Anderson - is he really the guy ?

Monte post=452637 said:
Man, the excuses and lame defenses for failure being used in this thread are not only absurd, they're not based in fact. The only fact I'll give you guys is that our facilities aren't every good, yet that hasn't stopped any other coach from recruiting well here. Coaching novices ran circles around CMA with the same facilities.  I love the "location" excuse, because Wisconsin in the middle of winter is an ideal location for Shaka Smart to recruit to?  It's all nonsense and spin. The best thing about the day CMA departs will be that he takes his groupies with him. 

hey Monte I guess you don’t like him
 
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SJU will really look more like a laughing stock if it fires Anderson over next 3 years.  I do not think changing coaches every 4-5 years has been a plan that has worked out. 
 
Roamer post=452653 said:
SJU will really look more like a laughing stock if it fires Anderson over next 3 years.  I do not think changing coaches every 4-5 years has been a plan that has worked out. 
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It'd be really difficult to top our last coaching search in terms of negative press coverage (ironically our press coverage ended up being worse than when Iona hired Pitino, something we could've done day 1). If we don't start winning soon and our attendance drops even further in a few months or years then I'd imagine the school will take the necessary 24 hour PR hit if the financial projections of a new coach would be worthwhile.

Regarding switching coaches every 4-5 years I do tend to agree and in hindsight Lavin should've been extended, but CMA has to start showing some signs of life here either on the court or the recruiting trail.
 
Anderson has been hurt because of the adoption of the transfer portal and the decision of the SJU players to leave. While the transfers in are probably a more talented group than those leaving there has been an obvious effect on the SJU strategy of pressure defense.
Pressure defense was such a major part of SJUs game plan for the prior two years and hid a lot of the half court offensive problems SJU had and that’s not the case this year. Losing Dunn, Williams and even McGriff seems to have taken the pressure defense off the SJU table this year.
I have no idea if Anderson tried to keep Dunn or Williams but their style of play has been missed.
 
redmannorth post=452649 said:
Proud Alumn post=452636 said:
 
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Lavin had three good players committed who de-committed after he was fired. He also did the recruiting of Lovett and Mussini. He was also hampered in recruiting by the public uncertainty as to whether he would have been fired. I thought the University made a mistake not giving Lavin a solid two-year commitment instead of firing him. He had recruiting ability, had a good staff, had some success on the court (albeit with big ups and downs), and represented the school well.
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The Revisionist history I am reading is so far from reality it is frightening.
Lavin had no one committed, no one that would have played  the following season. 
The kid from Louisiana was already publicly wavering and the kid who wound up at Auburn was ineligible.
The recruiting uncertainty came out very late and did not hinder the November Class where 80% of the top recruits sign. 
You thought they made a mistake  great, but he never got another bball job because everyone knew he was done as a coach.
He had lost all recruiting ability after his second class, he struck out for three years thereafter. His staff was busy making porno films lest you forget, signing recruits with doctored transcripts in the parking lot in the middle of the night, having players beating the crap out of one another in the shower room, ineligible for the biggest game of their life as they had no respect for the staff or their was a lack of institutional control, you can take your pick which one it was.
Did he have some big success year 1 with Norm's players yes he did. I will certainly agree to that and he was also very involved in the recruiting of Mussini and Lovett. 
Represented the school well, what a subjective statement. 
I could go on but won't.       
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He had three commitments from good players who de-committed after he was fired. FACT
Lavin was considered to be on the hot seat pretty much his entire last season. There are articles saying such as far back as October 2014. FACT
I consider the way Lavin handled and helped D'Angelo Harrison to be quite admirable, the fight in the shower was when Mullin was coach, and Lavin has been gracious when discussing St. John's even after his firing. 
 
Proud Alumn post=452611 said:
Beast of the East post=452597 said:
MSP710 post=452594 said:
I had a conversation with Fr. Shanley over the summer at the golf outing. When he was running Providence, 11% of alumni were making contributions to the school. At SJU its 1%. How they don't have their most visible and perhaps wealthiest alumni in the fold is beyond me. I don't know what's happened behind the scenes, but with a new president I would hope someone has reached out to him to see what he wants for his money. 

