2nd Creighton Game

[redfan259999888]

I hope the six threes don't convince Jordan he is a jump shooter. I have no problem with him shooting set shots--especially inside-out looks, but I think he really hurts us when he forces treys. He took mostly good shots tonight, but he did make a few that he should't have taken on a day he wasn't so hot.

Get the next low hanging fruit against Depaul. I'm starting to think these guys will sweep Xavier. One game at a time.

Forget sweeping X
How about beating DePaul and and splitting @ X and G-Town, if we could do that then look at the last 5.
Is it worth looking at the last 5 if we're 5-8? To me at that point it comes down to the B.E. Tournament. We'd have to finish 4-1 just to finish 9-9.
Stop looking ahead and focus on DePaul and get our first streak of the B.E. season.

 

[room112]

http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-scores-career-high-25-in-st-johns-victory-school-doesnt-make-him-available-to-media-again/

BS from Lavin. How does talking to the media for 20 minutes after a game hinder his ability to focus on academics? Letting him prance around on social media for a while probably hurt his focus more than talking to the media would

100% agree with you.

 

[Jack Williams]

I hope the six threes don't convince Jordan he is a jump shooter. I have no problem with him shooting set shots--especially inside-out looks, but I think he really hurts us when he forces treys. He took mostly good shots tonight, but he did make a few that he should't have taken on a day he wasn't so hot.

Get the next low hanging fruit against Depaul. I'm starting to think these guys will sweep Xavier. One game at a time.

Forget sweeping X
How about beating DePaul and and splitting @ X and G-Town, if we could do that then look at the last 5.
Is it worth looking at the last 5 if we're 5-8? To me at that point it comes down to the B.E. Tournament. We'd have to finish 4-1 just to finish 9-9.
Stop looking ahead and focus on DePaul and get our first streak of the B.E. season.

Why forget sweeping X? Why forget any possibility? Just take it one game at a time and let it play out. I've learned recently that with the inconsistency of this team, predicting what they will do is pointless. What if they got really hot down the stretch and win every game? What if they get ice cold and lose every game? You just have to wait. Beat DePaul and start a rally. Predictions have failed us all season

 

[Knight]

http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-scores-career-high-25-in-st-johns-victory-school-doesnt-make-him-available-to-media-again/

BS from Lavin. How does talking to the media for 20 minutes after a game hinder his ability to focus on academics? Letting him prance around on social media for a while probably hurt his focus more than talking to the media would

100% agree with you.

No need to put the kid in a position to explain himself further regarding his online posts.
Too bad. The media will miss a few quotes.

 

[Jack Williams]

http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-scores-career-high-25-in-st-johns-victory-school-doesnt-make-him-available-to-media-again/

BS from Lavin. How does talking to the media for 20 minutes after a game hinder his ability to focus on academics? Letting him prance around on social media for a while probably hurt his focus more than talking to the media would

100% agree with you.

No need to put the kid in a position to explain himself further regarding his online posts.
Too bad. The media will miss a few quotes.

Yes but this has been implemented since he stepped on campus. It wasn't something Lavin put into place after rysheed tweeted a gay slur. This has been ongoing and honestly a head scratcher

 

[Marillac]

I hope the six threes don't convince Jordan he is a jump shooter. I have no problem with him shooting set shots--especially inside-out looks, but I think he really hurts us when he forces treys. He took mostly good shots tonight, but he did make a few that he should't have taken on a day he wasn't so hot.

Get the next low hanging fruit against Depaul. I'm starting to think these guys will sweep Xavier. One game at a time.

Forget sweeping X
How about beating DePaul and and splitting @ X and G-Town, if we could do that then look at the last 5.
Is it worth looking at the last 5 if we're 5-8? To me at that point it comes down to the B.E. Tournament. We'd have to finish 4-1 just to finish 9-9.
Stop looking ahead and focus on DePaul and get our first streak of the B.E. season.

First of all, don't tell me to stop looking ahead. I am a fan...that is what we do. We can't lose a game because I look past our next opponent. What a hypocrite. You are same poster that predicted an undefeated January.

Second, yes it is worth looking at the next five games if somehow we fall to 5-8. We started 0-5 last year and finished 10-8. There is also the Big East tournament. We could fall to 5-8 and end up with 14 conference wins and a four or five seed (clearly not likely, but possible). I think 19 wins is the magic # with 20 removing all doubt.

 

[redfan259999888]

I hope the six threes don't convince Jordan he is a jump shooter. I have no problem with him shooting set shots--especially inside-out looks, but I think he really hurts us when he forces treys. He took mostly good shots tonight, but he did make a few that he should't have taken on a day he wasn't so hot.

