Around the Big East 18/19
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[quote="L J S A" post=328102][quote="fordham96" post=328088]Marquette has lost 3 in a row. But look at how they have lost them. They led all 3 at the under 5 minute mark including tonight by 9. They have been outscored 46-9 combined in the last 5 minutes of each of these 3 losses. They got outscored 18-0 to end tonight, from up 9 to down 9.[/quote]
That's crazy. Fatigue? Poor coaching down the stretch?[/quote]
Wojo has to take a bit of a hit here. Need to close out these games. That is on him and his staff Up 12 and 13 in the 2nd half tonight and up 9 with less than 5 and you don't close it out. Not just that but it is one thing to blow a 9 point lead and say lose on a late 3 pointer or something. But to be up 9 64-55 with under 5 and DON'T SCORE THE REST OF THE GAME is just baffling...
That's crazy. Fatigue? Poor coaching down the stretch?[/quote]
Wojo has to take a bit of a hit here. Need to close out these games. That is on him and his staff Up 12 and 13 in the 2nd half tonight and up 9 with less than 5 and you don't close it out. Not just that but it is one thing to blow a 9 point lead and say lose on a late 3 pointer or something. But to be up 9 64-55 with under 5 and DON'T SCORE THE REST OF THE GAME is just baffling...
If the Depaul and Creighton scores hold, then we have a 5-way tie for third in the Big East at 8-9 (the Big East website has Seton Hall listed at 9-9, but that is a misprint). Only two of those five teams (St. John's and Xavier) will be playing each other this weekend, so it can absolutely end in a crazy finish.
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Not to mention Fordham playing a Seton Hall squad that literally has one player who seemingly can get a bucket when needed. Powell is the only one that scares you right now. He's playing great, but that supporting cast has been far worse than they were earlier in the year which is why the Hall has looked bad recently.
[quote="fordham96" post=328113][quote="L J S A" post=328102][quote="fordham96" post=328088]Marquette has lost 3 in a row. But look at how they have lost them. They led all 3 at the under 5 minute mark including tonight by 9. They have been outscored 46-9 combined in the last 5 minutes of each of these 3 losses. They got outscored 18-0 to end tonight, from up 9 to down 9.[/quote]
That's crazy. Fatigue? Poor coaching down the stretch?[/quote]
Wojo has to take a bit of a hit here. Need to close out these games. That is on him and his staff Up 12 and 13 in the 2nd half tonight and up 9 with less than 5 and you don't close it out. Not just that but it is one thing to blow a 9 point lead and say lose on a late 3 pointer or something. But to be up 9 64-55 with under 5 and DON'T SCORE THE REST OF THE GAME is just baffling...[/quote]
[quote="fordham96" post=328113][quote="L J S A" post=328102][quote="fordham96" post=328088]Marquette has lost 3 in a row. But look at how they have lost them. They led all 3 at the under 5 minute mark including tonight by 9. They have been outscored 46-9 combined in the last 5 minutes of each of these 3 losses. They got outscored 18-0 to end tonight, from up 9 to down 9.[/quote]
That's crazy. Fatigue? Poor coaching down the stretch?[/quote]
Wojo has to take a bit of a hit here. Need to close out these games. That is on him and his staff Up 12 and 13 in the 2nd half tonight and up 9 with less than 5 and you don't close it out. Not just that but it is one thing to blow a 9 point lead and say lose on a late 3 pointer or something. But to be up 9 64-55 with under 5 and DON'T SCORE THE REST OF THE GAME is just baffling...[/quote]
SJU61982 wrote: If the Depaul and Creighton scores hold, then we have a 5-way tie for third in the Big East at 8-9 (the Big East website has Seton Hall listed at 9-9, but that is a misprint).
What could help us is we hold tie-breaker for BET seeding purposes over Creighton, Hall & Georgetown in that we beat Creighton twice and have better record than the other two against Marquette & Nova.
What could help us is we hold tie-breaker for BET seeding purposes over Creighton, Hall & Georgetown in that we beat Creighton twice and have better record than the other two against Marquette & Nova.
