2014/15 Line up

With the word that obekpa is returning, we are starting to look pretty good next year,


Starters

G - Jordan
G - DLo
G - Greene
F - Chris Jones
C - Obekpa

Bench

G - Branch
G - Balamou
F - ADR
F - JDR
F - Thomas (maybe)
F - Marlon Jones (maybe)
F - Adom Jacko (maybe)

I know Pointer is bad but he is going to get some playing time.


Lol. I knew I was forgetting someone. When I told my dad yesterday that Greene was staying he said "that's fine, I like him. It's pointer who should take a walk!"
 
Is Antoine Mason no longer a possibility?

Word has been he's leaving niagara for a month now, but no official announcement has been made whether he is staying or going. If he chooses to leave niagara we are the obvious choice for him.
 
Per niagara board Mason is participating in off season workouts with niagara. Don't know if that means anything.
 
Per niagara board Mason is participating in off season workouts with niagara. Don't know if that means anything.

Whatever you you do, please break the news to marillac gently.
 
Per niagar
a board Mason is participating in off season workouts with niagara. Don't know if that means anything.

Marillac driving up Niagara to see him personally, toting a barrel. :$
 
Per niagara board Mason is participating in off season workouts with niagara. Don't know if that means anything.

Whatever you you do, please break the news to marillac gently.

LOL I posted this already. The same board thinks he is a goner. More importantly...others think he is a goner ;)
I wouldn't expect a decision from him until he finishes up his classes. For his sake I hope he leaves. It would be a mistake to return.
 
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein · 17h
Early prediction on St. John's 14-15 starting five --- Rysheed Jordan, Jamal Branch, D'Angelo Harrison, Dom Pointer, Chris Obekpa. #sjubb

Greene would be just swell with that, I'm sure. And is this supposed to be Pointer's breakout year?
 
Any chance that Pointer can drastically improve his game next season. He is such a great athlete.
 
Any chance that Pointer can drastically improve his game next season. He is such a great athlete.

The only place to go is up. Thats the best thing I can say about him. I like him much more as a PF than I do a SG. I wouldnt start him over christian jones tho.
 
Any chance that Pointer can drastically improve his game next season. He is such a great athlete.

Absolutely. The most important thing is for him to adopt a new mindset. He had a decent soph season and I really believe that the NIT game-winning trey was the worst possible thing that could have happened to him and us. He came in thinking that he could be a point-forward--Lavin even encouraged that by saying Dom can play some point. No, he can't. We don't need that anyway. We have a damn good point guard already. His backup was the #52 recruit in the country and has excellent vision, handle, and passing ability. Harrison also has a very steady handle and vision. Greene doesn't have the vision or feel, but he never turns it over. Nobody else should be handling the ball more than a few bounces. We need an athletic 220 pound wing to create and prolong possessions and play menacing defense. If we have Pointer, Thomas, and Obekpa crashing class consistently on offense, we will kill zone defenses. A huge part of the reason zones ate us alive is because we didn't take advantage of the main weakness of the zone: rebounding. Any team that didn't zone us was just foolish.

He's one of the ten best athletes that I've seen in the country. He needs to add 10-15 pounds of muscle and he needs his shot to become respectable from three. He needs to learn to play better man to man defense...he was exceptional as a soph jumping passing lanes and creating things on defense, but he's never been a good on ball defender. We could really us a kid that did what Paris did for us a few years ago...creating things out of thin air.

We'll know right away. If he hasn't changed, I just hope that coach will give my boy Balamou some time. I have no doubt that kid will be able to give us that Paris type of production with more rebounds.
 
Any chance that Pointer can drastically improve his game next season. He is such a great athlete.

