Anderson - is he really the guy ?

Duke of Earlington post=460631 said:
If Anderson does get canned, what happens to Storr and King?  Do they both now have the option to renege on their signing and are free to go elsewhere?
That usually is what happens, but doubt MA gets canned. Storr’s mom was at DePaul game yesterday btw. Hopefully that is a positive :)
 
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Having “athletic” players or 5 star players is way overrated. Need to recruit players who are fundamentally sound and more importantly understand the game. From what I’ve seen this year, they’ve made plenty of bonehead passes, decisions and broken plays to justify my theory. Can’t win on 5 stars alone. Kentucky proved that theory.
 
Mario post=460641 said:
Having “athletic” players or 5 star players is way overrated. Need to recruit players who are fundamentally sound and more importantly understand the game. From what I’ve seen this year, they’ve made plenty of bonehead passes, decisions and broken plays to justify my theory. Can’t win on 5 stars alone. Kentucky proved that theory.
 

Sounds like you (like me) prefer more structured old-fashioned basketball.  That's a different conversation, though.  Unless you think Anderson is going to fundamentally change his approach to play the kind of game we prefer, it will be tough for him to win if he doesn't get players who fit what he wants to do or at least make a few more adjustments.
 
Lack of athleticism on our team. Three guards who are built like football players and lack speed. Champ and Soriano slow. Too many bricklayers. Lack of fundamentals. Broken record - We don’t do anything well because we have no Big East caliber players.
 
Mario post=460641 said:
Having “athletic” players or 5 star players is way overrated. Need to recruit players who are fundamentally sound and more importantly understand the game. From what I’ve seen this year, they’ve made plenty of bonehead passes, decisions and broken plays to justify my theory. Can’t win on 5 stars alone. Kentucky proved that theory.
Totally agree.  I would absolutely hate to be like the Kentucky's or Duke's of the world.......
 
Jeff Smith post=460650 said:
Broken record - We don’t do anything well because we have no Big East caliber players.
 

Obviously that's an overstatement.  The team has Big East players and has been competitive in the Big East.  It's come up short in numerous close games, and that's the element that needs to be analyzed.  It may not have ENOUGH Big East players, or it may not have enough players who are able to play the way Anderson wants to play, or it may be a failure to adjust/adapt by the coach to maximize the talents of the players he has, or it may be some of all three. 
 
lawmanfan post=460642 said:
Mario post=460641 said:
Having “athletic” players or 5 star players is way overrated. Need to recruit players who are fundamentally sound and more importantly understand the game. From what I’ve seen this year, they’ve made plenty of bonehead passes, decisions and broken plays to justify my theory. Can’t win on 5 stars alone. Kentucky proved that theory.

 

Sounds like you (like me) prefer more structured old-fashioned basketball.  That's a different conversation, though.  Unless you think Anderson is going to fundamentally change his approach to play the kind of game we prefer, it will be tough for him to win if he doesn't get players who fit what he wants to do or at least make a few more adjustments.

I will say it again, you win games by scoring more points and you score points by putting the ball in the basket. Especially from three. The three point shot has become such an integral part of the game. You need guys who score and bang down shots. Give me shooters. You can’t start a point guard and a shooting guard who can’t hit 3’s with some type of consistency. Neither one of them can shoot. You can’t win consistently starting those two guys. I don’t care how good they are defensively or how much they hustle etc. Then you bring a guy like Wusu off the bench who also can’t shoot and you’re done. These guys miss layups also. Plus our free throw shooting has been horrendous this season. Go out and get guys who shoot the ball!! I don’t care if they’re not that athletic etc. I can find a way defensively, changing zones etc. just get shooters and the ability to bang down shots will alleviate whatever other deficiencies we would have.
 
The problem with coach is that he doesn't change tempo. He's brutal the last 4 minutes of a game. A better skilled coach would have won an additional 4-5 games.
 
