Around the Big East 18/19

[quote="danfog" post=330257]Jarvis and big guys. Shaw cuffed cook? Who were the big guys?[/quote]

Patrick Ewing and Yinka Dare.
 
[quote="danfog" post=330257]Jarvis and big guys. Shaw cuffed cook? Who were the big guys?[/quote]

Is this a serious question? Jarvis always had his rosters loaded with huge wings and bigs.

Cuffe was listed at 6’9 243. Abe the scumbag Keita was 6’11 225. Mo Diakate was 6’11 235. Curtis Johnson was 7’3 310. Anthony Glover was a refridgerator. Donald Emanuel, Alpha Bangura, Grady Reynolds, Eric King, Lamont Hamilton, Rodney Epperson...big boys.
 
Gerogetown trying to sneek back in here. Down to 14, still lots of time.

Seton Hall really will go as far as Powell takes them, but he can take them a very, very long way.
 
So this "anything can happen", "disregard the seed" Big East Tournament, is going to be sending it's first, second, third, and fourth seeds to the Tournament Semifinals.

And of the six games played, only Creighton-Xavier came down to the wire.

The narrative changed quickly.
 
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Seton Hall will be moving on.

They have undeniably positioned themselves as the best local college hoops program. Simply put, that is not a good thing for St. John's.

If Willard were to win two NCAA games this year, he just might get himself a bigger job offer.
 
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They have no impact on us. None. I live in Jersey. Surrounded by sports fans. I don’t know a single Seton Hall fan. The casual sports fan or die hard sports fan without a college team gravitates to us, Nova, Duke or someone else. It is why their fan base is so paranoid about any success that Rutgers may have.

They are having a nice run here and Powell is really fun to watch but no St John’s fan should worry about Seton Hall. Worry about our own program.
 
[quote="Rob" post=330666]They have no impact on us. None. I live in Jersey. Surrounded by sports fans. I don’t know a single Seton Hall fan. The casual sports fan or die hard sports fan without a college team gravitates to us, Nova, Duke or someone else. It is why their fan base is so paranoid about any success that Rutgers may have.

They are having a nice run here and Powell is really fun to watch but no St John’s fan should worry about Seton Hall. Worry about our own program.[/quote]

They are about to go dancing for the fourth consecutive year and won the Big East Tournament just three years ago.. That matters.

It matters for recruiting and it matters in relation to maintaining an active fan base.
 
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=330667][quote="Rob" post=330666]They have no impact on us. None. I live in Jersey. Surrounded by sports fans. I don’t know a single Seton Hall fan. The casual sports fan or die hard sports fan without a college team gravitates to us, Nova, Duke or someone else. It is why their fan base is so paranoid about any success that Rutgers may have.

They are having a nice run here and Powell is really fun to watch but no St John’s fan should worry about Seton Hall. Worry about our own program.[/quote]

They are about to go dancing for the fourth consecutive year and won the Big East Tournament just three years ago.. That matters.

It matters for recruiting and it matters in relation to maintaining an active fan base.[/quote]

And nobody in the media cares. SJU was ranked 24th this year and Chris Mullin was on sportscenter, The NY Times and multiple national publications.

Seton Hall is not a threat.
 
[quote="Sju grad 13" post=330668][quote="JohnnyFan" post=330667][quote="Rob" post=330666]They have no impact on us. None. I live in Jersey. Surrounded by sports fans. I don’t know a single Seton Hall fan. The casual sports fan or die hard sports fan without a college team gravitates to us, Nova, Duke or someone else. It is why their fan base is so paranoid about any success that Rutgers may have.

They are having a nice run here and Powell is really fun to watch but no St John’s fan should worry about Seton Hall. Worry about our own program.[/quote]

They are about to go dancing for the fourth consecutive year and won the Big East Tournament just three years ago.. That matters.

It matters for recruiting and it matters in relation to maintaining an active fan base.[/quote]

And nobody in the media cares. SJU was ranked 24th this year and Chris Mullin was on sportscenter, The NY Times and multiple national publications.

Seton Hall is not a threat.[/quote]

Seton Hall has a game tomorrow.
 
By the way, when people suggest St. John's should focus on 3 and 4 star local kids........guess who has been doing that successfully for the past few years.......

Myles Powell (Trenton,NJ)
Quincy McKnight (Bridgeport, CT)
Mike Nzei (Centereach, NY)
Anthony Nelson (Harlem, NY)
Taureen Thompson (New York, NY)
DeShawn Davis (Bronx, NY)
Derrick Gordon (Elizabeth, NJ)
Isiah Whitehead (Brooklyn,NY)
Kadeem Carrington (Brooklyn, NY)
Desi Rodriguez (Bronx, NY)
Angel Delgado (Bronx, NY)
Ismael Sanogo (Newark, NJ)
 
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So do 3 other teams. Hall success has no impact on the program.


[quote="JohnnyFan" post=330669][quote="Sju grad 13" post=330668][quote="JohnnyFan" post=330667][quote="Rob" post=330666]They have no impact on us. None. I live in Jersey. Surrounded by sports fans. I don’t know a single Seton Hall fan. The casual sports fan or die hard sports fan without a college team gravitates to us, Nova, Duke or someone else. It is why their fan base is so paranoid about any success that Rutgers may have.

They are having a nice run here and Powell is really fun to watch but no St John’s fan should worry about Seton Hall. Worry about our own program.[/quote]

They are about to go dancing for the fourth consecutive year and won the Big East Tournament just three years ago.. That matters.