Absolutely. The most important thing is for him to adopt a new mindset. He had a decent soph season and I really believe that the NIT game-winning trey was the worst possible thing that could have happened to him and us. He came in thinking that he could be a point-forward--Lavin even encouraged that by saying Dom can play some point. No, he can't. We don't need that anyway. We have a damn good point guard already. His backup was the #52 recruit in the country and has excellent vision, handle, and passing ability. Harrison also has a very steady handle and vision. Greene doesn't have the vision or feel, but he never turns it over. Nobody else should be handling the ball more than a few bounces. We need an athletic 220 pound wing to create and prolong possessions and play menacing defense. If we have Pointer, Thomas, and Obekpa crashing class consistently on offense, we will kill zone defenses. A huge part of the reason zones ate us alive is because we didn't take advantage of the main weakness of the zone: rebounding. Any team that didn't zone us was just foolish.

He's one of the ten best athletes that I've seen in the country. He needs to add 10-15 pounds of muscle and he needs his shot to become respectable from three. He needs to learn to play better man to man defense...he was exceptional as a soph jumping passing lanes and creating things on defense, but he's never been a good on ball defender. We could really us a kid that did what Paris did for us a few years ago...creating things out of thin air.

We'll know right away. If he hasn't changed, I just hope that coach will give my boy Balamou some time. I have no doubt that kid will be able to give us that Paris type of production with more rebounds.

I am rooting for Pointer because I think Balamou needs another year.
 
As a Soph, Pointer had a fairly reliable jumper. This past season, his confidence was totally shot. I have no idea why. Hopefully, he gets it back. I don't think he will be Reggie Miller, but I hope he can get to the point where defenses have to play him honestly.
 
Marillac, respectfully have to disagree. Dom doesn't choose not to rebound ...many times he guards the opposing ball handler or is at the top of a 1-3-1: and on offense Lavins system keeps him at the top of the key or in the corner beyond the arc. Dom is actually a good rebounder and a tough player. I don't think there's anything wrong with his mindset either.
But you can't have him guard the opposing point guard, or be at the top of the press/trap, and also ask him to grab 5+ defensive rebounds. Those aren't compatible goals.
I love Dlo, and I think he's a very good rebounder for his size. But you know what? He often plays the baseline when were in a 2-3, or at least on the wing. He is virtually never guarding the primary ball handler.
Let's not kid ourselves, Dom is a much better rebounder than Dangelo, but he's never in that opportune of a space on the court.

IMO, Dom needs confidence more than anything else. Stop hesitating on offense and he'll be fine.
 
Marillac, respectfully have to disagree. Dom doesn't choose not to rebound ...many times he guards the opposing ball handler or is at the top of a 1-3-1: and on offense Lavins system keeps him at the top of the key or in the corner beyond the arc. Dom is actually a good rebounder and a tough player. I don't think there's anything wrong with his mindset either.
But you can't have him guard the opposing point guard, or be at the top of the press/trap, and also ask him to grab 5+ defensive rebounds. Those aren't compatible goals.
I love Dlo, and I think he's a very good rebounder for his size. But you know what? He often plays the baseline when were in a 2-3, or at least on the wing. He is virtually never guarding the primary ball handler.
Let's not kid ourselves, Dom is a much better rebounder than Dangelo, but he's never in that opportune of a space on the court.

IMO, Dom needs confidence more than anything else. Stop hesitating on offense and he'll be fine.

100% correct.

in fairness, however, it appears that Dom has done nothing to improve his jump shot, and he also mostly refuses to take it (those two things may go together). He is also far too reluctant to take the ball to the rim. His mindset is to play defense, hustle, and give the ball to somebody else, maybe dunk on a breakaway and that's it. Some of that is on the staff, but in this case I think most of it is on Dom.

In addition, his play this season was indefensibly brainless. I don't think I have ever seen a player regress as much mentally as Dom has in his SJU career.

It's frustrating, because I love his ability, his hustle, and his willingness to do the dirty work. But it's hard to defend playing him when he plays the way he did this year. Hopefully either he or the staff or both can do something to get more production out of him. Would be a terrible waste if they didn't.
 