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=328118]SJU61982 wrote: If the Depaul and Creighton scores hold, then we have a 5-way tie for third in the Big East at 8-9 (the Big East website has Seton Hall listed at 9-9, but that is a misprint).
What could help us is we hold tie-breaker for BET seeding purposes over Creighton, Hall & Georgetown in that we beat Creighton twice and have better record than the other two against Marquette & Nova.[/quote]
Actually, in a 3-team (or more) tie, the teams are considered a "mini-conference", and cumulative record against the other teams in the tiebreaker is first step towards breaking the tie (we'd be 4-2 against the teams you mentioned, as an example, so that would probably put us in a good spot).
If teams still have the same record after breaking that tie, then it goes head-to-head, followed by strength of victory.
What could help us is we hold tie-breaker for BET seeding purposes over Creighton, Hall & Georgetown in that we beat Creighton twice and have better record than the other two against Marquette & Nova.[/quote]
Actually, in a 3-team (or more) tie, the teams are considered a "mini-conference", and cumulative record against the other teams in the tiebreaker is first step towards breaking the tie (we'd be 4-2 against the teams you mentioned, as an example, so that would probably put us in a good spot).
If teams still have the same record after breaking that tie, then it goes head-to-head, followed by strength of victory.
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Wonder if there were a few posts deleted over on the seton hall board tonight? Good for them and perhaps bad for us. Just win.
SJU61982 wrote: Actually, in a 3-team (or more) tie, the teams are considered a "mini-conference", and cumulative record against the other teams in the tiebreaker is first step towards breaking the tie (we'd be 4-2 against the teams you mentioned, as an example).
If teams still have the same record after breaking that tie, then it goes head-to-head, followed by strength of victory.
Thanks for that info. I didn't realize a multi-team tiebreaker worked differently than if we were tied with just one of them. Now Creighton looks like they may blow the game to Providence which is not good for us.
If teams still have the same record after breaking that tie, then it goes head-to-head, followed by strength of victory.
Thanks for that info. I didn't realize a multi-team tiebreaker worked differently than if we were tied with just one of them. Now Creighton looks like they may blow the game to Providence which is not good for us.
It’s unreal how everything we needed to happen tonight isn’t happening. we are about to go 0/3 in results that would’ve helped us stay out of Wednesday night.
Now Wednesday is a huge possibility. The one remedy for the johnnies now, is to win
Now Wednesday is a huge possibility. The one remedy for the johnnies now, is to win
[quote="Jack Williams" post=328124]It’s unreal how everything we needed to happen tonight isn’t happening. we are about to go 0/3 in results that would’ve helped us stay out of Wednesday night.
Now Wednesday is a huge possibility. The one remedy for the johnnies now, is to win[/quote] welcome to the world of being a st johns fan
Now Wednesday is a huge possibility. The one remedy for the johnnies now, is to win[/quote] welcome to the world of being a st johns fan
Tyshon Alexander doesn’t know it but he might’ve just saved St. John’s from being in the embarrassing Wednesday games
[quote="Jack Williams" post=328124]It’s unreal how everything we needed to happen tonight isn’t happening. we are about to go 0/3 in results that would’ve helped us stay out of Wednesday night.
Now Wednesday is a huge possibility. The one remedy for the johnnies now, is to win[/quote]
FWIW, winning has always been the remedy we needed...
Now Wednesday is a huge possibility. The one remedy for the johnnies now, is to win[/quote]
FWIW, winning has always been the remedy we needed...
[quote="Jack Williams" post=328127]Tyshon Alexander doesn’t know it but he might’ve just saved St. John’s from being in the embarrassing Wednesday games[/quote]
We have a lot to thank Creighton for this year, if they hang on! Beating them twice (especially on the road) has kept us on the right side of the bubble, to this point.
We have a lot to thank Creighton for this year, if they hang on! Beating them twice (especially on the road) has kept us on the right side of the bubble, to this point.