Get the next low hanging fruit against Depaul. I'm starting to think these guys will sweep Xavier. One game at a time.

Forget sweeping X
How about beating DePaul and and splitting @ X and G-Town, if we could do that then look at the last 5.
Is it worth looking at the last 5 if we're 5-8? To me at that point it comes down to the B.E. Tournament. We'd have to finish 4-1 just to finish 9-9.
Stop looking ahead and focus on DePaul and get our first streak of the B.E. season.

First of all, don't tell me to stop looking ahead. I am a fan...that is what we do. We can't lose a game because I look past our next opponent. What a hypocrite. You are same poster that predicted an undefeated January.

Second, yes it is worth looking at the next five games if somehow we fall to 5-8. We started 0-5 last year and finished 10-8. There is also the Big East tournament. We could fall to 5-8 and end up with 14 conference wins and a four or five seed (clearly not likely, but possible). I think 19 wins is the magic # with 20 removing all doubt.

19 gets us in? lol ok Keep thinking that.

 

[ccnobz]

Just back, nice win keep it rolling. Jordan was unconscious from deep. Any news on Big Chris's ankle?

Probable for DP I read somewhere.

Thank you.

 

[room112]

I hope the six threes don't convince Jordan he is a jump shooter. I have no problem with him shooting set shots--especially inside-out looks, but I think he really hurts us when he forces treys. He took mostly good shots tonight, but he did make a few that he should't have taken on a day he wasn't so hot.

Get the next low hanging fruit against Depaul. I'm starting to think these guys will sweep Xavier. One game at a time.

Forget sweeping X
How about beating DePaul and and splitting @ X and G-Town, if we could do that then look at the last 5.
Is it worth looking at the last 5 if we're 5-8? To me at that point it comes down to the B.E. Tournament. We'd have to finish 4-1 just to finish 9-9.
Stop looking ahead and focus on DePaul and get our first streak of the B.E. season.

First of all, don't tell me to stop looking ahead. I am a fan...that is what we do. We can't lose a game because I look past our next opponent. What a hypocrite. You are same poster that predicted an undefeated January.

Second, yes it is worth looking at the next five games if somehow we fall to 5-8. We started 0-5 last year and finished 10-8. There is also the Big East tournament. We could fall to 5-8 and end up with 14 conference wins and a four or five seed (clearly not likely, but possible). I think 19 wins is the magic # with 20 removing all doubt.

19 gets us in? lol ok Keep thinking that.

Win total is the most irrelevant number you can use. It's all about RPI, who you beat and where you beat them.

 

[beast of the east]

Just got back.Fun game wasnt in the mood for nail biter.Dom was a beast in the 2nd half on D. Oh man that was so fun to watch

He needs to keep the fluffy hair look. Makes him look taller and it distracts the other team and I think the bounciness of the hair somehow made him shoot better

Fear the 'Fro!

Mo Fro !!!

Shining, gleaming, streaming, flaxen, waxen

 

[NYCRedmen]

Some shots from today

 

[fuchsia]

http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-scores-career-high-25-in-st-johns-victory-school-doesnt-make-him-available-to-media-again/

BS from Lavin. How does talking to the media for 20 minutes after a game hinder his ability to focus on academics? Letting him prance around on social media for a while probably hurt his focus more than talking to the media would

100% agree with you.

On social media you set the agenda, in front of the professional media you are facing reporters trained to probe and ask tough questions. Some times you just protect your kids for as long as you can.

 

[beast of the east]

re size of crowd: I'm at halfcourt in a low row in the 100's. It's nice having an empty seat on either side of me. Keep staying home guys. I miss the noise, but it's nice to have such a great view of the court and have plenty of elbow room.

Re: Harrison's injury. Watching him closely, he is still hurt. He barely jumps for rebounds, but it really doesn't affect his outside shot much. He can still take it to the hoop, but not with the same authority. Still hands down better than what would replace him on bench.

Re: Jordan: I've maintained he isn't a horrible outside shooter, as some here have contended. In the first half alone he nailed five threes, and showed as much fire on the court as I've seen, especially coming off the court when one of his bombs necessitated a time out.

Re: Teamwork. This team never ever ever looks to feed the hot hand. In some ways it's good, because in the first half, a few guys were making their shots, and honestly when Jordan wants to shoot the ball passed to him doesn't come back often. But still, when you are unconscious, your teammates have to look for you. Today even with 19 first half points, the didn't.

Re: Balamou. Amar was the obvious starter, especially against taller nonathletic big men. Obviously things worked out, but did we really want 4.5 guards out there most of the time?