I honestly feel like we're more of a A10 mid major right now. It seems like every time something good is poised to happen, we lose or footing. 
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I don't know how much you were both drinking, or if you misheard, but our giving rating is about 4% to my knowledge.    Still not good, but not 1%
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The University has done a poor job with alumni outreach. I helped run an alumni association for one of the schools a few years ago and we started some events and activities and fund raising, but it fell apart because the school gave us practically zero support. They didn't seem to understand that we were all volunteers doing this outside of our day jobs and that we couldn't by ourselves staff and run big events. 
Hopefully Shanley and Cragg have through experience better ways to get the donations needed to improve the facilities. Doing that should make a big difference.
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How long ago was this is effort and who were you working with at sju? PM me.
 
salty dog post=452651 said:
Monte post=452637 said:
Man, the excuses and lame defenses for failure being used in this thread are not only absurd, they're not based in fact. The only fact I'll give you guys is that our facilities aren't every good, yet that hasn't stopped any other coach from recruiting well here. Coaching novices ran circles around CMA with the same facilities.  I love the "location" excuse, because Wisconsin in the middle of winter is an ideal location for Shaka Smart to recruit to?  It's all nonsense and spin. The best thing about the day CMA departs will be that he takes his groupies with him. 

hey Monte I guess you don’t like him

 
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What would ever give you that idea? /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png In all seriousness, I never thought CMA was the right man for this job, and I think that even more so now. I just have a really hard time listening to excuses for failure. Losers always have excuses, winners have challenges to overcome.  I still think it's much to early to call for a coaching change, in spite of my doubts about CMA. 
 
Coach has got to go.

Didn't know what he had in Wheeler or even Coburn


Just kidding

Nice W coach...just do more of it.
 
Gotta give coach credit for going back to what he is known for.  The 40 minutes of hell returned.  Just have no clue why he waited half a season to play this way.
 
Duke of Earlington post=453065 said:
Gotta give coach credit for going back to what he is known for.  The 40 minutes of hell returned.  Just have no clue why he waited half a season to play this way.
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Wasn't it enough to create a new thread to post the exact same thing?
 
Beast of the East post=453069 said:
Duke of Earlington post=453065 said:
Gotta give coach credit for going back to what he is known for.  The 40 minutes of hell returned.  Just have no clue why he waited half a season to play this way.
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Wasn't it enough to create a new thread to post the exact same thing?
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LOL, he's asked the same thing in 3 threads now and people have already answered him.  
 
Wait, I thought we had no chance to win because Willard’s superior coaching could never be overcome by Anderson’s putrid, pathetic lack of ability to coach a team to a win against a superior coach? I mean, Willard had a better 247 rating with last year’s recruiting class. Tonight’s Anderson-coached team dominating all aspects of the game was just impossible, or something. 
 
Tonight, Anderson seemed to have a "come to Jesus" moment WRT offense.

Specifically, if Coburn is hitting shots, who cares if he gets beat once in a while on defense?  As long as it doesn't happen too often.

 On Saturday, he hit a 3, got beat on defense, and immediately got taken out.  That did nothing to solve our offensive problems in that game. He was doing the same thing with Wheeler pre-Big East.  The time for those kind of messages is over. 

Even during the timeouts, when he was mike'd, he talked about offense.  Oh, he mentioned staying strong defensively, but he also talked about movement (both with and without the ball), shot selection, making their defense work, etc.

Maybe Saturday's game made him realize that, while the pressure D is the trademark of this team, that the offense needed a little more attention then he was giving it (actually, a lot more, but there was only so much that could be done in 2 days). 

If players like Coburn and Smith make us a tad weaker defensively, but better offensively with outside shooting, that will make us a better team overall, IMO (if they're making shots, that opens the interior for Soriano, and makes it easier for Posh, Wheeler, and eventually, Julian).  My guess is that, in general, Anderson does not like to make that trade-off.  Give him credit for realizing that he had to change, somewhat.
 
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Duke of Earlington post=453121 said:
A win on the road vs Nova would go along way in CMA getting back into alot of our good graces.
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Or split next two, then getting on a mini roll v less than stellar BE teams moves the needle for me. 
 
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