Rick agrees
2023-2024 Schedule
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You can play a couple of low level big east games at UBS but more than that and you are Hofstra or Iona. Father Shanley brought Pitino in to play at MSG and Pitino has already said he wants to play all big east games at MSG.
The next high level recruit who says he signed with SJU to play at UBS will be the first.
The next high level recruit who says he signed with SJU to play at UBS will be the first.
I wonder what the policy for students at CA will be this season. The last few years all they had to do was flash ID and then sit at any seat they found unoccupied. Depending on ticket demand I’m not so sure that policy can remain in place.
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Yea. With only 5 games at Carnesecca arena this year, 3 non conf and 2 Big East, it's interesting to see how this plays out next year and beyond. Coach Pitino has said he wants the St. John's brand to be too big for Carnesecca Arena, which is all well and good and hopefully it happens quickly. But when Carnesecca Arena is packed and loud, it's a real home court advantage. We haven't seen that at MSG for a few decades, (besides a game or two here and there) and even then with MSG being so big it doesn't feel like fans are potentially on top of opponents like at Carnesecca Arena.
I suspect next year there may be even less games at Carnesecca Arena, and perhaps it's because I'm only a fan for 17 years or so and have seen mainly bad teams and not sold out arenas, but I like the idea of having 5 Carnesecca games a year. There's still something to being in the small gym for me.
But obviously Coach Pitino wants every game in a major arena, likely MSG and having it be sold out. Hopefully the fans show up in droves, if not now, when? Excited for Nov 7!
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harrison is great option. I met MCNs dad and sister there before the Kansas game. There was strong talk of knocking MCN out of the family and adding me
just kidding his dad and sis are diehard johnnie fans like us
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The best way to watch would be in person but failing that, you should consider "YouTube TV" which has all of the sport channels (fox1, Fox 2, all of the ESPNs, CBS Sport Network, and others) and is substantially less expensive than my former Verizon subscription.
YouTube TV - Watch & DVR Live Sports, Shows & News
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YouTube TV is great. Some benefits, mostly about saving money:The best way to watch would be in person but failing that, you should consider "YouTube TV" which has all of the sport channels (fox1, Fox 2, all of the ESPNs, CBS Sport Network, and others) and is substantially less expensive than my former Verizon subscription.
YouTube TV - Watch & DVR Live Sports, Shows & News
Stream live TV from ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN & popular cable networks in English and Spanish. Record without DVR storage space limits. Try it free. Cancel anytime.
1) If you have a family member that lives nearby you can split the cost with them; (you have to watch how far away they live / how many TVs are watching "away" from home. If you have a large family a lot of folks at home watching TV at home you can pay for their 4K package for a little extra a month that gives you unlimited streams (TV/Computer/Phone) at home, and then up to three streams away from home.) For instance, in my family, a family member is about 50 miles away from the main house, and that person can watch TV as part of the same plan. Maybe YouTube TV cracks down on this, but maybe not - they want market share.
2) You don't have to pay for the cable TV "box" anymore - this fee, for the "cable box" has bee a total rip-off for decades. The old traditional cable company was charging each household, now $10 to $15 per cable box, and there was no reason for it. Just by not paying that $20 to $30 a month based on how many TV boxes you had in your houshold is a savings.
3) "Unlimited" DVRing - at the "mothership", YouTube TV records all TV shown, so you can just make an unlimited list of what shows you want to pull up on command, and they are avalable to you. So if your family watches 20 different programs in a week, you can record 20, or you can record all NFL games, or whaterver. That's a nice feature if you aboslutely have to watch every episode of Jeopardy or your favorite news program, etc.
Side note about Internet connection savings: A lot of people get their internet as part of a "package" deal. Cable TV + Internet for $100 / $120 / $150, whatever... As an alternative, you can consider in lieu of your traditional Comcast / Spectrum land line for internet, instead get Verizon Home 5G or T Mobile Home 5G internet.
