Around the Big East 18/19

[quote="MJDinkins" post=328322][quote="Room112" post=328303]I don't think anyone would deny we have the most individual talent in the league. Unfortunately when put together as a team it's very incomplete[/quote]

Someone I spoke to two days ago said the same thing, Room 112. Practically verbatim.[/quote]

Man I feel like I was a bit jaded earlier in the year and finally seeing things from your point of view!
 
Agree to disagree on this one. Hell go to the Seton Hall board and see what they say about their coach after 9 years. Their offense often looks as if it's never been coached. Powell bails them out consistently and he's been terrific in particular the past few games scoring nearly half their points

Beyond that, part of "coaching" is bringing in players. If their roster is as bad as some of you think after making a few NCAA tourneys, what does that say?


[quote="Chicago Days" post=328282][quote="Rob" post=328164]I don't think they were well coached at all. They've had promising guys regress or not play well at all the last half of the season. What they've been saved by lately is Powell being absolutely incredible. He scored like half their points tonight.[/quote]

Truly dislike putting it this way, but the Hall imo has gotten 'more' out of their 'roster' than we have ours, considering the big-time pre-season hype of our team and the Hall being relegated to 8 - 10th place in pre-season rankings.
Plus, I've seen Willard make in-game adjustments I wish we did as often.
'All that' tells me they've well-coached AND that Powell is a warrior.
Luv the kid's grit![/quote]
 
[quote="JackofVirginia" post=328323][quote="usguard" post=328253]Think he is better than Ponds mo[/quote]



He certainly finishes better. Ponds fades away on his drives while Powell takes the easy route with layups.[/quote]

Come on VA, Ponds finishing in uncanny. How soon we seem to forget.
 
Regardless of who you prefer Powell or Ponds I think it is fair to say that Powell has exceeded his preseason second team all Big East selection (see below). He is clearly a candidate for conference player of the year and should definitely be a first team all Big East selection. Ponds was the Pre-season Big East player of the year choice. I am not sure he will achieve that Post-Season. Of course Ponds went into the season with very high expectations as did St. John's as a team. That is why many of us are frustrated that, with one game left and a below five hundred 8 and 9 conference record, we are still a potential candidate for the Wednesday night 7-10 play in games. While we have shown some incremental improvement, I beleive the hope was for better.

[URL]https://www.bigeast.com/news/2...ed-big-east-preseason-player-of-the-year.aspx[/URL]
 
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@Hoyas247

Jessie Govan has been named a Top-5 Finalist for the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Center of the Year Award.

The other finalists are:
Bruno Fernando, Maryland
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
Nathan Knight, William & Mary
Charles Bassey, Western Kentucky
 
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Georgetown’s moment on the Bubble Watch page didn’t last long. Any loss at DePaul on Wednesday night would have been harmful. A loss by a margin you’d typically expect when, say, Gonzaga meets a low-level WCC opponent — final score: 101-69! — only cakes on another layer of bad. The Hoyas had only just moved into the picture last week and were still working themselves up from the bubble fringe since, looking to overcome a high-70s NET and a 233rd-ranked nonconference strength of schedule. They still have Saturday’s game at Marquette to redeem themselves, but getting Zag’d by DePaul is cause for banishment for now.

Speaking of possibly temporary banishment: Xavier. The Musketeers’ thrilling push toward the bubble — a five-game winning streak dating to Feb. 13, including wins over Creighton and Villanova at home and Seton Hall and St. John’s away — hit its first pushback on Tuesday night at Butler. We figure the Musketeers probably had to win out (and do work in the Big East tournament) to climb into that first-four-out mix, but a win over St. John’s on Saturday and the aforementioned tournament work might still do the trick. Let’s see how this weekend goes and adjust accordingly, yeah?

Locks: Villanova, Marquette

Work to do: Creighton, Seton Hall, St. John’s

Creighton (16-13, 8-9 — NET: 52, SOS: 13): Don’t look now, but the Bluejays’ 76-70 overtime win over Providence was their fourth straight. It’s hard to overstate just how much of a turnaround the past two weeks have been. Remember: This team lost four straight in two respective stretches in early January and February; after the second, Bubble Watch left it for dead. Yet last Sunday’s win at Marquette was enough to propel the Bluejays back into the picture, and Wednesday’s OT holdout was enough to keep them there. Up next: Saturday at home against a DePaul team that is suddenly good at basketball. Everything’s on the table.

Seton Hall (17-12, 8-9 — NET: 61, SOS: 38): Seton Hall’s gonna Seton Hall, right? The Pirates lost three straight — all well-played, hard-fought games, two of which came on the road, but still — before Wednesday’s visit from Marquette. Seton Hall trailed the Golden Eagles by nine with just under five minutes to play, the doom of a fourth straight loss encroaching by the second. Naturally, the Pirates won, 73-64, thanks to an 18-0 run to end the game. This is their season in a nutshell. They are equally capable of playing brilliant basketball and beating nearly any team in any gym (see Kentucky on a neutral court, Maryland at Maryland, etc.) as they they are of extended periods of losing basketball. The overriding hope is that the former outweighs the latter. For now, with none but Villanova (at home) standing between them and the Big East tournament, the bubble balance appears to be tilted toward the Hall.

