Around the Big East 18/19
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JohnnyFever
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Wow, Marquette and Villanova just barely stayed ranked for championship week, with Marquette at #23 and Villanova at #25. I know these rankings don't mean anything in regards to seeding, but they are important for visibility. Would've been rough to see a BET without any ranked teams.
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[quote="ron " post=329380][quote="Knight" post=329366]Who was named Fan of the Year?[/quote]
Dick Vitale[/quote]
Unanimous choice by Duke.
Dick Vitale[/quote]
Unanimous choice by Duke.
[quote="Paultzman" post=329543]Evan Daniels
Ike Obiagu blocked 71 shots as a freshman at Florida State. After transferring and sitting out, he'll make an impact at Seton Hall right away next season.
Nice size at SH next year if most bigs return.[/quote]
Good chance of making a 4th straight NCAA T appearance after losing 4 of their top players from last years team. Reports are that Powell will like stay for his senior year. Some of our fans love to take shots at Willard's coaching ability though where all I hear from all the talking heads is universal praise for his coaching ability. People who live in glass houses...
Ike Obiagu blocked 71 shots as a freshman at Florida State. After transferring and sitting out, he'll make an impact at Seton Hall right away next season.
Nice size at SH next year if most bigs return.[/quote]
Good chance of making a 4th straight NCAA T appearance after losing 4 of their top players from last years team. Reports are that Powell will like stay for his senior year. Some of our fans love to take shots at Willard's coaching ability though where all I hear from all the talking heads is universal praise for his coaching ability. People who live in glass houses...
Moose
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[quote="bamafan" post=329661][quote="Paultzman" post=329543]Evan Daniels
Ike Obiagu blocked 71 shots as a freshman at Florida State. After transferring and sitting out, he'll make an impact at Seton Hall right away next season.
Nice size at SH next year if most bigs return.[/quote]
Good chance of making a 4th straight NCAA T appearance after losing 4 of their top players from last years team. Reports are that Powell will like stay for his senior year. Some of our fans love to take shots at Willard's coaching ability though where all I hear from all the talking heads is universal praise for his coaching ability. People who live in glass houses...[/quote]
Should be Coach of the Year in BE
Ike Obiagu blocked 71 shots as a freshman at Florida State. After transferring and sitting out, he'll make an impact at Seton Hall right away next season.
Nice size at SH next year if most bigs return.[/quote]
Good chance of making a 4th straight NCAA T appearance after losing 4 of their top players from last years team. Reports are that Powell will like stay for his senior year. Some of our fans love to take shots at Willard's coaching ability though where all I hear from all the talking heads is universal praise for his coaching ability. People who live in glass houses...[/quote]
Should be Coach of the Year in BE
It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.
Have to give Hall a lot of credit, they really stepped up in a year where the league needed somebody unexpected to get a bid. Marquette and Villanova were the only "safe" tournament teams heading into this season, and even they were questionable. First couple weeks of the season were ugly for the entire conference, but Hall's wins over Kentucky and Maryland were massive. Glad to see them clinch a much needed third bid for the conference. Hopefully we can help and get a fourth tomorrow.
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Moose
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[quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait
[quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.
Moose
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[quote="Room112" post=329690][quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
Fair to say that but I can't agree overall
I can agree with he didn't see his success till year 6 and his first 5 years this place would have roasted him. Oh wait I shouldn't have said that.........
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
Fair to say that but I can't agree overall
I can agree with he didn't see his success till year 6 and his first 5 years this place would have roasted him. Oh wait I shouldn't have said that.........
[quote="Moose" post=329691][quote="Room112" post=329690][quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
Fair to say that but I can't agree overall
I can agree with he didn't see his success till year 6 and his first 5 years this place would have roasted him. Oh wait I shouldn't have said that.........[/quote]
Haha fair enough!
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
Fair to say that but I can't agree overall
I can agree with he didn't see his success till year 6 and his first 5 years this place would have roasted him. Oh wait I shouldn't have said that.........[/quote]
Haha fair enough!
prjohnnies
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We hardly talk about him until someone brings up the Hall.
Go to their board if you want some amusement. They have multiple threads directed at SJU and Mullin on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. They start separate threads for almost all of our games. And when we have any success, like this year, the board is priceless. I guess because Mullin taking a sip of water gets more attention than their program.
[quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
Go to their board if you want some amusement. They have multiple threads directed at SJU and Mullin on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. They start separate threads for almost all of our games. And when we have any success, like this year, the board is priceless. I guess because Mullin taking a sip of water gets more attention than their program.
[quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
JohnnyFever
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[quote="Room112" post=329690][quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
We'd be building a statue for Willard if he was here. What is it, 4 or 5 straight NCAA appearances, spending lots of time in the top 25 last year, beating UK and Maryland this year OOC, winning a BEC, and finishing 3rd going to the NCAA's with some brand new inexperienced team? They were picked 7th or 8th by a lot of people and finished 3rd. This is why I push back when people say "youngest team in America" so any freshmen on your team means auto-loss. If you hire the right guys to blend talent, you maximize potential even with less talent. You can start to see signs pretty early on IMO. I do think they need to do more in the postseason, but by our standards, having the same last 5 seasons as SHU would be heaven for us.
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
We'd be building a statue for Willard if he was here. What is it, 4 or 5 straight NCAA appearances, spending lots of time in the top 25 last year, beating UK and Maryland this year OOC, winning a BEC, and finishing 3rd going to the NCAA's with some brand new inexperienced team? They were picked 7th or 8th by a lot of people and finished 3rd. This is why I push back when people say "youngest team in America" so any freshmen on your team means auto-loss. If you hire the right guys to blend talent, you maximize potential even with less talent. You can start to see signs pretty early on IMO. I do think they need to do more in the postseason, but by our standards, having the same last 5 seasons as SHU would be heaven for us.