Re; Pointer. Ben Wallace must be jealous or smiling.

Felix thing was a reward / punishment thing with him and Obekpa. They won so you will see that for at least one more game depending on Obekpa injury and how we do against Depaul

As anyone who reads this board with regularity knows I will criticize Lavin for just about everything but the weather and I am trying to figure an angle out for that but I fail to see how you can criticize him for starting Balamou with the start we got off to.

Basketball, as I posted the other day, is all about making your matchups tougher for your opponent than theirs are for you. In hindsight it worked, but you could almost see this Lavin move coming. We replaced out only legitimate big with a 6'4 small forward/guard. Their bigs didn't take us to town, but for a while most of their easy baskets came from their big guys, taking full advantage of the height differential. Take away Jordan's monster 1st half and its a much closer game.

Balamou certainly doesn't hurt you out there and you wonder why he doesn't get at least 6-7 minutes per game. HE jumps through the roof, and has a soft soft within 12 feet.

 

[romiSJU]

Some shots from today

Thank you. Love the last one of dom and dlo.

 

[SJU14]

re size of crowd: I'm at halfcourt in a low row in the 100's. It's nice having an empty seat on either side of me. Keep staying home guys. I miss the noise, but it's nice to have such a great view of the court and have plenty of elbow room.

Re: Harrison's injury. Watching him closely, he is still hurt. He barely jumps for rebounds, but it really doesn't affect his outside shot much. He can still take it to the hoop, but not with the same authority. Still hands down better than what would replace him on bench.

Re: Jordan: I've maintained he isn't a horrible outside shooter, as some here have contended. In the first half alone he nailed five threes, and showed as much fire on the court as I've seen, especially coming off the court when one of his bombs necessitated a time out.

Re: Teamwork. This team never ever ever looks to feed the hot hand. In some ways it's good, because in the first half, a few guys were making their shots, and honestly when Jordan wants to shoot the ball passed to him doesn't come back often. But still, when you are unconscious, your teammates have to look for you. Today even with 19 first half points, the didn't.

Re: Balamou. Amar was the obvious starter, especially against taller nonathletic big men. Obviously things worked out, but did we really want 4.5 guards out there most of the time?

Re; Pointer. Ben Wallace must be jealous or smiling.

Felix thing was a reward / punishment thing with him and Obekpa. They won so you will see that for at least one more game depending on Obekpa injury and how we do against Depaul

As anyone who reads this board with regularity knows I will criticize Lavin for just about everything but the weather and I am trying to figure an angle out for that but I fail to see how you can criticize him for starting Balamou with the start we got off to.

Basketball, as I posted the other day, is all about making your matchups tougher for your opponent than theirs are for you. In hindsight it worked, but you could almost see this Lavin move coming. We replaced out only legitimate big with a 6'4 small forward/guard. Their bigs didn't take us to town, but for a while most of their easy baskets came from their big guys, taking full advantage of the height differential. Take away Jordan's monster 1st half and its a much closer game.

Balamou certainly doesn't hurt you out there and you wonder why he doesn't get at least 6-7 minutes per game. HE jumps through the roof, and has a soft soft within 12 feet.

Something I saw with Balamou today was his hustle on both ends of the floor. He had a nice drive to the hoop today but missed the layup. After Creighton got the rebound, they pushed the ball up to get a transition basket but Balamou sprinted faster than I've seen someone run and stopped the break. Did a perfect job of stopping them after he made a mistake.

Good to see him trying to earn his playing time by playing with a purpose and playing hard. He is also the most athletic/quickest kid I've seen in a long time.

 

[fun]

Creighton thoughts:http://www.bigeastboards.com/

 

[newsman13]

re size of crowd: I'm at halfcourt in a low row in the 100's. It's nice having an empty seat on either side of me. Keep staying home guys. I miss the noise, but it's nice to have such a great view of the court and have plenty of elbow room.

Re: Harrison's injury. Watching him closely, he is still hurt. He barely jumps for rebounds, but it really doesn't affect his outside shot much. He can still take it to the hoop, but not with the same authority. Still hands down better than what would replace him on bench.

Re: Jordan: I've maintained he isn't a horrible outside shooter, as some here have contended. In the first half alone he nailed five threes, and showed as much fire on the court as I've seen, especially coming off the court when one of his bombs necessitated a time out.

Re: Teamwork. This team never ever ever looks to feed the hot hand. In some ways it's good, because in the first half, a few guys were making their shots, and honestly when Jordan wants to shoot the ball passed to him doesn't come back often. But still, when you are unconscious, your teammates have to look for you. Today even with 19 first half points, the didn't.

