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Let's try to stay on topic, folks. If you want to talk about DePaul's advantages vs SJU, the Structural Challenges thread would probably be the place for that.
This also isn't the thread to rehash the prior coach tenures. The jobs Juwan Howard and Ewing are doing is relevant because they are "around college basketball 20/21 season."
With regard to those two, my opinion is that Howard is succeding because (1) his name and reputation are a draw, especially at Michigan, (2) he's doing the work; and (3) he was wise enough to bring in a professional coach with a ton of experience since he doesn't have any and (IMHO) actual coaching is important even if you bring in the talent. If you don't do the work and you don't know how to coach, then your name and reputation aren't going to get it done (see Mullin, Drexler).
WRT to Ewing, he has the same 3 things going for him as Howard, plus he cut his coaching teeth some in the NBA before he came back to Georgetown. Unlike Howard he didn't inherit a program that was recently in the national title game, and he's clearly made some poor decisions with the players he's brought in which has caused a lot of turnover in that program. However to the eye test (at least my eye), he can absolutely coach and he has kept the current team a lot more competitive than they should be based on that roster. The test for him will be the next 2 years to see what he can do with the talented class he has coming in.
With Howard, I'm taking the Jamie Dixon view for now - Dixon inherited a machine from Howland, so the first couple of years it's hard to decide how much credit to give him. But after a couple of years, it became clear that Dixon was a good coach in his own right and he kept Pitt at the same level as Howland had it for many years. An opposite comparison would be Brian Mahoney, who looked good and recruited well while he was riding the remainder of Louie's wave, after which it became clear that he couldn't do it in his own right.
It certainly looks like Howard is going to be more in the Dixon mold than the Mahoney one, but IMHO we won't know for sure for another year or so.
This also isn't the thread to rehash the prior coach tenures. The jobs Juwan Howard and Ewing are doing is relevant because they are "around college basketball 20/21 season."
With regard to those two, my opinion is that Howard is succeding because (1) his name and reputation are a draw, especially at Michigan, (2) he's doing the work; and (3) he was wise enough to bring in a professional coach with a ton of experience since he doesn't have any and (IMHO) actual coaching is important even if you bring in the talent. If you don't do the work and you don't know how to coach, then your name and reputation aren't going to get it done (see Mullin, Drexler).
WRT to Ewing, he has the same 3 things going for him as Howard, plus he cut his coaching teeth some in the NBA before he came back to Georgetown. Unlike Howard he didn't inherit a program that was recently in the national title game, and he's clearly made some poor decisions with the players he's brought in which has caused a lot of turnover in that program. However to the eye test (at least my eye), he can absolutely coach and he has kept the current team a lot more competitive than they should be based on that roster. The test for him will be the next 2 years to see what he can do with the talented class he has coming in.
With Howard, I'm taking the Jamie Dixon view for now - Dixon inherited a machine from Howland, so the first couple of years it's hard to decide how much credit to give him. But after a couple of years, it became clear that Dixon was a good coach in his own right and he kept Pitt at the same level as Howland had it for many years. An opposite comparison would be Brian Mahoney, who looked good and recruited well while he was riding the remainder of Louie's wave, after which it became clear that he couldn't do it in his own right.
It certainly looks like Howard is going to be more in the Dixon mold than the Mahoney one, but IMHO we won't know for sure for another year or so.
I find it interesting how all the guys who gush over rutgers and pikiell dont speak up when they lose.. They have looked bad lately especially offensively. Sure their schedule has gotten tougher but that didnt stop the gushing over the early part and the easier schedule.
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Sharif Cooper is the 5-star freshman PG for Auburn. These are highlights from a few nights ago. He had 28pts, 12 Ast, 5Rbs in his second college game against Georgia. Enjoy the highlights, the assists specifically are impressive. He is the type of kid that takes you deep in the tournament.
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Shouldn't they be though? It's Pikell's 5th year there, and only Anderson's 2nd here. Not to mention, that he was 44-54 his first 3 years there. Plus, they're a state school with all that Big 10 football money.lawmanfan" post=412875 said:
I've been critical of Anderson, and I'm very skeptical that he can take us to high levels (I'm skeptical anyone can, TBH), but to say that he has not done the job Pikell has is not fair, IMO.
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for those who were around in the mid-70s, Rutgers was as hated as Syracuse and UCONN (eventually). So, I have never rooted for Rutgers. That said, nice local college bball story. I would draw the analogy between this team and Lavin's 1st team. Lots of experience,SJU61982" post=413190 said:
Deleted. Should have been in the Around the Big East thread.
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ASU/Bobby Hurley, from cbssports.com -
Arizona State's skid continues
Arizona State has two potential first-round talents in Joshua Christopher and Marcus Bagley, as well as an All-Pac-12 caliber talent in Remy Martin. Yet the results in Tempe continue to fall short of the amassed talent level, as ASU dropped a surprising one Saturday with an 80-79 road loss to Oregon State. It's the Sun Devils' fourth straight loss, and one that drops it ever-closer to the basement of the league standings. They're one of only two teams in the league who have just one Pac-12 win on their resume, and if not for Washington (1-11, 0-7 Pac-12), they very well could be the cellar-dwellar in a season where they were picked in the preseason to finish second behind UCLA.
Arizona State's skid continues
Arizona State has two potential first-round talents in Joshua Christopher and Marcus Bagley, as well as an All-Pac-12 caliber talent in Remy Martin. Yet the results in Tempe continue to fall short of the amassed talent level, as ASU dropped a surprising one Saturday with an 80-79 road loss to Oregon State. It's the Sun Devils' fourth straight loss, and one that drops it ever-closer to the basement of the league standings. They're one of only two teams in the league who have just one Pac-12 win on their resume, and if not for Washington (1-11, 0-7 Pac-12), they very well could be the cellar-dwellar in a season where they were picked in the preseason to finish second behind UCLA.
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No sour grapes on my part but happy we have CMA as opposed to Bobby Hurley. I firmly believe CMA is the superior coach.nycfan" post=413286 said: