2014-2015 Prediction Thread

Unfortunately both here and at UCLA Lavin has started slow almost every season. But at UCLA his teams came along very strongly in the end, not so much at STJ yet.

I definitely think there is a sense of urgency with the players right now. Jordan is trying to go pro, Harrison and Greene know it's their last chance to do big things here, so I think maybe that could lead to a good early start. It's unpredictable, but we will see.

I think that sounds very nice to say, but both Sanchez and Sampson were supposed to have a sense of urgency to enhance their chances at going pro, and that didn't turn out very well. For us to get out of the gates quickly and become a tourney team, there needs to be significant change. I can understand Marillac's opinion that Sanchez/Sampson loss is addition by subtraction, but the talent level of those who are replacing them is in question.

To me at least the substantive change necessary to become a winner has to be the maturation of Jordan as a player. The torch has to be passed and Jordan must log a lot of minutes and have the ball in his hands. We've seen how he can slice up defenses, and create easy baskets for his teammates. We can't have Greene/Harrison holding the ball too much. Our front line must rebound and defend. Pointer must be so much more than an occasional positive contributor. If Harrison yields to Jordan's superior overall ability, he can have his best season yet, as he can be the prime beneficiary of Jordan's ability to dish.

Can this team win? Yes. Will they? We shall see.
 
I agree that getting off to a hot start is important, but I think it's more important that we start to believe we can win big games. We've been pulling in 20 win seasons, but we need to grab those marquee wins when they're available. I didn't expect us to sweep Wisconsin Cuse and Nova 2x last season but we've got to come out of those types of games with at least a noteworthy win or two. Creighton at home was the only impressive win on the schedule, and we again lost our first game in the BE tournament.

So yes, let's start the season well; but just as importantly the team needs to start rising to the occasion for the big games. Hopefully the additional experience the seniors have can be a difference maker in that regard.

Also a great point. 2-7 against tournament teams last year. Didn't win one until February 4, losing the first 5. You turn that into 4-5 and we dance. This is part of what I was trying to get at in my prior post, the season can swing in the details and you have to capitalize on opportunities when you get them. The more you let slip away early the more you are playing catch-up late.
 
Unfortunately both here and at UCLA Lavin has started slow almost every season. But at UCLA his teams came along very strongly in the end, not so much at STJ yet.

I definitely think there is a sense of urgency with the players right now. Jordan is trying to go pro, Harrison and Greene know it's their last chance to do big things here, so I think maybe that could lead to a good early start. It's unpredictable, but we will see.

I think that sounds very nice to say, but both Sanchez and Sampson were supposed to have a sense of urgency to enhance their chances at going pro, and that didn't turn out very well. For us to get out of the gates quickly and become a tourney team, there needs to be significant change. I can understand Marillac's opinion that Sanchez/Sampson loss is addition by subtraction, but the talent level of those who are replacing them is in question.

To me at least the substantive change necessary to become a winner has to be the maturation of Jordan as a player. The torch has to be passed and Jordan must log a lot of minutes and have the ball in his hands. We've seen how he can slice up defenses, and create easy baskets for his teammates. We can't have Greene/Harrison holding the ball too much. Our front line must rebound and defend. Pointer must be so much more than an occasional positive contributor. If Harrison yields to Jordan's superior overall ability, he can have his best season yet, as he can be the prime beneficiary of Jordan's ability to dish.

Can this team win? Yes. Will they? We shall see.


I understand your point from a Sanchez POV, but honestly I've been seeing a lot of Sampson hate on the board and I don't understand it. He had a bit of crisis in the beginning of the year, taking threes, trying to show off. Then for the most part he played solid for us all year. One of our best rebounders, and other than Harrison, our most consistent form of offense was his elbow jumper. Sampson was a solid player for us, and I know some want to spin it differently because they are still mad he prematurely left, but he played well for us for two years.

Obviously Sampson's season is not the topic of discussion, but I just feel like the idea of him "showing off for pro scouts" the entire season has been accepted as a fact when I don't think it's true. Remember the article about Sampson at the end of the year where he backed up the claims I'm making now?

But anyway, the rest of your post I agree with 100%, but had to get the Sampson thing off my chest.
 
I agree that getting off to a hot start is important, but I think it's more important that we start to believe we can win big games. We've been pulling in 20 win seasons, but we need to grab those marquee wins when they're available. I didn't expect us to sweep Wisconsin Cuse and Nova 2x last season but we've got to come out of those types of games with at least a noteworthy win or two. Creighton at home was the only impressive win on the schedule, and we again lost our first game in the BE tournament.

So yes, let's start the season well; but just as importantly the team needs to start rising to the occasion for the big games. Hopefully the additional experience the seniors have can be a difference maker in that regard.

This is crucial to getting into the Big Dance. Just look at Georgetown last year. Like us, they split with Creighton and were swept by Nova, (although they split with Xavier. ) But they also beat #7 Michigan State. So the NCAA selection committee actually placed them ahead of us, even though they finished behind us in the BE conference--they were first four out for the Tourney, we weren't. We need wins against at least 2 ranked teams, IMO.
 
Unfortunately both here and at UCLA Lavin has started slow almost every season. But at UCLA his teams came along very strongly in the end, not so much at STJ yet.

I definitely think there is a sense of urgency with the players right now. Jordan is trying to go pro, Harrison and Greene know it's their last chance to do big things here, so I think maybe that could lead to a good early start. It's unpredictable, but we will see.

I think that sounds very nice to say, but both Sanchez and Sampson were supposed to have a sense of urgency to enhance their chances at going pro, and that didn't turn out very well. For us to get out of the gates quickly and become a tourney team, there needs to be significant change. I can understand Marillac's opinion that Sanchez/Sampson loss is addition by subtraction, but the talent level of those who are replacing them is in question.

To me at least the substantive change necessary to become a winner has to be the maturation of Jordan as a player. The torch has to be passed and Jordan must log a lot of minutes and have the ball in his hands. We've seen how he can slice up defenses, and create easy baskets for his teammates. We can't have Greene/Harrison holding the ball too much. Our front line must rebound and defend. Pointer must be so much more than an occasional positive contributor. If Harrison yields to Jordan's superior overall ability, he can have his best season yet, as he can be the prime beneficiary of Jordan's ability to dish.

Can this team win? Yes. Will they? We shall see.


I understand your point from a Sanchez POV, but honestly I've been seeing a lot of Sampson hate on the board and I don't understand it. He had a bit of crisis in the beginning of the year, taking threes, trying to show off. Then for the most part he played solid for us all year. One of our best rebounders, and other than Harrison, our most consistent form of offense was his elbow jumper. Sampson was a solid player for us, and I know some want to spin it differently because they are still mad he prematurely left, but he played well for us for two years.

Obviously Sampson's season is not the topic of discussion, but I just feel like the idea of him "showing off for pro scouts" the entire season has been accepted as a fact when I don't think it's true. Remember the article about Sampson at the end of the year where he backed up the claims I'm making now?

But anyway, the rest of your post I agree with 100%, but had to get the Sampson thing off my chest.

I agree with your post that Sampson's selfishness did not last the entire year but is was the main reason why this team started poorly and went 0 - 5 to start the Big East.
 
Unfortunately both here and at UCLA Lavin has started slow almost every season. But at UCLA his teams came along very strongly in the end, not so much at STJ yet.

I definitely think there is a sense of urgency with the players right now. Jordan is trying to go pro, Harrison and Greene know it's their last chance to do big things here, so I think maybe that could lead to a good early start. It's unpredictable, but we will see.

I think that sounds very nice to say, but both Sanchez and Sampson were supposed to have a sense of urgency to enhance their chances at going pro, and that didn't turn out very well. For us to get out of the gates quickly and become a tourney team, there needs to be significant change. I can understand Marillac's opinion that Sanchez/Sampson loss is addition by subtraction, but the talent level of those who are replacing them is in question.

To me at least the substantive change necessary to become a winner has to be the maturation of Jordan as a player. The torch has to be passed and Jordan must log a lot of minutes and have the ball in his hands. We've seen how he can slice up defenses, and create easy baskets for his teammates. We can't have Greene/Harrison holding the ball too much. Our front line must rebound and defend. Pointer must be so much more than an occasional positive contributor. If Harrison yields to Jordan's superior overall ability, he can have his best season yet, as he can be the prime beneficiary of Jordan's ability to dish.