Re: Balamou. Amar was the obvious starter, especially against taller nonathletic big men. Obviously things worked out, but did we really want 4.5 guards out there most of the time?

Re; Pointer. Ben Wallace must be jealous or smiling.

Felix thing was a reward / punishment thing with him and Obekpa. They won so you will see that for at least one more game depending on Obekpa injury and how we do against Depaul

As anyone who reads this board with regularity knows I will criticize Lavin for just about everything but the weather and I am trying to figure an angle out for that but I fail to see how you can criticize him for starting Balamou with the start we got off to.

Basketball, as I posted the other day, is all about making your matchups tougher for your opponent than theirs are for you. In hindsight it worked, but you could almost see this Lavin move coming. We replaced out only legitimate big with a 6'4 small forward/guard. Their bigs didn't take us to town, but for a while most of their easy baskets came from their big guys, taking full advantage of the height differential. Take away Jordan's monster 1st half and its a much closer game.

Balamou certainly doesn't hurt you out there and you wonder why he doesn't get at least 6-7 minutes per game. HE jumps through the roof, and has a soft soft within 12 feet.

Something I saw with Balamou today was his hustle on both ends of the floor. He had a nice drive to the hoop today but missed the layup. After Creighton got the rebound, they pushed the ball up to get a transition basket but Balamou sprinted faster than I've seen someone run and stopped the break. Did a perfect job of stopping them after he made a mistake.

Good to see him trying to earn his playing time by playing with a purpose and playing hard. He is also the most athletic/quickest kid I've seen in a long time.

I don't want to throw water on one of the most enjoyable wins of the season...but Balamou is in over his head. 2-10 bricklaying in a game where everyone was lights out doesn't give me confidence. Any more than five minutes for him is another "Lavin is waving the white flag again" move.

 

[firestorm]

http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-scores-career-high-25-in-st-johns-victory-school-doesnt-make-him-available-to-media-again/

BS from Lavin. How does talking to the media for 20 minutes after a game hinder his ability to focus on academics? Letting him prance around on social media for a while probably hurt his focus more than talking to the media would

100% agree with you.

On social media you set the agenda, in front of the professional media you are facing reporters trained to probe and ask tough questions. Some times you just protect your kids for as long as you can.

At the risk of facing the wrath of many fellow posters, this is one of the things about Lavin that occasionally gives me hope he might be the right guy to run our hoops program. I'm not saying it makes him a great basketball coach; I'm just suggesting that his schtick about about being a teacher/mentor/spiritual life coach to his kids is not a bad thing.

I don't know why Lavin keeps the barrier up between 'Sheed and the media, but I suspect 'Sheed's poor judgement with some of this Twitter posts may be a hint. So despite the hue and cry of the NY media, the fan base and Sheed himself, it seems Lavin is of the mind that this kid is better served by keeping him out of the media spotlight.

Now, if two years is not enough time to give a kid sufficient media training to handle a press conference, I'm not sure what that says. But I'll give Lavin the benefit of the doubt that this decision is made with the kid's best interests at heart. That's not a bad trait to have in college basketball program.

Of course, I'd be happier if he could be father figure and basketball genius...

 

[SJU14]

re size of crowd: I'm at halfcourt in a low row in the 100's. It's nice having an empty seat on either side of me. Keep staying home guys. I miss the noise, but it's nice to have such a great view of the court and have plenty of elbow room.

Re: Harrison's injury. Watching him closely, he is still hurt. He barely jumps for rebounds, but it really doesn't affect his outside shot much. He can still take it to the hoop, but not with the same authority. Still hands down better than what would replace him on bench.

Re: Jordan: I've maintained he isn't a horrible outside shooter, as some here have contended. In the first half alone he nailed five threes, and showed as much fire on the court as I've seen, especially coming off the court when one of his bombs necessitated a time out.

Re: Teamwork. This team never ever ever looks to feed the hot hand. In some ways it's good, because in the first half, a few guys were making their shots, and honestly when Jordan wants to shoot the ball passed to him doesn't come back often. But still, when you are unconscious, your teammates have to look for you. Today even with 19 first half points, the didn't.

Re: Balamou. Amar was the obvious starter, especially against taller nonathletic big men. Obviously things worked out, but did we really want 4.5 guards out there most of the time?

Re; Pointer. Ben Wallace must be jealous or smiling.

Felix thing was a reward / punishment thing with him and Obekpa. They won so you will see that for at least one more game depending on Obekpa injury and how we do against Depaul

As anyone who reads this board with regularity knows I will criticize Lavin for just about everything but the weather and I am trying to figure an angle out for that but I fail to see how you can criticize him for starting Balamou with the start we got off to.

