tom in salem
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[quote="austour" post=278327]Seton Hall will be playing on Wednesday in the BET next year. Let's hope SJU isn't.[/quote]
Probably make us play on Tuesday.
Probably make us play on Tuesday.
Around the Big East '17-18
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[quote="Dan V" post=278786][quote="austour" post=278783]182, 212, and 218 coming in vs 145, 228 and Earlinton. Let's be honest, neither killed it with incoming frosh.[/quote]Where was Desi Rodriguez ranked in HS 
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Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.
[/quote]Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.
Dan V
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[quote="austour" post=278886][quote="Dan V" post=278786][quote="austour" post=278783]182, 212, and 218 coming in vs 145, 228 and Earlinton. Let's be honest, neither killed it with incoming frosh.[/quote]Where was Desi Rodriguez ranked in HS [/quote]
Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?
[/quote]Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?
[quote="Dan V" post=278916][quote="austour" post=278886][quote="Dan V" post=278786][quote="austour" post=278783]182, 212, and 218 coming in vs 145, 228 and Earlinton. Let's be honest, neither killed it with incoming frosh.[/quote]Where was Desi Rodriguez ranked in HS [/quote]
Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL
[/quote]Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL
Dan V
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[quote="austour" post=279007][quote="Dan V" post=278916][quote="austour" post=278886][quote="Dan V" post=278786][quote="austour" post=278783]182, 212, and 218 coming in vs 145, 228 and Earlinton. Let's be honest, neither killed it with incoming frosh.[/quote]Where was Desi Rodriguez ranked in HS [/quote]
Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL[/quote] My argument wasnt comparing the two, it was that until these guys step on the court you can't really say how good of a class it is smart guy.
[/quote]Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL[/quote] My argument wasnt comparing the two, it was that until these guys step on the court you can't really say how good of a class it is smart guy.
[quote="Dan V" post=279050][quote="austour" post=279007][quote="Dan V" post=278916][quote="austour" post=278886][quote="Dan V" post=278786][quote="austour" post=278783]182, 212, and 218 coming in vs 145, 228 and Earlinton. Let's be honest, neither killed it with incoming frosh.[/quote]Where was Desi Rodriguez ranked in HS [/quote]
Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL[/quote] My argument wasnt comparing the two, it was that until these guys step on the court you can't really say how good of a class it is smart guy.[/quote]
Of course you can. You never know absolutely but just like anything in life you can make assumptions based on factors that are readily apparent. And what's readily apparent is that none of the new players next year are likely to be difference makers. Hopefully most of them can be productive role players and the team be good enough to not have to play Wednesday in the BET riding Shamorie, Marv and Simon. And hopefully some difference makers will come in the 2019 class.
[/quote]Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL[/quote] My argument wasnt comparing the two, it was that until these guys step on the court you can't really say how good of a class it is smart guy.[/quote]
Of course you can. You never know absolutely but just like anything in life you can make assumptions based on factors that are readily apparent. And what's readily apparent is that none of the new players next year are likely to be difference makers. Hopefully most of them can be productive role players and the team be good enough to not have to play Wednesday in the BET riding Shamorie, Marv and Simon. And hopefully some difference makers will come in the 2019 class.
Dan V
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[quote="austour" post=279101][quote="Dan V" post=279050][quote="austour" post=279007][quote="Dan V" post=278916][quote="austour" post=278886][quote="Dan V" post=278786][quote="austour" post=278783]182, 212, and 218 coming in vs 145, 228 and Earlinton. Let's be honest, neither killed it with incoming frosh.[/quote]Where was Desi Rodriguez ranked in HS [/quote]
Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL[/quote] My argument wasnt comparing the two, it was that until these guys step on the court you can't really say how good of a class it is smart guy.[/quote]
Of course you can. You never know absolutely but just like anything in life you can make assumptions based on factors that are readily apparent. And what's readily apparent is that none of the new players next year are likely to be difference makers. Hopefully most of them can be productive role players and the team be good enough to not have to play Wednesday in the BET riding Shamorie, Marv and Simon. And hopefully some difference makers will come in the 2019 class.[/quote] I see what you mean, I was thinking more along the lines of their entire time in college not just their freshman years. Also let me clarify I think Seton Halls class is underrated rankings wise and they did much better than we did with this 18 class. They got guys with skill sets that fit their needs and style of play, which is far more important than HS rankings. I like Williams,Roberts and Diakite they are high level athletes and should be good players if they develop properly. Earlington I'm not so sure of, he might not be a Big East level player but we will see. The thing about our class is we didn't fill any our biggest holes. We need a bigger post player who can bang and hit the boards. We could also use a taller wing player who can catch and shoot and play perimeter defense. A stretch forward wouldn't hurt either. We got pretty much none of those with this class. Seems like we just took whoever was willing to come. So while our classes are similarly ranked imo they had a better class.
[/quote]Citing exceptions to disprove obvious rules is a sure way to failure.[/quote]What rules? HS rankings? Do I need to make a list of guys who have succeeded as lower ranked players?[/quote]
Do I need to make a list of kids who didn't? Do I have to analyze the success rate of top 100 players vs. the success rate of 200-300 players? Do I have to participate in this ridiculousness? LOL[/quote] My argument wasnt comparing the two, it was that until these guys step on the court you can't really say how good of a class it is smart guy.[/quote]
Of course you can. You never know absolutely but just like anything in life you can make assumptions based on factors that are readily apparent. And what's readily apparent is that none of the new players next year are likely to be difference makers. Hopefully most of them can be productive role players and the team be good enough to not have to play Wednesday in the BET riding Shamorie, Marv and Simon. And hopefully some difference makers will come in the 2019 class.[/quote] I see what you mean, I was thinking more along the lines of their entire time in college not just their freshman years. Also let me clarify I think Seton Halls class is underrated rankings wise and they did much better than we did with this 18 class. They got guys with skill sets that fit their needs and style of play, which is far more important than HS rankings. I like Williams,Roberts and Diakite they are high level athletes and should be good players if they develop properly. Earlington I'm not so sure of, he might not be a Big East level player but we will see. The thing about our class is we didn't fill any our biggest holes. We need a bigger post player who can bang and hit the boards. We could also use a taller wing player who can catch and shoot and play perimeter defense. A stretch forward wouldn't hurt either. We got pretty much none of those with this class. Seems like we just took whoever was willing to come. So while our classes are similarly ranked imo they had a better class.
[quote="Paultzman" post=279353]http://depauliaonline.com/34283/sports/developing-story-ncaa-investigates-depaul-athletics/
Ironic if true[/quote]
The NCAA needs a sacrifice to save face and protect its gang of recruiting criminals (LOU, AZ, UCONN, KY, et al), so it picks on DePaul?!!? What caustic crap. Hope we’re not ‘next’!
Ironic if true[/quote]
The NCAA needs a sacrifice to save face and protect its gang of recruiting criminals (LOU, AZ, UCONN, KY, et al), so it picks on DePaul?!!? What caustic crap. Hope we’re not ‘next’!