I can literally walk to ubs but honestly prefer CA. To me, just getting to UBS and parking is a pain in the ass. I'll probably just uber back and forth. Easier and cheaper than parking.
That being said I love the sky's the limit mentality.
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That being said I love the sky's the limit mentality.
UBS is close for me too but, will have to see if I prefer it overall to CA. Hard to say off of one game. I like CA. But as you say, I’m up for the approach going on.
SJUWillRockNYC
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If the economy was good then paying more wouldn't be a thing, and I'm reading inflation will get alot worse this fall.
Last year every seat was $83 including the 300s, and this year will probably be over $100.
I'll go to 2-3 games this year (gotta try to get Ricks first msg game vs. Michigan, that will definitely be soldout, hopefully 80% - 20% us.
Rather go to more but not trying to kill my pockets.
Completely understand and sympathize. When I was a student, season tix for students was about $28, and Dennis Myron kept charging us student rates for several years beyond graduation. In 2006 I bought a 30 game season ticket plan for the Mets. I think at Shea Loge seats in Section 7 near the Mets batting circle came to less tgan $30 per ticket. They skyrocketed at citifield. College D1 basketball became a big time money grab that has squeezed new grads and young families from attending games. Our season ticket base has way more gray haired 50-75 year old than 25-50. That totally sucks because on a limited income I brought my kids up on sju basketball and that's no longer possible for anyone who is younger to do the same.
I’m with you, have literally walked home from UBS after a concert.
Rocket
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You must live very very close
For others who fear the parking situation, I have driven to the Hicksville LIRR station and take the train directly to the arena. Shuttle buses bring you to and from the arena.
I would love for us to play all Conference games at a bigger arena, just not UBS. I live about halfway between UBS and Campus. However, I would not have a problem traveling to Madison Square Garden for our Conference games and games against Power 5 teams, the LIRR is very accessible. When I go to games in the city with friends, we try to make a day of it. Get something to eat either before or after and then go home. It is not a matter of money, but of convenience. Personally, I find nothing attractive about UBS Arena.
Close but not close enough. About 10 Ubers bailed on us, we started walking and before I knew I was home.You must live very very close
For others who fear the parking situation, I have driven to the Hicksville LIRR station and take the train directly to the arena. Shuttle buses bring you to and from the arena.
I do not have much of a problem with a couple of games at UBS, and I am coming from the city.
Absolutely MSG is priority, but the LIRR is convenient for me to UBS. Gone with the family to a number of Islanders games and have not had any issues.
Same with Barclays. I do not like the aesthetics of the arena itself, but a game there is fine coming from the city.
For me, games on campus are a pain.
Besides, UBS is a nice place. The last line make you sound like an ornery Rangers fan.
At this stage in my life, the only team I follow is St Johns, lol.I do not have much of a problem with a couple of games at UBS, and I am coming from the city.
Absolutely MSG is priority, but the LIRR is convenient for me to UBS. Gone with the family to a number of Islanders games and have not had any issues.
Same with Barclays. I do not like the aesthetics of the arena itself, but a game there is fine coming from the city.
For me, games on campus are a pain.
Besides, UBS is a nice place. The last line make you sound like an ornery Rangers fan.
Nothing wrong with that. Keeps the focus on the big prize.
And at this stage of my life I am just ornery.
So much about getting to a venue for a SJU game for an individual is about proximity and simplicity. Fortunately for me I'm centrally located in Kew Gardens. I'm a mere seven minute drive to Carnesecca Arena with easy parking there and I am a fifteen minute ride on the LIRR or thirty minute ride on the Subway to Penn Station/MSG. I work in Bushwick so getting to the Barclay's Center after work is pretty easy and if the game is on a non-workday I can drive to my Sister's at Grand Army Plaza (thirty minute drive) park and take the Subway two stops (five minute ride) to the Barclay's Center. UBS is not a long drive (7 to 10 miles depending on the route I take) but for me I have to park outside on the street and walk in to the Arena (about a half mile) because I won't patronize the ripoff parking. This is no problem for me because I am excellent walker, but if I am taking people with me who struggle with their ability to ambulate, then it takes more advance planning to make it work.