Can this team win? Yes. Will they? We shall see.


I understand your point from a Sanchez POV, but honestly I've been seeing a lot of Sampson hate on the board and I don't understand it. He had a bit of crisis in the beginning of the year, taking threes, trying to show off. Then for the most part he played solid for us all year. One of our best rebounders, and other than Harrison, our most consistent form of offense was his elbow jumper. Sampson was a solid player for us, and I know some want to spin it differently because they are still mad he prematurely left, but he played well for us for two years.

Obviously Sampson's season is not the topic of discussion, but I just feel like the idea of him "showing off for pro scouts" the entire season has been accepted as a fact when I don't think it's true. Remember the article about Sampson at the end of the year where he backed up the claims I'm making now?

But anyway, the rest of your post I agree with 100%, but had to get the Sampson thing off my chest.

Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed any chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. We would have almost always been better off with him screening for Jordan, Branch, or Harrison and letting them shoot with him going for the rebounds instead of having our guards going after rebounds. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass when he wanted it, and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks made almost every game with his athletic ability. What sucks is not having the player he could and should have been this year. The soph version, though, was not what this team needed on the court. Thomas might not have 1/2 the athletic ability, but could end up being better for this team if he brings it on defense.
 
Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed an chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks he made almost every game with his athletic ability.

You mean we'll miss the 12 & 6 he gave us last year and the 15 & 7 he would have given us this year. The attempts to spin the loss of Sampson as a plus are pathetic. He was the leading rebounder, 2nd scorer and had a dependable jumpshot....that he could create with his own dribble.

Can any of the current frontcourt players hit multiple jumpers per game? Do any of them have any offensive skill refinement at all? Can any of them create themselves or will they be 100% dependent on a well placed pass from Jordan around the basket? Do any of them besides Obekpa have the length to defend the post ?

Sampson and Sanchez were not the reasons for last seasons disappointment, Lavins coaching was. And if the team is better this season it will be due to Whitesell having more time to implement a system and develop the frontcourt guys....along with Lavin realizing that Greene should not run the point.
 
Unfortunately both here and at UCLA Lavin has started slow almost every season. But at UCLA his teams came along very strongly in the end, not so much at STJ yet.

I definitely think there is a sense of urgency with the players right now. Jordan is trying to go pro, Harrison and Greene know it's their last chance to do big things here, so I think maybe that could lead to a good early start. It's unpredictable, but we will see.

I think that sounds very nice to say, but both Sanchez and Sampson were supposed to have a sense of urgency to enhance their chances at going pro, and that didn't turn out very well. For us to get out of the gates quickly and become a tourney team, there needs to be significant change. I can understand Marillac's opinion that Sanchez/Sampson loss is addition by subtraction, but the talent level of those who are replacing them is in question.

To me at least the substantive change necessary to become a winner has to be the maturation of Jordan as a player. The torch has to be passed and Jordan must log a lot of minutes and have the ball in his hands. We've seen how he can slice up defenses, and create easy baskets for his teammates. We can't have Greene/Harrison holding the ball too much. Our front line must rebound and defend. Pointer must be so much more than an occasional positive contributor. If Harrison yields to Jordan's superior overall ability, he can have his best season yet, as he can be the prime beneficiary of Jordan's ability to dish.

Can this team win? Yes. Will they? We shall see.


I understand your point from a Sanchez POV, but honestly I've been seeing a lot of Sampson hate on the board and I don't understand it. He had a bit of crisis in the beginning of the year, taking threes, trying to show off. Then for the most part he played solid for us all year. One of our best rebounders, and other than Harrison, our most consistent form of offense was his elbow jumper. Sampson was a solid player for us, and I know some want to spin it differently because they are still mad he prematurely left, but he played well for us for two years.

Obviously Sampson's season is not the topic of discussion, but I just feel like the idea of him "showing off for pro scouts" the entire season has been accepted as a fact when I don't think it's true. Remember the article about Sampson at the end of the year where he backed up the claims I'm making now?

But anyway, the rest of your post I agree with 100%, but had to get the Sampson thing off my chest.

Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed any chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. We would have almost always been better off with him screening for Jordan, Branch, or Harrison and letting them shoot with him going for the rebounds instead of having our guards going after rebounds. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass when he wanted it, and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks made almost every game with his athletic ability. What sucks is not having the player he could and should have been this year. The soph version, though, was not what this team needed on the court. Thomas might not have 1/2 the athletic ability, but could end up being better for this team if he brings it on defense.

The whole improvement with this team hinges on a dedication to defense and rebounding. Everyone wants to talk in terms of offense but if this team is to dance it will be through concentration on D and rebounding. If not, we will be the 18-13 or whatever you guys take such umbrage at.
 
Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed an chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks he made almost every game with his athletic ability.

You mean we'll miss the 12 & 6 he gave us last year and the 15 & 7 he would have given us this year. The attempts to spin the loss of Sampson as a plus are pathetic. He was the leading rebounder, 2nd scorer and had a dependable jumpshot....that he could create with his own dribble.

Can any of the current frontcourt players hit multiple jumpers per game? Do any of them have any offensive skill refinement at all? Can any of them create themselves or will they be 100% dependent on a well placed pass from Jordan around the basket? Do any of them besides Obekpa have the length to defend the post ?

Sampson and Sanchez were not the reasons for last seasons disappointment, Lavins coaching was. And if the team is better this season it will be due to Whitesell having more time to implement a system and develop the frontcourt guys....along with Lavin realizing that Greene should not run the point.

We did not lose because of any system or Greene at the point. We still stunk with Greene off the ball. This team is/was soft and never committed to what it takes to win. I am not here to praise Lavin as a coach but we lost because we had no grit; no fight, no D. Blame that on a coach and you can certainly make an argument but to me that is in each players heart and attitude; very tough to teach. The biggest factor this year IMO is Thomas because one player with cojones can change a team by doing it, by showing how it's done; here's hoping it happens..................
 
Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed an chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks he made almost every game with his athletic ability.

You mean we'll miss the 12 & 6 he gave us last year and the 15 & 7 he would have given us this year. The attempts to spin the loss of Sampson as a plus are pathetic. He was the leading rebounder, 2nd scorer and had a dependable jumpshot....that he could create with his own dribble.

Can any of the current frontcourt players hit multiple jumpers per game? Do any of them have any offensive skill refinement at all? Can any of them create themselves or will they be 100% dependent on a well placed pass from Jordan around the basket? Do any of them besides Obekpa have the length to defend the post ?

Sampson and Sanchez were not the reasons for last seasons disappointment, Lavins coaching was. And if the team is better this season it will be due to Whitesell having more time to implement a system and develop the frontcourt guys....along with Lavin realizing that Greene should not run the point.

Sampson could score, you can quantify that for sure. But where was his basketball sense? His selflessness? His desire to dominate his man (when quite honestly he could)? It was absent, his stats didn't translate to winning qualities. If you want an example, take the pen state game, he fouled a 3 point shooter, up 3, with seconds left. That game could have swung us in a whole different direction. 21-12 looks a lot better than 20-13
 
Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed an chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks he made almost every game with his athletic ability.

You mean we'll miss the 12 & 6 he gave us last year and the 15 & 7 he would have given us this year. The attempts to spin the loss of Sampson as a plus are pathetic. He was the leading rebounder, 2nd scorer and had a dependable jumpshot....that he could create with his own dribble.

Can any of the current frontcourt players hit multiple jumpers per game? Do any of them have any offensive skill refinement at all? Can any of them create themselves or will they be 100% dependent on a well placed pass from Jordan around the basket? Do any of them besides Obekpa have the length to defend the post ?

Sampson and Sanchez were not the reasons for last seasons disappointment, Lavins coaching was. And if the team is better this season it will be due to Whitesell having more time to implement a system and develop the frontcourt guys....along with Lavin realizing that Greene should not run the point.

Very shortsighted.
Who cares if we have a front court player that can "hit multiple jumpers per game"? Hitting jumpers comes very low down on the big man checklist. First, don't get absolutely owned and bulldozed every game fighting for space. Sampson and Sanchez were on ice skates all year. We had the worst interior defense in the conference even with Obekpa coming in third with minutes.

Who cares if our PF makes a SC Top Ten dunk. We need guys that will set solid screens, fight for position and rebounds on both ends, and create looks not compete for looks with our guards--the backbone of this team.

We started off 0-5 because it was every man for himself. Our "bigs" wanted to razzle and dazzle with jumpers and drives instead of doing the dirty work.
 
We’ll soon find out whether Sampson/Sanchez is addition by subtraction. But one big risk I see—and it's not a new one-- is that our opponents will pack the paint on defense and force us to rely on outside shooting, which is a known weakness of our team.
 
We’ll soon find out whether Sampson/Sanchez is addition by subtraction. But one big risk I see—and it's not a new one-- is that our opponents will pack the paint on defense and force us to rely on outside shooting, which is a known weakness of our team.

They did the past two seasons.
 
I am going to go out on a limb and say that we will:

1. Lose 2-4 games that we ought to win.
2. Have an unexpectedly great game or two someplace late in the season
3. That those unexpected games will do just enough to keep hope alive and the fan base interested.
4. Come up short of the NCAAs
5. Enter the NIT with high expectations and fizzle out.
 
Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed an chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks he made almost every game with his athletic ability.

You mean we'll miss the 12 & 6 he gave us last year and the 15 & 7 he would have given us this year. The attempts to spin the loss of Sampson as a plus are pathetic. He was the leading rebounder, 2nd scorer and had a dependable jumpshot....that he could create with his own dribble.

Can any of the current frontcourt players hit multiple jumpers per game? Do any of them have any offensive skill refinement at all? Can any of them create themselves or will they be 100% dependent on a well placed pass from Jordan around the basket? Do any of them besides Obekpa have the length to defend the post ?

Sampson and Sanchez were not the reasons for last seasons disappointment, Lavins coaching was. And if the team is better this season it will be due to Whitesell having more time to implement a system and develop the frontcourt guys....along with Lavin realizing that Greene should not run the point.

Very short-sighted.
Who cares if we have a front court player that can "hit multiple jumpers per game"? Hiting jumpers comes very low down on the big man checklist. First, don't get absolutely owned and bulldozed every game fighting for space. Sampson and Sanchez were on ice skates all year. W had the worst interior defense in the conference even with Obekpa coming in third withminutes.

Who cares if our PF makes a SC Top Ten dunk. We need guys that will set solid screens, fight for position and rebounds on both ends, and create looks no compete for looks with our guard--the backbone of this team.

We started off 0-5 because it was every man for himself. Our "bigs" wanted to razzle and dazzle with jumpers and drives instead of doing the dirty work.

No, we started 0-5 because the offense lacked any structure and coherence due to the head "coach" having no understanding of spacing, ball movement or technique. The reason the guys did not set good screens is because their coach couldn't teach them proper technique & timing for it. The reason they were out of position is because their coach doesn't have a clue himself about positioning.

Everyone of our opponents who watched that team knew they had no structure and had not been well coached in technique. Everyone except the Lavin apologists here who themselves have the b-ball IQ of infants.
 
I am going to go out on a limb and say that we will:

1. Lose 2-4 games that we ought to win.
2. Have an unexpectedly great game or two someplace late in the season
3. That those unexpected games will do just enough to keep hope alive and the fan base interested.
4. Come up short of the NCAAs
5. Enter the NIT with high expectations and fizzle out.

In NIT must avoid Robert Morris at all costs. :unsure:
 
We’ll soon find out whether Sampson/Sanchez is addition by subtraction. But one big risk I see—and it's not a new one-- is that our opponents will pack the paint on defense and force us to rely on outside shooting, which is a known weakness of our team.

They did the past two seasons.

I know, that's my point. Look where it got us. I fear Jordan will get frustrated as well.
 
Sampson was a tough case. His athletic ability and potential were out of this world, but he killed an chance of chemistry with his jumpshots at any time, place he wanted to take them. He also played lousy defense 95% of the year and didn't do the little things that a PF has to do to make his team better: screening, passing, establishing position, etc. Having Sanchez next to him only made things much worse.

He was a beast on the glass and I think he could and should have led the country in offensive rebounding, but his heart wasn't in it to be that kind of player.

We'll certainly miss the 2-4 dunks he made almost every game with his athletic ability.

You mean we'll miss the 12 & 6 he gave us last year and the 15 & 7 he would have given us this year. The attempts to spin the loss of Sampson as a plus are pathetic. He was the leading rebounder, 2nd scorer and had a dependable jumpshot....that he could create with his own dribble.