I’m of the belief that the pressing system can work - but requires depth, athleticism and commitment. We have enough of the 1st 2 to be effective. But, commitment is where we fall short. The approach requires pedal to the metal while pressing and more so when the opposition breaks the press. 

it’s this last part where we feel really short and compounded by lackadaisical half court defense. All too many times I see some (not all) of our guys jogging back when a full sprint is in order. Once in the half court, we don’t make the offense uncomfortable and bite on every shot fake when blocked shots on the perimeter are few and far between. Bottom line, our half court defense is more often than not like what one would see in a pickup game. 

The good news is that these are readily addressable - but necessitate a ZERO TOLERANCE approach. Not the only area requiring fixin’ but an area that is not totally dependent on skill.


 
 
I think we have more trouble vs. the press then we give our opponents.
 
After the De Paul game I figured that’s the season but these last few games could have a bearing on where SJU is heading. Prior to the season both Father Shanley and Mike Cragg gave statements of being optimistic about post season chances and their intention to release facility improvement and fund raising plans.
Now post season is out, the team shows little effort and the future appears bleak. The big east has solved the forty minutes of hell and Anderson doesn’t seem to have any alternate strategy. If there is no big improvement in the spring recruiting effort how can Shanley and Cragg seriously sell the so called casual SJU fan getting behind the effort to raise money to improve facilities when the program appears dead.
 
We need 3 pt shooters  at all positions and a strong center who can defend and get rebounds..Getting them is another problem.
 
 
CMA's system got him Big East COY last year and a lot of wins over his career. It's great when you have the right athletes who understand the system and do it with maximum effort. When done half ass, it fails. This year, it's been a half ass effort from start to finish.

I don't believe the Big East coaches suddenly figured it out. We lost all continuity with the transfers out, and brought in very experienced transfers perhaps too set in their ways to buy in. But with all that said, this team is dancing if our star did not have such a subpar season shooting the ball.  It's not about pining it on one guy. But since the star gets the accolades, they have to deal with the heat as well.
 
redmen70 post=460706 said:
We need 3 pt shooters  at all positions and a strong center who can defend and get rebounds..Getting them is another problem.

 


That's the Nova way. 
 
Enright post=460702 said:
After the De Paul game I figured that’s the season but these last few games could have a bearing on where SJU is heading. Prior to the season both Father Shanley and Mike Cragg gave statements of being optimistic about post season chances and their intention to release facility improvement and fund raising plans.
Now post season is out, the team shows little effort and the future appears bleak. The big east has solved the forty minutes of hell and Anderson doesn’t seem to have any alternate strategy. If there is no big improvement in the spring recruiting effort how can Shanley and Cragg seriously sell the so called casual SJU fan getting behind the effort to raise money to improve facilities when the program appears dead.
Maybe by naming the capital improvements initiative The Resurrection?
 
redmen70 post=460706 said:
We need 3 pt shooters  at all positions and a strong center who can defend and get rebounds..Getting them is another problem.

 
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On the positive side I believe center Joel Soriano, and his back ups Esahia Nyiwe, and O’Mar Stanley
showed positive progress during the later half of the Big East season.  

Assuming all 3 return to the St. John’s team next year the center position should not for the first time in many seasons be a major concern.
 
otis post=460714 said:
redmen70 post=460706 said:
We need 3 pt shooters  at all positions and a strong center who can defend and get rebounds..Getting them is another problem.


 
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On the positive side I believe center Joel Soriano, and his back ups Esahia Nyiwe, and O’Mar Stanley
showed positive progress during the later half of the Big East season.  

Assuming all 3 return to the St. John’s team next year the center position should not for the first time in many seasons be a major concern.

Soriano and  Nyiwe have improved.  Stanley had a breakthrough game against Creighton but I haven’t seen much improvement out of him beyond that.  Perhaps most problematic, I don’t think Soriano fits CMA’s style and I have concerns that he is not being utilized in a manner that maximizes his strengths.  In any event,  none of the three are world beaters and I think they will give us an average Big East front court next year at best.  Put simply, we’re not riding the current front court to the Big Dance any time soon,
 
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