yet but that was my theory going in and so far it's holding up.
 
Section3 said:
Maybe…but I think we match up well with them…they aren't deep or big and we are as athletic as they are…if we guard the the 3, I see us beating them
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Hope so. They do everything well and Shaka can coach. Richmond is anything but athletic and I've never found that term to be applicable in basketball, e.g. last year's yukon team. I'm a HUGE soccer fan. Those guys are athletes. Creighton and Xavier are brutal matchups at the center position, certainly not our strong spot. Let's hope for the best. Team's due for some good games.
 
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