Bottom line is on campus will always be my personal favorite place to see a game (easiest to get to and smallest and most intimate atmosphere) but each place has something different and I like mixing it up a bit anyway. No doubt that MSG is by far and away the nicest Venue Aesthetics wise, followed by UBS and then Barclay's Center a distant third, with Carnesecca (uncomfortable seats, heat and lighting issues and inferior confessions and restrooms) being at the bottom. That all said, I actually am glad that we have local venue options for the team to play at because it keeps things fresh and different.
Bottom line is on campus will always be my personal favorite place to see a game (easiest to get to and smallest and most intimate atmosphere) but each place has something different and I like mixing it up a bit anyway. No doubt that MSG is by far and away the nicest Venue Aesthetics wise, followed by UBS and then Barclay's Center a distant third, with Carnesecca (uncomfortable seats, heat and lighting issues and inferior confessions and restrooms) being at the bottom. That all said, I actually am glad that we have local venue options for the team to play at because it keeps things fresh and different.
I like the discussion about venues, and it is much nicer to have it when our sju outlook is positive.
To me our two main venues have to do with ghosts.
At the Garden, I feel the ghosts of the great Knick teams, the late Willis Reed and Dave DeBusschere, but also younger versions of Bradley, Frazier, Monroe, Barnett, Lucas, Russell eviscerating opponents before crowds that made the building shake. I hear Marv Alpert, Billie Joel, Sinatra, John Condon, and Howard Cosell "Down goes Frazier!! Down goes Frazier", ethereal figures of Ali and Joe in perhaps the greatest fight ever. Its Mark Messier hoisting the Cup, Rod Gilbert, Eddie Giacoman and countless others.
And MSG is literally the first home of our beloved Johnnies, from the days where campus was Brooklyn and we shared the Garden with this new professional basketball team - the old Garden of course. There are the ghosts of high school students on 15 cent subway rides sitting in the cheap seats for less than a dollar. And it's where we came of age battling Bobby Knights unbeaten Hoosiers to nearly a draw in a time where fans knew how to properly salute valiant Redmen losers who played the hearts out and asses off.
But Utopia parkway is my other home. Where ghosts of classmates and frat brothers, some who died way too young, still file in and cram the bleachers till we sat in the aisles and in violation of fire codes. Where we'd go home hoarse and that lingered through Monday morning at work. Where the student locker rooms still are the same in looks and smells (unfortunately). Where you could have a 2 hour class break and squueze in half a dozen half court games. Where the halls of marillac, st. Johns hall, or st als hasnt changed too much even as they've become elder statesmen on a campus that now sparkles with new stadiums and buildings. CA? Well I'm reminded how my older brother took me to my first sju game where we played Army and lost, where Army's coach was a young guy named Bobby Knight, his point guard Mike K-something and our coach a young short Italian guy who looked disheveled when the game started and a mess by game's end. I remember thinking how awesome it would be if someday I could go there. God must have been listening and in a good mood to make it happen a few years later. Incredibly i was offered a job there that changed my life. Most of my old friends are alums and many (you) of my newer friends too.
It's the place where this very smart and very pretty classmate helped me through pharmacology and pharmacognosy by making flashcards and toeturing me for hours, admonishing me with "You're smart but way too lazy" Years later, as a high school teacher honored by Stanford and multiple times by Harvard, her students felt that pushing and urging. Our kids did too.
So those two other newer places i dont mind at all. Heck if i can travel to Charleston or Denver, Dayton, or Charlotte for tournaments, UBS or Barclays is ok - they just arent home.
To me our two main venues have to do with ghosts.
At the Garden, I feel the ghosts of the great Knick teams, the late Willis Reed and Dave DeBusschere, but also younger versions of Bradley, Frazier, Monroe, Barnett, Lucas, Russell eviscerating opponents before crowds that made the building shake. I hear Marv Alpert, Billie Joel, Sinatra, John Condon, and Howard Cosell "Down goes Frazier!! Down goes Frazier", ethereal figures of Ali and Joe in perhaps the greatest fight ever. Its Mark Messier hoisting the Cup, Rod Gilbert, Eddie Giacoman and countless others.
And MSG is literally the first home of our beloved Johnnies, from the days where campus was Brooklyn and we shared the Garden with this new professional basketball team - the old Garden of course. There are the ghosts of high school students on 15 cent subway rides sitting in the cheap seats for less than a dollar. And it's where we came of age battling Bobby Knights unbeaten Hoosiers to nearly a draw in a time where fans knew how to properly salute valiant Redmen losers who played the hearts out and asses off.
