2017 Transfers

Sherman Sheridan & Grant · Apr 4, 2017

We go from one of our smallest backcourts ever (Lovett and Ponds) to one of the tallest (Simon and Heron) in just a season.

Amazing how these things work out.

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What's more amazing is when everyone will complain that we need a small guard.

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There exists an anti-complaining faction
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cappy105 · Apr 4, 2017

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Michael Weathers, Miami of Ohio transfer, won't be visiting St. John's, per source. Doesn't seem like a fit. #sjubb

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I guess he didn't want to sit behind Simon, Ponds, and Heron.

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Why do we keep mentioning Heron have not seen any evidence that he is showing any interest to SJU Or i'm I mistaken

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didn't he tweet it on april 1st too? hummmm bad joke.

Class of 72 · Apr 4, 2017

Aside from reeling in a fifth-year big with good numbers who can play right away, and with the exception of grabbing a big-time-program stud like Mustapha Heron (we should be so lucky), I'd much rather see us concentrate on signing HS seniors like Luther Muhammad who can play right away than having us fill up the roster with transfers from mid-majors (or even lower), some of whom have put up less-than-stellar numbers. Weathers, as noted, shot .221 from 3-point range and turned the ball over 5 times a game (for an abysmal 1-to-1 assist-to-TO ration) for a team that finished dead last (4-14) in a mediocre conference; and Kiss shot .408 from the field and .277 from 3-point range from a team that went 7-13 in the MAAC and 10-21 overall. Just not getting the interest in signing guys like these when we've been led to believe we're in good shape with the '18 and '19 HS classes.

I agree! I don't think we are in great shape with any studs. Our record speaks for itself. Going after rethreads of this caliber is disappointing. Big men have to be the priority even if they have to go the Juco route. We are not going anywhere with a front line of the caliber of recuits Matt has focused on like Zach Brown, Yankuba Sima or the hustling Owens.

paultzman · Apr 4, 2017

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logen · Apr 4, 2017

Aside from reeling in a fifth-year big with good numbers who can play right away, and with the exception of grabbing a big-time-program stud like Mustapha Heron (we should be so lucky), I'd much rather see us concentrate on signing HS seniors like Luther Muhammad who can play right away than having us fill up the roster with transfers from mid-majors (or even lower), some of whom have put up less-than-stellar numbers. Weathers, as noted, shot .221 from 3-point range and turned the ball over 5 times a game (for an abysmal 1-to-1 assist-to-TO ration) for a team that finished dead last (4-14) in a mediocre conference; and Kiss shot .408 from the field and .277 from 3-point range from a team that went 7-13 in the MAAC and 10-21 overall. Just not getting the interest in signing guys like these when we've been led to believe we're in good shape with the '18 and '19 HS classes.

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I agree! I don't think we are in great shape with any studs. Our record speaks for itself. Going after rethreads of this caliber is disappointing. Big men have to be the priority even if they have to go the Juco route. We are not going anywhere with a front line of the caliber of recuits Matt has focused on like Zach Brown, Yankuba Sima or the hustling Owens.

You do understand that SJU had to basically fill a roster completely during the recruiting "off-season" in the spring of 2015? This led to the signing of Sima, Yakwe, etc. in order to field a remotely reasonable team. I am as critical as the next irrational fan during and immediately after games but the objective reality is that stud recruits, which we are pursuing, are not exactly tripping over themselves to come to a program that was in absolute shambles two years ago and just started to show evidence of climbing out of that hole this past season. And frankly, why should they? So we have a Plan B, that is a bad thing? We are not exactly a program dealing from any kind of strength right now.

redken · Apr 4, 2017

Aside from reeling in a fifth-year big with good numbers who can play right away, and with the exception of grabbing a big-time-program stud like Mustapha Heron (we should be so lucky), I'd much rather see us concentrate on signing HS seniors like Luther Muhammad who can play right away than having us fill up the roster with transfers from mid-majors (or even lower), some of whom have put up less-than-stellar numbers. Weathers, as noted, shot .221 from 3-point range and turned the ball over 5 times a game (for an abysmal 1-to-1 assist-to-TO ration) for a team that finished dead last (4-14) in a mediocre conference; and Kiss shot .408 from the field and .277 from 3-point range from a team that went 7-13 in the MAAC and 10-21 overall. Just not getting the interest in signing guys like these when we've been led to believe we're in good shape with the '18 and '19 HS classes.

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I agree! I don't think we are in great shape with any studs. Our record speaks for itself. Going after rethreads of this caliber is disappointing. Big men have to be the priority even if they have to go the Juco route. We are not going anywhere with a front line of the caliber of recuits Matt has focused on like Zach Brown, Yankuba Sima or the hustling Owens.

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You do understand that SJU had to basically fill a roster completely during the recruiting "off-season" in the spring of 2015? This led to the signing of Sima, Yakwe, etc. in order to field a remotely reasonable team. I am as critical as the next irrational fan during and immediately after games but the objective reality is that stud recruits, which we are pursuing, are not exactly tripping over themselves to come to a program that was in absolute shambles two years ago and just started to show evidence of climbing out of that hole this past season. And frankly, why should they? So we have a Plan B, that is a bad thing? We are not exactly a program dealing from any kind of strength right now.