Depending on where you live, you get can internet connection/wifi to your house, through the airwaves, similar to how your phone receives 5G. These home 5G gizmos, offered by Verizon and TMobile, are deploying rapidly, signs up lots of customers. The reason: Cost. They are cheaper.
You can get home internet 5G for $50 a month for your household. If you are existing TMobile or Verizon mobile phone member it's even cheaper, I think you can get home internet for $25 a month or something; it's relatively cheap. It works well. Depending on the coverage area / where you live vs. where the towers are in your neighborhood, you get download speeds that are plenty fast / just fine for TV/Video calls, work, etc.
If you live in an area where you are far away from a tower, then this won't work for you; but if your phone gets get reception in your house, then this 5G gizmo box will get good reception too. They are a very simple set up (takes five minutes).
The way it works: You just plug the home 5G home internet modem/router thingy, and leave it next to a window. That gizmo grabs the internet signal, and throws off the wifi for your household (you can set up a wifi router off of that gizmo, for "pucks" to extend your wifi internet if necessary)
Unless you are a twelve your old kid and you are gaming heavily, you don't need download speeds of 1,000 mb a month with super low latency. Home internet through 5G wireless is completely fine for 90%+ of households.
I've been on a mini crusade about this the last few years - to save family members money. Some people "get it", some people don't. Let me know if you have any questions.
You make some great points. In fact it feels like Carnesecca Arena is the real true home court advantage, especially because you usually never get opposing fans there, while with MSG that usually isn't always the case. In the not too distant past during the Lavin years I can remember them trying to schedule the majority of the Big East schedule at MSG. I remember sitting there for a game against DePaul where MSG was pretty much empty. So we'll see how it goes this year as we have more opponents scheduled there again. Thankfully Pitino is the right guy to drum of interest and get the common fans interested again.
by far the most in depth and informative post I've ever seen here on this topic. I think my verizon contract expires in february and I'm paying like $230 a month for fios so expect a pm from me next year
How much is your total cost everything all in ? You have to pay extra for hbo etc ?
My understanding is SNY is unavailable through YouTube, which is what keeps me stuck at Verizon as the MLB app blocks out “local” broadcasts. Between the Mets and SJU there never seems to be a reasonable option, cord or no cord, and annoyingly I’m always stuck with 500 channels, of which I watch about ten.
Ahhh ok no way I can give up SNY
Fubotv.
Thats the best i have found. Use it for mets (Sny) rangers(MSG) and sju (fox sports)
Only problems is u dont get TNT, TBS so i miss a couple rangers games a year. Also doesnt get channel 11 so some mets games you are also SOL. Wont work for Yankee fans though bc no YES.
Should mention that Fubo isnt great for March madness, so u might need to pick up Slingtv for a month. But that service is relatively cheap.
Sure, I'm happy to help out. I wrote a long email to a non-tech person summarizing all this, so they could process it. I could forward that. For someone that doesn't pay attention to this stuff, it's a lot to wrap your head around.
For my situation:
1. Our family's main houshold: Has multiple people, with TVs all over:
$82.98/month for basic TV (espn, nbc, cable news, etc), that's after tax.
+ $16.00/month+tax for HBO Max (I think, roughly? I pay yearly, so I don't remember the exact cost per month)
+ $50/month + tax for home internet for Verizon or TMobile home 5G (If you have a high-end Verizon Wireless or T-Mobile phone plan, then this can drop to $25 or $30 / month. I get my wireless plan through work, so I don't get the cheaper home 5G price)
+ $10.00 / for YouTubeTV "4K" package - which gives you unlimited number of streams at home: Depending on how many people you have at home, you may or may not need this. I don't want to hear any complaints from any family members, if people are leaving TVs on all over the place, so I just pay for this. (I forget how many streams you get at home without this $10.00/month add-on). You may not need this $10.00/month extra cost for unlimited streams. I forget how many streams you get without this $10.00/month.