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=329774][quote="Room112" post=329690][quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
We'd be building a statue for Willard if he was here. What is it, 4 or 5 straight NCAA appearances, spending lots of time in the top 25 last year, beating UK and Maryland this year OOC, winning a BEC, and finishing 3rd going to the NCAA's with some brand new inexperienced team? They were picked 7th or 8th by a lot of people and finished 3rd. This is why I push back when people say "youngest team in America" so any freshmen on your team means auto-loss. If you hire the right guys to blend talent, you maximize potential even with less talent. You can start to see signs pretty early on IMO. I do think they need to do more in the postseason, but by our standards, having the same last 5 seasons as SHU would be heaven for us.[/quote]
As Moose pointed out, they did not make an NCAA tourney in his first 5 seasons. His Big East finishes those years were 12th, 10th, 13th, 8th, 7th. His Big East record those years was 30-60. His team was 17-17 and 16-15 in years 4 and 5.
So you're telling me as a fan you would have found this acceptable and not been calling for his head?
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
We'd be building a statue for Willard if he was here. What is it, 4 or 5 straight NCAA appearances, spending lots of time in the top 25 last year, beating UK and Maryland this year OOC, winning a BEC, and finishing 3rd going to the NCAA's with some brand new inexperienced team? They were picked 7th or 8th by a lot of people and finished 3rd. This is why I push back when people say "youngest team in America" so any freshmen on your team means auto-loss. If you hire the right guys to blend talent, you maximize potential even with less talent. You can start to see signs pretty early on IMO. I do think they need to do more in the postseason, but by our standards, having the same last 5 seasons as SHU would be heaven for us.[/quote]
As Moose pointed out, they did not make an NCAA tourney in his first 5 seasons. His Big East finishes those years were 12th, 10th, 13th, 8th, 7th. His Big East record those years was 30-60. His team was 17-17 and 16-15 in years 4 and 5.
So you're telling me as a fan you would have found this acceptable and not been calling for his head?
JohnnyFever
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[quote="Room112" post=329778][quote="Mike Zaun" post=329774][quote="Room112" post=329690][quote="Moose" post=329687][quote="Jack Williams" post=329664]It wouldn't be a day on redmen without someone praising/denouncing Kevin Willard. We talk about him almost as much as Mullin.[/quote]
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
We'd be building a statue for Willard if he was here. What is it, 4 or 5 straight NCAA appearances, spending lots of time in the top 25 last year, beating UK and Maryland this year OOC, winning a BEC, and finishing 3rd going to the NCAA's with some brand new inexperienced team? They were picked 7th or 8th by a lot of people and finished 3rd. This is why I push back when people say "youngest team in America" so any freshmen on your team means auto-loss. If you hire the right guys to blend talent, you maximize potential even with less talent. You can start to see signs pretty early on IMO. I do think they need to do more in the postseason, but by our standards, having the same last 5 seasons as SHU would be heaven for us.[/quote]
As Moose pointed out, they did not make an NCAA tourney in his first 5 seasons. His Big East finishes those years were 12th, 10th, 13th, 8th, 7th. His Big East record those years was 30-60. His team was 17-17 and 16-15 in years 4 and 5.
So you're telling me as a fan you would have found this acceptable and not been calling for his head?[/quote]
Good point, however the first 3 or 4 (forget which was the 1st year of realignment) of those first 5 years were in the old Big East with UConn, Cuse, L'Ville, ND, Cincy, Pitt, WVU, etc. Apples and oranges IMO. Much tougher then to win. When Seton Hall competes against similar programs like it is now, they have done well. In his 2nd season at SHU he had them ranked 24th at one point. Year 2 at SHU was 21 wins. The upside was pretty evident since realignment and it's been clear. His teams have performed and this year wildly better than they should have on paper.
It's a fellow BE coach. You make it seem like it's a random PAC 12 or ACC coach. Or someone like Danny Hurley. Oh wait[/quote]
If Willard was our coach, you can guarantee he would have been run out of town by this board long ago. I'm sure he would also be universally hated here for various reasons. Top of the list would be lack of postseason wins. You know, because unless our program who hasn't won a tourney game in two decades isn't getting results just like Nova, it's completely unnaceptable.[/quote]
We'd be building a statue for Willard if he was here. What is it, 4 or 5 straight NCAA appearances, spending lots of time in the top 25 last year, beating UK and Maryland this year OOC, winning a BEC, and finishing 3rd going to the NCAA's with some brand new inexperienced team? They were picked 7th or 8th by a lot of people and finished 3rd. This is why I push back when people say "youngest team in America" so any freshmen on your team means auto-loss. If you hire the right guys to blend talent, you maximize potential even with less talent. You can start to see signs pretty early on IMO. I do think they need to do more in the postseason, but by our standards, having the same last 5 seasons as SHU would be heaven for us.[/quote]
As Moose pointed out, they did not make an NCAA tourney in his first 5 seasons. His Big East finishes those years were 12th, 10th, 13th, 8th, 7th. His Big East record those years was 30-60. His team was 17-17 and 16-15 in years 4 and 5.
So you're telling me as a fan you would have found this acceptable and not been calling for his head?[/quote]
Good point, however the first 3 or 4 (forget which was the 1st year of realignment) of those first 5 years were in the old Big East with UConn, Cuse, L'Ville, ND, Cincy, Pitt, WVU, etc. Apples and oranges IMO. Much tougher then to win. When Seton Hall competes against similar programs like it is now, they have done well. In his 2nd season at SHU he had them ranked 24th at one point. Year 2 at SHU was 21 wins. The upside was pretty evident since realignment and it's been clear. His teams have performed and this year wildly better than they should have on paper.