I fully understand the roster situation CM inherited in Year 1, and I have no complaints about Matt going after whatever big men were available. Thought he did a terrific job of it. What I do have a problem with is taking transfers with questionable stats and who played for losing lower-tier programs to fill out the roster in Years 3 and 4. As I've noted elsewhere, reaching about to players like Simon and Clark is fine, but some of the names I'm hearing now -- and granted, I've never seen them play -- just don't excite me.

logen · Apr 4, 2017

Aside from reeling in a fifth-year big with good numbers who can play right away, and with the exception of grabbing a big-time-program stud like Mustapha Heron (we should be so lucky), I'd much rather see us concentrate on signing HS seniors like Luther Muhammad who can play right away than having us fill up the roster with transfers from mid-majors (or even lower), some of whom have put up less-than-stellar numbers. Weathers, as noted, shot .221 from 3-point range and turned the ball over 5 times a game (for an abysmal 1-to-1 assist-to-TO ration) for a team that finished dead last (4-14) in a mediocre conference; and Kiss shot .408 from the field and .277 from 3-point range from a team that went 7-13 in the MAAC and 10-21 overall. Just not getting the interest in signing guys like these when we've been led to believe we're in good shape with the '18 and '19 HS classes.

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I agree! I don't think we are in great shape with any studs. Our record speaks for itself. Going after rethreads of this caliber is disappointing. Big men have to be the priority even if they have to go the Juco route. We are not going anywhere with a front line of the caliber of recuits Matt has focused on like Zach Brown, Yankuba Sima or the hustling Owens.

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You do understand that SJU had to basically fill a roster completely during the recruiting "off-season" in the spring of 2015? This led to the signing of Sima, Yakwe, etc. in order to field a remotely reasonable team. I am as critical as the next irrational fan during and immediately after games but the objective reality is that stud recruits, which we are pursuing, are not exactly tripping over themselves to come to a program that was in absolute shambles two years ago and just started to show evidence of climbing out of that hole this past season. And frankly, why should they? So we have a Plan B, that is a bad thing? We are not exactly a program dealing from any kind of strength right now.

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I fully understand the roster situation CM inherited in Year 1, and I have no complaints about Matt going after whatever big men were available. Thought he did a terrific job of it. What I do have a problem with is taking transfers with questionable stats and who played for losing lower-tier programs to fill out the roster in Years 3 and 4. As I've noted elsewhere, reaching about to players like Simon and Clark is fine, but some of the names I'm hearing now -- and granted, I've never seen them play -- just don't excite me.

I have not really seen any of the players we may be pursuing either but isn't that what Matt especially gets paid for? My point is we are far from picking and choosing between recruits, that is the reality. We are chasing the high echelon players but right now, from where I sit, we are just not a real inviting alternative for that level player, if we ever will be. So transfers, JUCOs, and being "on" players like Ponds for whom SJU is a viable option is where realistically our recruiting is at IMO. Building a program that was down is tough, building a program from an empty cupboard even more so.

MarkRedman · Apr 4, 2017

Not a transfer, but St John's has offered 2017 @PSAhoops big man Alex Yetna, per Corey Evans
Too bad his last name isn't Yenta

boo haarvey · Apr 4, 2017

Not a transfer, but St John's has offered 2017 @PSAhoops big man Alex Yetna, per Corey Evans
Too bad his last name isn't Yenta

He weighs less than Owen. Hopefully he is not our "in the bag" big man.

Coaster1955 · Apr 4, 2017

Odd that DW is on this list, but ME is not.

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Red.Fans · Apr 4, 2017

Red.Fans · Apr 4, 2017

interesting that Yetna has his Iowa St offer pinned on his Twitter profile.

redfanUpooooooo · Apr 4, 2017

Wright State's Mark Alstork is getting his release and will graduate this summer, he tells Scout. Averaged 19 PPG & 4.7 RPG last season.

Delaware · Apr 4, 2017

interesting that Yetna has his Iowa St offer pinned on his Twitter profile.

Not impressed. Was getting pushed all over the place by some white guys. Looks like another "athlete ". Ugh.

fuchsia · Apr 4, 2017

Not a transfer, but St John's has offered 2017 @PSAhoops big man Alex Yetna, per Corey Evans
Too bad his last name isn't Yenta

If it was he could become a moderator on this board.

In the video he looked like a possible glue guy that could get much bigger.

Moose · Apr 4, 2017

Not a transfer, but St John's has offered 2017 @PSAhoops big man Alex Yetna, per Corey Evans
Too bad his last name isn't Yenta

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He weighs less than Owen. Hopefully he is not our "in the bag" big man.

Looking at that video he does not weigh less than Owens.

doodyny33 · Apr 4, 2017

Not a transfer, but St John's has offered 2017 @PSAhoops big man Alex Yetna, per Corey Evans
Too bad his last name isn't Yenta

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If it was he could become a moderator on this board.

In the video he looked like a possible glue guy that could get much bigger.

Don't think SJU needs more glue guys. Need to get difference makers on the roster.

MCNPA · Apr 4, 2017

Not a transfer, but St John's has offered 2017 @PSAhoops big man Alex Yetna, per Corey Evans
Too bad his last name isn't Yenta

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He weighs less than Owen. Hopefully he is not our "in the bag" big man.

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Looking at that video he does not weigh less than Owens.

He said definitely not that big body I'm hoping to see as he's certainly not a center. That said, he's a good athlete and looks like an effective rebounder with a good motor. It would also be nice to have at least one freshman on board for the 17' class, so I wouldn't mind that aspect.

Andrew · Apr 4, 2017

No problem with Yetna but wonder why he would consider St. John's this late as he has a lot of offers including the Iowa State one. If we liked this guy so much why didn't we offer when Sima left.

L J S A · Apr 4, 2017

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