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Part of me is surprised it’s that high lol. Playing in LI
I honestly think Hofstra is better
I’ll take Cruz Davis +4.5 over Wusu
So do I.
Apologies if it’s sarcasm, but yes.
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It's not. In very limited exposure I liked what I saw from him. If scholarships were expanded this year wonder if he might have stuck around. But happy to see him do well at Hofstra.
Going to that DH at Nassau Coliseum guess I’ll have to follow game thread on here to see what’s happening in our game with Wagner. Go easy on the Luis bashing please fellows.
I know BE is not off to a great start and because of last seasons NCAA field fans were already a bit nervous.
2 years ago, BE sent 5 teams to the dance. Here are the OOC losses by BE teams that season. 38 total losses, but only 6 of them were real bad losses. Point I'm trying to make is the BE hasn't killed their conference strength yet, but they need to put a halt to the bad losses.
2022 – 2023 5 BE teams made tourney
2 years ago, BE sent 5 teams to the dance. Here are the OOC losses by BE teams that season. 38 total losses, but only 6 of them were real bad losses. Point I'm trying to make is the BE hasn't killed their conference strength yet, but they need to put a halt to the bad losses.
2022 – 2023 5 BE teams made tourney
- Marquette - OOC 3 losses (Purdue, Miss State, Wisconsin)
- Depaul – OOC 5 losses (Santa Clara, Ok St, Texas AM, Duquesne, Northwestern)
- Providence – OOC 3 Losses (Miami, St louis, TCU)
- Xavier – OOC 3 Losses (Duke, Gonzaga, Indiana)
- Creighton – OOC 5 losses (Arizona, Texas, Nebraska, BYU, Arizona St.)
- Gtown – OOC 6 losses (Northwestern, Loyola Mary, American, Texas Tech, South Carolina, Cuse)
- SJU – OOC 1 Loss (Iowa State)
- Uconn – OOC 0 Losses
- Butler – OOC 3 losses (penn state, Tenn, NC state)
- Nova – OOC 5 Losses (Temple, mich St, iowa state, Portland, Oregon)
- SH – OOC 4 Losses (Iowa, Oklahoma, Siena, Kansas)
Oh, I can think of at least a couple: yukon and cuse.
Yes, but if you look at the BE standings that year, none of the teams in bold made it to the tournament & all the teams that did make it to the tournament had at least a 13-7 record. To begin the year, I think we may have thought 13-7 would've been a great success and would easily clear us. Now, it may have to be the floor.
2022-23 Men's Big East Conference Season Summary | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
2022-23 Men's Big East Conference Season Summary
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Outside of the clear BE top five (UConn, Marq, Xavier, Creighton and us), how many of the other teams present an okay loss? Providence?
Seton Hall, Nova and Georgetown may be awful. DePaul may be just bad. Butler already had an awful loss.
I agree. I also don’t think UCONN fans are worried. At some point it’s time to do enough during the season so that selection Sunday is about where you play in March, not if you play. This year seems like an excellent time for that to begin.
The teams in bold were bad losses. What do you mean?Yes, but if you look at the BE standings that year, none of the teams in bold made it to the tournament & all the teams that did make it to the tournament had at least a 13-7 record. To begin the year, I think we may have thought 13-7 would've been a great success and would easily clear us. Now, it may have to be the floor.
2022-23 Men's Big East Conference Season Summary | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
2022-23 Men's Big East Conference Season Summary
Outside of the clear BE top five (UConn, Marq, Xavier, Creighton and us), how many of the other teams present an okay loss? Providence?
Seton Hall, Nova and Georgetown may be awful. DePaul may be just bad. Butler already had an awful loss.
I wasn’t expecting Butler, hall, Gtown, nova to make the tourney this year either.
Sorry I meant the teams that had losses in bold didn't make the tournament. Meaning, they didn't really recover from those losses later in the year.
Another metric would be looking at KenPom that year. For the non-NCAA teams, their rankings were:
Villanova: 51 (not bad)
Seton Hall: 58 (not bad)
St. John's: 82 (meh)
Butler: 119 (bad)
DePaul: 135 (bad)
Georgetown: 219 (very bad)
The thing I'm worried about is, I'm not particularly confident that any of the non-top 5 teams I pointed out can still be a top 60 team by the end of the year. Maybe Providence if Hopkins makes an impact right away. Ironically, I think this puts more pressure on us to beat these bad teams than before the season started.
All true. But BE still has a chance to get those solid wins OOC that the teams in 22-23 failed to get. Even though not many bad losses, a lot of failed chances at quality wins that year (other than UConn wagon).
Don't worry... theyll be primed and ready just in time for host us at the AMP lol
This is the key point to me. Seton Hall winning 13 Big East games last year and missing the tournament was a wake up call. If several BE teams may be taking a step down compared to last year, we have to show ourselves to be a tournament team in these next couple of weeks.
Looking at last years Seton Hall team, they won 13 games in conference, but lost every key non conference game (lost to USC, Baylor, Iowa)
We can't bank on having a good BE season and it getting us into the field. These games against New Mexico, Baylor, Tennesee/UVA, Georgia and KState are MASSIVE. I'm not saying 5-0 is needed. But 3-2 may be the floor of what we need in these 5 games. 2-3 could be acceptable depending on who the 2 wins are against.
Agree. We need to be no worse than 9-2 OOC with no bad losses if we don't want to put huge pressure on the Big East schedule. To me losing to two of Baylor, Tennessee, Kansas State and Georgia would not be harmful to our post season resume if we do well in Big East season..