St. John’s (20-10, 8-9 — NET: 62, SOS: 71): Just last week, the Red Storm were listed as “should be in,” and even if they weren’t anywhere near a lock, their at-large odds felt as short as they had at any point during the season. Two losses later — one at home to Xavier, then last Sunday’s 92-83 defeat at DePaul — and they look destined to spend the days between now and the selection show in a state of at least mild uncertainty, even if we still think they’re in the bracket at the moment. That uncertainty could be heightened on Saturday, when they visit a raucous Cintas Center to face the same Xavier team that beat the Johnnies in New York just nine days before.
 
[quote="ghostzapper" post=328334]Regardless of who you prefer Powell or Ponds I think it is fair to say that Powell has exceeded his preseason second team all Big East selection (see below). He is clearly a candidate for conference player of the year and should definitely be a first team all Big East selection. Ponds was the Pre-season Big East player of the year choice. I am not sure he will achieve that Post-Season. Of course Ponds went into the season with very high expectations as did St. John's as a team. That is why many of us are frustrated that, with one game left and a below five hundred 8 and 9 conference record, we are still a potential candidate for the Wednesday night 7-10 play in games. While we have shown some incremental improvement, I beleive the hope was for better.

[URL]https://www.bigeast.com/news/2...ed-big-east-preseason-player-of-the-year.aspx[/URL][/quote]
All BE POY candidates have had stinkers. Howard has had the least number and will win. Ponds would be #2.
 
The last day of the regular season:

12 noon - Butler at Providence - YES
12 noon - Villanova at Seton Hall - FOX
2:30 PM - Georgetown at Marquette - FOX
8:00 PM - Depaul at Creighton - FS1
 
Would be surprised if the Hall /Nova game isn’t a close one. SH has the best player and the home court but I would rather nova win.
 
Right now, Seton Hall getting unexpected points from Jared Rhoden. Already has 9 points. Seton Hall clearly has the momentum and feeding off their crowd.
 
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[quote="MJDinkins" post=328484]Right now, Seton Hall getting unexpected points from Jared Rhoden. Already has 9 points. Seton Hall clearly has the momentum and feeding off their crowd.[/quote]

Not good news there so far, but Providence is up 21 on Butler in the first half. That would help slightly with the "stay out of Wednesday" scenario, as it would give Butler an 11th loss.
 
I'm not a big fan of calling a timeout in a scramble for the ball, unless it's late in the game and/or you haven't used any TOs.
Exception for no TOs used late in first half.
 
Kevin W deserves credit for keeping his kids’ heads up during some tough times this season. Net of Powell, SH has an ordinary roster, but they always defend and compete. If they hold on today v Nova, they all deserve kudos. Consider the caliber of kids who they lost from last year.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=328491]Kevin W deserves credit for keeping his kids’ heads up during some tough times this season. Net of Powell, SH has an ordinary roster, but they always defend and compete. If they hold on today v Nova, they all deserve kudos. Consider the caliber of kids who they lost from last year.[/quote]

Lots of time remaining in this one, of course, but I think they're gonna beat Villanova today. Mamu also coming up big for the Hall with timely offensive rebounds which are resulting into second-chance points.
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=328491]Kevin W deserves credit for keeping his kids’ heads up during some tough times this season. Net of Powell, SH has an ordinary roster, but they always defend and compete. If they hold on today v Nova, they all deserve kudos. Consider the caliber of kids who they lost from last year.[/quote]

Agreed. To come away with 8 or 9 BE wins with that roster represents a very solid coaching job.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=328493][quote="Paultzman" post=328491]Kevin W deserves credit for keeping his kids’ heads up during some tough times this season. Net of Powell, SH has an ordinary roster, but they always defend and compete. If they hold on today v Nova, they all deserve kudos. Consider the caliber of kids who they lost from last year.[/quote]

Lots of time remaining in this one, of course, but I think they're gonna beat Villanova today. Mamu also coming up big for the Hall with timely offensive rebounds which are resulting into second-chance points.[/quote]
Offensive rebounding does not matter Dink. :)
 
Remember if all home teams hold serve (looking like home teams will be 2-0 in early games) we will play seton hall in the 3v6 game.
 
I find it crazy that in a year we are by pundits “difficult not to make the tournament”, yet we are trying to play our way out of it. I know today’s game is against Xavier on the road, but we need to start playing to win. We have little shotnin the tourney otherwise. Timento add a few wrinkles to our game plan here.
 
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