Marillac, respectfully have to disagree. Dom doesn't choose not to rebound ...many times he guards the opposing ball handler or is at the top of a 1-3-1: and on offense Lavins system keeps him at the top of the key or in the corner beyond the arc. Dom is actually a good rebounder and a tough player. I don't think there's anything wrong with his mindset either.
But you can't have him guard the opposing point guard, or be at the top of the press/trap, and also ask him to grab 5+ defensive rebounds. Those aren't compatible goals.
I love Dlo, and I think he's a very good rebounder for his size. But you know what? He often plays the baseline when were in a 2-3, or at least on the wing. He is virtually never guarding the primary ball handler.
Let's not kid ourselves, Dom is a much better rebounder than Dangelo, but he's never in that opportune of a space on the court.

IMO, Dom needs confidence more than anything else. Stop hesitating on offense and he'll be fine.

It goes much, much deeper than confidence. The kid was flat out playing the wrong role all last season. There are two sides to rebounding. Dom is okay on the defensive side, but he was one of the worst offensive rebounders I have ever seen last season and, given his horrible offensive skill set, that KILLED us. Harrison and Jordan have the instincts and toughness to put themselves in situations that make it look like they just got lucky for rebounds. Dom would just stand on the perimeter when shots when up and he had an angle to the basket. He wouldn't even move. If he is going to do that again, he is worthless. We aren't that good of an offensive team to have our SF just stand there like he's directing traffic. We certainly aren't that good when his poor offense is in the game.
 
Marillac, respectfully have to disagree. Dom doesn't choose not to rebound ...many times he guards the opposing ball handler or is at the top of a 1-3-1: and on offense Lavins system keeps him at the top of the key or in the corner beyond the arc. Dom is actually a good rebounder and a tough player. I don't think there's anything wrong with his mindset either.
But you can't have him guard the opposing point guard, or be at the top of the press/trap, and also ask him to grab 5+ defensive rebounds. Those aren't compatible goals.
I love Dlo, and I think he's a very good rebounder for his size. But you know what? He often plays the baseline when were in a 2-3, or at least on the wing. He is virtually never guarding the primary ball handler.
Let's not kid ourselves, Dom is a much better rebounder than Dangelo, but he's never in that opportune of a space on the court.

IMO, Dom needs confidence more than anything else. Stop hesitating on offense and he'll be fine.

You really think dom is a much better rebounder than Dlo? The same situations you gave for Dom can be applied to dlo. Dom was on the bottom side of the court as much or more than Dlo. How often did dom really guard the opponents point guard? Really not that much. In my opinion, id say the opposite is true, Dlo is a much better rebounder than Dom.
 
Marillac, respectfully have to disagree. Dom doesn't choose not to rebound ...many times he guards the opposing ball handler or is at the top of a 1-3-1: and on offense Lavins system keeps him at the top of the key or in the corner beyond the arc. Dom is actually a good rebounder and a tough player. I don't think there's anything wrong with his mindset either.
But you can't have him guard the opposing point guard, or be at the top of the press/trap, and also ask him to grab 5+ defensive rebounds. Those aren't compatible goals.
I love Dlo, and I think he's a very good rebounder for his size. But you know what? He often plays the baseline when were in a 2-3, or at least on the wing. He is virtually never guarding the primary ball handler.
Let's not kid ourselves, Dom is a much better rebounder than Dangelo, but he's never in that opportune of a space on the court.

IMO, Dom needs confidence more than anything else. Stop hesitating on offense and he'll be fine.

It goes much, much deeper than confidence. The kid was flat out playing the wrong role all last season. There are two sides to rebounding. Dom is okay on the defensive side, but he was one of the worst offensive rebounders I have ever seen last season and, given his horrible offensive skill set, that KILLED us. Harrison and Jordan have the instincts and toughness to put themselves in situations that make it look like they just got lucky for rebounds. Dom would just stand on the perimeter when shots when up and he had an angle to the basket. He wouldn't even move. If he is going to do that again, he is worthless. We aren't that good of an offensive team to have our SF just stand there like he's directing traffic. We certainly aren't that good when his poor offense is in the game.

In our system, who usually had responsibility to get back to defend against the break?
 
Any chance that Pointer can drastically improve his game next season. He is such a great athlete.

The only place to go is up. Thats the best thing I can say about him. I like him much more as a PF than I do a SG. I wouldnt start him over christian jones tho.

Problem is he's neither.
 
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