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SJU85 said:
Big 12 schools do not want a basketball only component despite the push from their Commissione.
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Maybe not now when there are still Power football teams becoming available, but once the dust settles and it'd mean them getting the MSG tournament + ~10 additional MSG from us annually then I could see it happening. Seems that most conferences just can't sit still anymore and always need to be in attack mode.
 
ADORAZ said:
Maybe not now when there are still Power football teams becoming available, but once the dust settles and it'd mean them getting the MSG tournament + ~10 additional MSG from us annually then I could see it happening. Seems that most conferences just can't sit still anymore and always need to be in attack mode.
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And most importantly, once BY splits up the football and basketball contracts, Fox tells the Presidents & ADs a media rights number for the basketball contract with half of the Big East + Gonzaga and a media rights number without them. With the most valuable properties in the Big East, that number will be bigger and not dilute that share. That's also not even thinking of the universities being able to expand their recruiting net to kids in NYC/DC/Philly.

At some point, Fox will want to consolidate their resources as well. Unfortunately, that may come at an expense of the Big East.
 
kranmars said:
The Big 10 doesn’t want to be predatory? Oh dear Lord their pomposity is endless.
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The bottom line is that the B1G has the ability to be selective.

You can bet that Colorado would have jumped at the opportunity to join the B1G rather than the B12 since the B1G would offer more money and better academic partnerships.

The issue the B1G must contend with is how big it wants to become. The B1G wants to be able to absorb a handful of ACC schools when the ACC falls apart as predicted (ie one or more Florida schools, possibly UNC and academic blue blood UVA, and/ or others).

Note this is also the second time Yukon was turned down for B12 membership.
 
dk423 said:
Is there indication Utah is going to the Big 12, outside of it being the smart thing to do?
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The indication is that the AZ schools are tied together by their board of regents and they have also chosen to tie themselves to Utah. Not sure it will work out that way in the end but that's the present posture.
 
If Utah could somehow score a Big 10 invite, Big 10 could go to three divisions of seven teams. (I'm assuming Stanford and Cal are just a matter of time.)
 
L J S A said:
If Utah could somehow score a Big 10 invite, Big 10 could go to three divisions of seven teams. (I'm assuming Stanford and Cal are just a matter of time.)
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Stanford and Cal are repetitive for the Big10, not sure how that helps them. Oregon and Washington makes sense, then I think they go after ACC schools/markets
 
L J S A said:
Two of the best schools in the country are repetitive? Thought Big 10 prided themselves on academics.
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Yes they are repetitive as the Big 10 already has the two biggest California schools in USC and UCLA. Berkeley and Palo Alto are farther north than LA but the PAC 10 desires different markets than Cal hence Oregon and Washington. The academic angle loses steam with Nebraska as a member.
 
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austour said:
LA and Bay Area are distinctly separate markets. Like two different states if not countries.
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This isn't about how distinctly different Bay Area is from LA... With UCLA and USC they get Bay Area coverage, don't need a school to physically sit in that geographic area to appease the networks.
 
Money said:
Really? You want to argue that the reason they are looking to further expand is to better align themselves with 'like minded academic schools'. If that was the case why not Stanford and Cal over Oregon and Washington?
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I do think they should take Stanford and Cal over Oregon and Washington, so you are barking up the wrong tree there.
 
SJU85 said:
The academic angle loses steam with Nebraska as a member.
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Which is why I endorse booting them from the conference or at least holding the door open for them and giving them a pat on the back every time they are brought up on the board. They suck and bring nothing to the table. I bet they wish they could join the Big 12.
 
Money said:
This isn't about how distinctly different Bay Area is from LA... With UCLA and USC they get Bay Area coverage, don't need a school to physically sit in that geographic area to appease the networks.
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You'll capture the Bay Area market with Boston College just as much as USC. Boston transplants are everywhere here.
 
Money said:
This isn't about how distinctly different Bay Area is from LA... With UCLA and USC they get Bay Area coverage, don't need a school to physically sit in that geographic area to appease the networks.
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They are totally different media markets. Are there more UCLA or USC grads in SFO than say Houston? Probably. Just like there are more Ohio State grads in Detroit than Tulsa. But it's not like there is any high level affinity for the SoCal schools in the Norcal markets. It's like arguing that you wouldn't want a team in DC because you already have a team in NY. And SFO and LA are both top 6 media markets in the US so both markets offer high value to the B1G. If you want to argue that there's not the level of affinity for Cal and Stanford in the Bay Area that the B1G might want that might be an argument, though I think it would be incorrect.
 
I am sure Arizona St won't be far behind (Both are state schools controlled by AZ Board of Regents I am sure they want to make sure BOTH go) but this is probably the offical death knell of the PAC12:

 
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