Can any of the current frontcourt players hit multiple jumpers per game? Do any of them have any offensive skill refinement at all? Can any of them create themselves or will they be 100% dependent on a well placed pass from Jordan around the basket? Do any of them besides Obekpa have the length to defend the post ?

Sampson and Sanchez were not the reasons for last seasons disappointment, Lavins coaching was. And if the team is better this season it will be due to Whitesell having more time to implement a system and develop the frontcourt guys....along with Lavin realizing that Greene should not run the point.

Very short-sighted.
Who cares if we have a front court player that can "hit multiple jumpers per game"? Hiting jumpers comes very low down on the big man checklist. First, don't get absolutely owned and bulldozed every game fighting for space. Sampson and Sanchez were on ice skates all year. W had the worst interior defense in the conference even with Obekpa coming in third withminutes.

Who cares if our PF makes a SC Top Ten dunk. We need guys that will set solid screens, fight for position and rebounds on both ends, and create looks no compete for looks with our guard--the backbone of this team.

We started off 0-5 because it was every man for himself. Our "bigs" wanted to razzle and dazzle with jumpers and drives instead of doing the dirty work.

No, we started 0-5 because the offense lacked any structure and coherence due to the head "coach" having no understanding of spacing, ball movement or technique. The reason the guys did not set good screens is because their coach couldn't teach them proper technique & timing for it. The reason they were out of position is because their coach doesn't have a clue himself about positioning.

Everyone of our opponents who watched that team knew they had no structure and had not been well coached in technique. Everyone except the Lavin apologists here who themselves have the b-ball IQ of infants.

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Unfortunately both here and at UCLA Lavin has started slow almost every season. But at UCLA his teams came along very strongly in the end, not so much at STJ yet.

I definitely think there is a sense of urgency with the players right now. Jordan is trying to go pro, Harrison and Greene know it's their last chance to do big things here, so I think maybe that could lead to a good early start. It's unpredictable, but we will see.

I think that sounds very nice to say, but both Sanchez and Sampson were supposed to have a sense of urgency to enhance their chances at going pro, and that didn't turn out very well. For us to get out of the gates quickly and become a tourney team, there needs to be significant change. I can understand Marillac's opinion that Sanchez/Sampson loss is addition by subtraction, but the talent level of those who are replacing them is in question.

To me at least the substantive change necessary to become a winner has to be the maturation of Jordan as a player. The torch has to be passed and Jordan must log a lot of minutes and have the ball in his hands. We've seen how he can slice up defenses, and create easy baskets for his teammates. We can't have Greene/Harrison holding the ball too much. Our front line must rebound and defend. Pointer must be so much more than an occasional positive contributor. If Harrison yields to Jordan's superior overall ability, he can have his best season yet, as he can be the prime beneficiary of Jordan's ability to dish.

Can this team win? Yes. Will they? We shall see.


I understand your point from a Sanchez POV, but honestly I've been seeing a lot of Sampson hate on the board and I don't understand it. He had a bit of crisis in the beginning of the year, taking threes, trying to show off. Then for the most part he played solid for us all year. One of our best rebounders, and other than Harrison, our most consistent form of offense was his elbow jumper. Sampson was a solid player for us, and I know some want to spin it differently because they are still mad he prematurely left, but he played well for us for two years.

Obviously Sampson's season is not the topic of discussion, but I just feel like the idea of him "showing off for pro scouts" the entire season has been accepted as a fact when I don't think it's true. Remember the article about Sampson at the end of the year where he backed up the claims I'm making now?

But anyway, the rest of your post I agree with 100%, but had to get the Sampson thing off my chest.

I'm one of the few here that really liked Sampson's game. To me, and I may be wrong, his season turned around at CA either against SH or Prov when he had a vicious one handed slam put back of an errant shot on the Utopia PArkway side that was a highlight reel dunk. From there he seemed to catch fire, be his typical reliable 15 feet and in. I expected him to be good for 16-17 pts per game this year had he stayed.

I don't think Sampson started out the season selfish, I just think he was in an incredible funk where there was no easy shots for him. He was as likely to miff a 5 foot jumper or a wide open layup and a 17 foot shot.
 
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