Basketball, as I posted the other day, is all about making your matchups tougher for your opponent than theirs are for you. In hindsight it worked, but you could almost see this Lavin move coming. We replaced out only legitimate big with a 6'4 small forward/guard. Their bigs didn't take us to town, but for a while most of their easy baskets came from their big guys, taking full advantage of the height differential. Take away Jordan's monster 1st half and its a much closer game.

Balamou certainly doesn't hurt you out there and you wonder why he doesn't get at least 6-7 minutes per game. HE jumps through the roof, and has a soft soft within 12 feet.

Something I saw with Balamou today was his hustle on both ends of the floor. He had a nice drive to the hoop today but missed the layup. After Creighton got the rebound, they pushed the ball up to get a transition basket but Balamou sprinted faster than I've seen someone run and stopped the break. Did a perfect job of stopping them after he made a mistake.

Good to see him trying to earn his playing time by playing with a purpose and playing hard. He is also the most athletic/quickest kid I've seen in a long time.

I don't want to throw water on one of the most enjoyable wins of the season...but Balamou is in over his head. 2-10 bricklaying in a game where everyone was lights out doesn't give me confidence. Any more than five minutes for him is another "Lavin is waving the white flag again" move.

I'm not saying that he is going to be an elite scorer for this team, but the effort is something we need. With our top 6 giving 100% for much of the game, we need someone to give that same effort to give those guys a break. Defensively, we can out Balamou in there and not lose any confidence.

 

[Marillac]

re size of crowd: I'm at halfcourt in a low row in the 100's. It's nice having an empty seat on either side of me. Keep staying home guys. I miss the noise, but it's nice to have such a great view of the court and have plenty of elbow room.

Re: Harrison's injury. Watching him closely, he is still hurt. He barely jumps for rebounds, but it really doesn't affect his outside shot much. He can still take it to the hoop, but not with the same authority. Still hands down better than what would replace him on bench.

Re: Jordan: I've maintained he isn't a horrible outside shooter, as some here have contended. In the first half alone he nailed five threes, and showed as much fire on the court as I've seen, especially coming off the court when one of his bombs necessitated a time out.

Re: Teamwork. This team never ever ever looks to feed the hot hand. In some ways it's good, because in the first half, a few guys were making their shots, and honestly when Jordan wants to shoot the ball passed to him doesn't come back often. But still, when you are unconscious, your teammates have to look for you. Today even with 19 first half points, the didn't.

Re: Balamou. Amar was the obvious starter, especially against taller nonathletic big men. Obviously things worked out, but did we really want 4.5 guards out there most of the time?

Re; Pointer. Ben Wallace must be jealous or smiling.

Felix thing was a reward / punishment thing with him and Obekpa. They won so you will see that for at least one more game depending on Obekpa injury and how we do against Depaul

As anyone who reads this board with regularity knows I will criticize Lavin for just about everything but the weather and I am trying to figure an angle out for that but I fail to see how you can criticize him for starting Balamou with the start we got off to.

Basketball, as I posted the other day, is all about making your matchups tougher for your opponent than theirs are for you. In hindsight it worked, but you could almost see this Lavin move coming. We replaced out only legitimate big with a 6'4 small forward/guard. Their bigs didn't take us to town, but for a while most of their easy baskets came from their big guys, taking full advantage of the height differential. Take away Jordan's monster 1st half and its a much closer game.

Balamou certainly doesn't hurt you out there and you wonder why he doesn't get at least 6-7 minutes per game. HE jumps through the roof, and has a soft soft within 12 feet.

Something I saw with Balamou today was his hustle on both ends of the floor. He had a nice drive to the hoop today but missed the layup. After Creighton got the rebound, they pushed the ball up to get a transition basket but Balamou sprinted faster than I've seen someone run and stopped the break. Did a perfect job of stopping them after he made a mistake.

Good to see him trying to earn his playing time by playing with a purpose and playing hard. He is also the most athletic/quickest kid I've seen in a long time.

I don't want to throw water on one of the most enjoyable wins of the season...but Balamou is in over his head. 2-10 bricklaying in a game where everyone was lights out doesn't give me confidence. Any more than five minutes for him is another "Lavin is waving the white flag again" move.

I'm as big of a Balamou fan as there is, but I am not impressed with him this year. His confidence is completely destroyed. He is thinking instead of reacting. He gives you hustle, he give you athleticism and we won't dominate the ball, but he has no idea of his role on offense and he doesn't relax until after he makes his first good play. It's not even like he will get pulled if he makes a mistake...he'll go games without leaving the bench.

I'll never understand why Felix and Amar didn't play more earlier in the season.