= $158.98/month total for the main household, for Basic TV + Internet at home + HBO Max; all for a ton of TVs/Phones/Laptops around the house. That's already cheaper than what you are probably paying now. (netflix of course is separate cost, i think like another $15 to $20/month, depending)
The 2nd home / other family member, living 50 miles away.
$ 0 - for basic TV - They are part of the main household's YoutubeTV "family".
$0 - for HBO Max - Same thing, part of the family plan.
$50/month for home 5G internet (or $25 to $30 if you have a high level mobile plan through verizon / TMobile)
$0 - (They don't particpate in the unlimited # of streams "at home". There can be up to 3 streams "away" from home.
= $50.00 total cost.
Combined,
So for one main household, with lots of TVs & home internet & HBO + a other separate "family" member that lives 50 miles away, that has home internet & TV & HBO = low $200s combined. That's not bad. (Maybe in the future, YouTube TV will eliminate that 50 miles away person from being part of the family, but I doubt that this will happen any time soon.)
Side notes #1: You have to remember, the YouTube TV vs. the home internet connection are really two seperate decisions. For the last 20 years, the invoices for these two things have been combined by your Comcasts of the world, but now it's really two different services that you are paying for. You can easily get internet only from Comcast/Spectrum and then get your TV through YouTube TV. These are two separate decisions now.
Side notes #2: In the past, I had T-Mobile 5G at home, but it "stuttered" occasionally (I work at home), so I switched to Verizon home 5G, and that's not stuttering at all. It could be the exact oppposite at your house. Again, it all depends where your apartment/house is in relation to towers. If you live nowhere near any towers, then the home internet 5G thing may not be an option, and just go with Spectrum/Comcast for internet-only at home (I would guess internet only is $50 to $80/month at these the traditional cable companies, or it may be lower if you get a teaser rate).
Side note #3: If you a twelve year-old and want to play low-latency gaming, lazer-zapping your friends over a PC, then the home internet is probalby best ordered though a land-line like Comast/FiOs/Spectrum. If you are doing standard TV watching, some video calls for work, internet surfing, then your home internet through 5G will be just fine (assuming you are living proximately to a tower).
Side note #$: For NFL football fans, verizon is running a promotion right now, that if you sign up for the Home internet 5G, then you get a free season of Sunday NFL ticket, which for first time is on YouTube TV. That NFL sunday ticket costs several hundred bucks, retail. So, if you want to watch out of network NFL games (i.e. someme that is a Broncos fan, for example), this might be an added one-time benefit. I don't know all the details, but it's something maybe worths sniffing around for. I think this promotion was just released this week, very recently.
Verizon Home Internet gets a tech upgrade, plus get NFL Sunday Ticket on us
Verizon's new Home Internet technology is built to power streaming and gaming, with added benefits like savings up to $449 with NFL Sunday Ticket on us
Side note #4: I forgot this one. It's a big one: Currently, there is no MSG/YES (No knicks/Rangers/Yankees). I don't watch either, so that doesn't bother me. For others, this is a no go. The YES network also. Same thing. That's the downside. MSG/YES are fighting with YouTube TV. I think the Met's network is/was on it; but maybe that got removed.
I don't watch any of those games anymore (I'm down to NFL and college basketball, so this works perfectly for me). If you are really desperate for the Yankees, I believe they sell a monthly streaming package now. I'm not sure about MSG.
Side note #5: How to acess YouTube TV, if you want to sign up for YouTube TV:
All modern TVs, you can download all these apps, and it all works pretty seeemlessly, for YouTube TV, etc.
Sony TVs for example, have Google TV operating system built in, so it's a pretty slick interface; you just log into your gmail account on the TV, and it just works.
If you have an older TV, or if you don't want to use the LG / Samsung's operating system, then you can use the "Google TV" Chromecast stick. It's a simple controller, that even an older person can use (very few buttons), and one just plugs it into your HDMI port. I took a screenshot below. It's a one-time cost of $30 to $50 per TV controller. They are often on sale for $10 to $20 off. I like it, because it's so simple, has very few buttons.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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