But Utopia parkway is my other home. Where ghosts of classmates and frat brothers, some who died way too young, still file in and cram the bleachers till we sat in the aisles and in violation of fire codes. Where we'd go home hoarse and that lingered through Monday morning at work. Where the student locker rooms still are the same in looks and smells (unfortunately). Where you could have a 2 hour class break and squueze in half a dozen half court games. Where the halls of marillac, st. Johns hall, or st als hasnt changed too much even as they've become elder statesmen on a campus that now sparkles with new stadiums and buildings. CA? Well I'm reminded how my older brother took me to my first sju game where we played Army and lost, where Army's coach was a young guy named Bobby Knight, his point guard Mike K-something and our coach a young short Italian guy who looked disheveled when the game started and a mess by game's end. I remember thinking how awesome it would be if someday I could go there. God must have been listening and in a good mood to make it happen a few years later. Incredibly i was offered a job there that changed my life. Most of my old friends are alums and many (you) of my newer friends too.
It's the place where this very smart and very pretty classmate helped me through pharmacology and pharmacognosy by making flashcards and toeturing me for hours, admonishing me with "You're smart but way too lazy" Years later, as a high school teacher honored by Stanford and multiple times by Harvard, her students felt that pushing and urging. Our kids did too.
So those two other newer places i dont mind at all. Heck if i can travel to Charleston or Denver, Dayton, or Charlotte for tournaments, UBS or Barclays is ok - they just arent home.
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I have been consistent in my belief that we need one home court, on which we play all of our home games. Having two home courts (and this year, three) is like an NFL team that says they have 2 quarterbacks. We know how many you really have.
In an ideal world, that building would be MSG. With Pitino on board, and Billy Joel ending his concert residency there next year, it may be more doable in the near future.
However, the world is not ideal. I have long believed that MSG is almost "too special", if that's possible. Opposing teams come in here, they are taught about the history and the mystique, how special it is to play at MSG, and we get the best of our opponents every time, because of it. Meanwhile, we've been playing there anywhere between 5-10 times a year (counting the Big East Tournament), so it's easy for the place to lose some luster, for us. It's also too easy for opposing teams' fans to have access to, which cuts into the homecourt advantage. I also don't think winning is the answer to that, as we've never really held it over teams like Syracuse and UCONN, even when we've been good.
Long term (meaning, after Rick's gone)? I still think UBS may be it. If we can get them to 1. curtain off the upper bowl, like they do at SHU games, and 2. waive the parking fee for season ticket holders, than I think it's the best answer. Location is perfect for a lot of our fanbase, which is Queens/Long Island (it would actually stink for me, but this is not about what's good for me, it's about what's good for the program).
In an ideal world, that building would be MSG. With Pitino on board, and Billy Joel ending his concert residency there next year, it may be more doable in the near future.
However, the world is not ideal. I have long believed that MSG is almost "too special", if that's possible. Opposing teams come in here, they are taught about the history and the mystique, how special it is to play at MSG, and we get the best of our opponents every time, because of it. Meanwhile, we've been playing there anywhere between 5-10 times a year (counting the Big East Tournament), so it's easy for the place to lose some luster, for us. It's also too easy for opposing teams' fans to have access to, which cuts into the homecourt advantage. I also don't think winning is the answer to that, as we've never really held it over teams like Syracuse and UCONN, even when we've been good.
Long term (meaning, after Rick's gone)? I still think UBS may be it. If we can get them to 1. curtain off the upper bowl, like they do at SHU games, and 2. waive the parking fee for season ticket holders, than I think it's the best answer. Location is perfect for a lot of our fanbase, which is Queens/Long Island (it would actually stink for me, but this is not about what's good for me, it's about what's good for the program).
Blasphemy. Ricks coaching another 10 years
ManhattAn1
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I live in Floral Park, you can park at Floral Park and you have access to the main line and Hempstead line to get to UBS. Trains every ten minutes in evening
You can have a drink and dinner at the Harrison before or after the game . Do it all the time
ManhattAn1
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Also, if you want to be a big time program you can’t play games at CA