It matters for recruiting and it matters in relation to maintaining an active fan base.[/quote]

And nobody in the media cares. SJU was ranked 24th this year and Chris Mullin was on sportscenter, The NY Times and multiple national publications.

Seton Hall is not a threat.[/quote]

Seton Hall has a game tomorrow.[/quote]
 
Misleading post. 4 of those kids came directly by them hiring two assistant coaches - and 4 of the best 5 of the lot. Several others are transfers or kids who would have been run out of here by their first or second year. Powell was a truly great find by Holloway and Hall staff has done a nice job of developing Nzei and did same with Sanogo.

The magic elixir is not recruiting only local players. It’s recruiting a balanced roster of talented kids, developing them and maintaining continuity.


[quote="JohnnyFan" post=330671]By the way, when people suggest St. John's should focus on 3 and 4 star local kids........guess who has been doing that successfully for the past few years.......

Myles Powell (Trenton,NJ)
Quincy McKnight (Bridgeport, CT)
Mike Nzei (Centereach, NY)
Anthony Nelson (Harlem, NY)
Taureen Thompson (New York, NY)
DeShawn Davis (Bronx, NY)
Derrick Gordon (Elizabeth, NJ)
Isiah Whitehead (Brooklyn,NY)
Kadeem Carrington (Brooklyn, NY)
Desi Rodriguez (Bronx, NY)
Angel Delgado (Bronx, NY)
Ismael Sanogo (Newark, NJ)[/quote]
 
[quote="Room112" post=330285]Anyone know how the attendance has been so far for the Big East tourney?[/quote]
Late arriving last night but packed mid way thru 1st half
 
[quote="Rob" post=330690]Misleading post. 4 of those kids came directly by them hiring two assistant coaches - and 4 of the best 5 of the lot. Several others are transfers or kids who would have been run out of here by their first or second year. Powell was a truly great find by Holloway and Hall staff has done a nice job of developing Nzei and did same with Sanogo.

The magic elixir is not recruiting only local players. It’s recruiting a balanced roster of talented kids, developing them and maintaining continuity.


[quote="JohnnyFan" post=330671]By the way, when people suggest St. John's should focus on 3 and 4 star local kids........guess who has been doing that successfully for the past few years.......

Myles Powell (Trenton,NJ)
Quincy McKnight (Bridgeport, CT)
Mike Nzei (Centereach, NY)
Anthony Nelson (Harlem, NY)
Taureen Thompson (New York, NY)
DeShawn Davis (Bronx, NY)
Derrick Gordon (Elizabeth, NJ)
Isiah Whitehead (Brooklyn,NY)
Kadeem Carrington (Brooklyn, NY)
Desi Rodriguez (Bronx, NY)
Angel Delgado (Bronx, NY)
Ismael Sanogo (Newark, NJ)[/quote][/quote]

Whatever the reasons, the point is that while we make excuses, minimize how they got their players and complain about the legal hiring of Tiny, Seton Hall is busy out performing us ten fold. Time to tip the cap and start emulating what Providence, Xavier and Seton Hall are doing. To me, the biggest difference is that career basketball coaches are establishing a definitive culture and leading very well organized programs.
 
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=330711] To me, the biggest difference is that career basketball coaches are establishing a definitive culture and leading very well organized programs.[/quote]

I'm with Rob on this one.... But to highlight your point, Johnnyfan: Your quote above is on the mark.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=330671]By the way, when people suggest St. John's should focus on 3 and 4 star local kids........guess who has been doing that successfully for the past few years.......

Myles Powell (Trenton,NJ)
Quincy McKnight (Bridgeport, CT)
Mike Nzei (Centereach, NY)
Anthony Nelson (Harlem, NY)
Taureen Thompson (New York, NY)
DeShawn Davis (Bronx, NY)
Derrick Gordon (Elizabeth, NJ)
Isiah Whitehead (Brooklyn,NY)
Kadeem Carrington (Brooklyn, NY)
Desi Rodriguez (Bronx, NY)
Angel Delgado (Bronx, NY)
Ismael Sanogo (Newark, NJ)[/quote]
Add Jared Rhoden (Baldwin, NY)
 
[quote="gonzalo" post=330861][quote="JohnnyFan" post=330671]By the way, when people suggest St. John's should focus on 3 and 4 star local kids........guess who has been doing that successfully for the past few years.......

Myles Powell (Trenton,NJ)
Quincy McKnight (Bridgeport, CT)
Mike Nzei (Centereach, NY)
Anthony Nelson (Harlem, NY)
Taureen Thompson (New York, NY)
DeShawn Davis (Bronx, NY)
Derrick Gordon (Elizabeth, NJ)
Isiah Whitehead (Brooklyn,NY)
Kadeem Carrington (Brooklyn, NY)
Desi Rodriguez (Bronx, NY)
Angel Delgado (Bronx, NY)
Ismael Sanogo (Newark, NJ)[/quote]
Add Jared Rhoden (Baldwin, NY)[/quote]

Clearly Whitehead was that "pipeline" guy, in that his recruitment opened the door for Seton Hall to get other guys.

We were hoping that Ponds would do the same thing for us, but it has not happened. Why? I don't know.
 
Officials for Xavier/Nova: Mike Stephens, Brian O'Connell, Jeff Anderson

Is there a Q&A with Stephens for Johnny fans post game?
 
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