boo haarvey
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[quote="Moose" post=395824][quote="Boo Harvey" post=395816][quote="Moose" post=395815][quote="Boo Harvey" post=395814][quote="Moose" post=395813][quote="Boo Harvey" post=395803][quote="Moose" post=395796]This season is such a wash. To me no point in using the ship save it for next year. It is what it is this season if there even is one.[/quote]
If we use the ship on a grad transfer this year, we have it for next year. Not sure I follow your logic.[/quote]
As someone already answered he may be granted another year if this year doesn’t happen or maybe he chooses not to play as well. I’d rather plan for the long term. If anything look at 21 kids who with no high school season might be able to move up a class. That is a better calculated risk[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Passing on a potential impact grad student (not opining on whether this kid is that) with one year of eligibility bc: (i) the season might get cancelled; (ii) he might be granted another year of eligibility; and (iii) he might come back seems speculative to put it mildly.
If the season is cancelled, schools are not going to lose their ability to fill scholarships for the following year. If that were the case, schools would have to rescind offers to kids who have already committed.
The risk of signing up a kid with one year eligibility strikes me as infinitesimal and the up-side — with the right recruit — is large.
Particularly with our struggles in recruiting, I think it’s critical that we have a season this year and that we achieve demonstrable success. We should do everything we can to make that happen.
In any event, scholarships are renewable each year. We have no obligation to renew a grad transfer’s scholarship for a second year. I’m struggling to see a downside.[/quote]
1. I don’t see anyone impactful coming up. Now what happens with football. Do they let kids transfer for free from conferences that canceled. That we don’t know
2. Last spring sports were cancelled. Didn’t effect basketball but of course those sports aren’t as finite as 13 ships. Also those kids likely don’t have pro careers hanging in the balance so many just packed up and graduated not electing to come back to school for another year to play.
I still don’t see a season happening and if it does it will be a sham abbreviated season so to me go at it with what you have. Is anyone gonna take this year seriously. If a team struggles a coach likely won’t be fired. Schools will still be operating heavy losses. Just seems like a wash.
Again keep eye on reclassified kids who with no HS season might be able to come mid year. Rather have a long term impact. We’re building.
3. If we took a grad transfer and there was no year and he wanted to stay you would boot him ? I mean I’m pretty sure a staff is having him come to play ball not take a few grad classes. We don’t know what will happen with ships and all the rules. Back to point one I don’t see anyone impactful transferring unless the conferences become the Wild West. Let’s see the football fallout.[/quote]
I’d continue to recruit and planned as if the season is going to happen. We should give ourselves every opportunity to be successful this year. If the season gets cancelled, that’s out of our control.
I could be wrong, but the idea of getting a quality HS kid to reclassify and commit mid-year strikes me as a pipe dream. If we find a grad transfer with talent or one that meets a need, we should grab him.[/quote]
No offense but you think most of the time that any quality HS kid isn’t coming here.
If a 21 kid who was a 2 kid is in HS and there is no HS season but college is going on. And the kid has a chance start training with a college team instead I would consider it if I was the kid. Hamadou Diallo enrolled early in Kentucky a few years again. Trained for half a year then played one year before NBA. The world is upside down right now when it comes to college athletes. Just something to consider if a kid is able.
Also remember test score requirements were loosened.[/quote]
No offense taken. You’re correct that I am skeptical of our ability to attract top high school talent right now. A skepticism that has been borne out by our current recruiting.
I recognize it’s crazy times, but it seems highly unlikely that there would be a significant number of quality high school kids coming out mid-year, let alone signing up with us. If the opportunity presents itself and we have a scholarship open, we should definitely go for it. But we shouldn’t constrain ourselves now holding out for that possibility.
If we use the ship on a grad transfer this year, we have it for next year. Not sure I follow your logic.[/quote]
As someone already answered he may be granted another year if this year doesn’t happen or maybe he chooses not to play as well. I’d rather plan for the long term. If anything look at 21 kids who with no high school season might be able to move up a class. That is a better calculated risk[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Passing on a potential impact grad student (not opining on whether this kid is that) with one year of eligibility bc: (i) the season might get cancelled; (ii) he might be granted another year of eligibility; and (iii) he might come back seems speculative to put it mildly.
If the season is cancelled, schools are not going to lose their ability to fill scholarships for the following year. If that were the case, schools would have to rescind offers to kids who have already committed.
The risk of signing up a kid with one year eligibility strikes me as infinitesimal and the up-side — with the right recruit — is large.
Particularly with our struggles in recruiting, I think it’s critical that we have a season this year and that we achieve demonstrable success. We should do everything we can to make that happen.
In any event, scholarships are renewable each year. We have no obligation to renew a grad transfer’s scholarship for a second year. I’m struggling to see a downside.[/quote]
1. I don’t see anyone impactful coming up. Now what happens with football. Do they let kids transfer for free from conferences that canceled. That we don’t know
2. Last spring sports were cancelled. Didn’t effect basketball but of course those sports aren’t as finite as 13 ships. Also those kids likely don’t have pro careers hanging in the balance so many just packed up and graduated not electing to come back to school for another year to play.
I still don’t see a season happening and if it does it will be a sham abbreviated season so to me go at it with what you have. Is anyone gonna take this year seriously. If a team struggles a coach likely won’t be fired. Schools will still be operating heavy losses. Just seems like a wash.
Again keep eye on reclassified kids who with no HS season might be able to come mid year. Rather have a long term impact. We’re building.
3. If we took a grad transfer and there was no year and he wanted to stay you would boot him ? I mean I’m pretty sure a staff is having him come to play ball not take a few grad classes. We don’t know what will happen with ships and all the rules. Back to point one I don’t see anyone impactful transferring unless the conferences become the Wild West. Let’s see the football fallout.[/quote]
I’d continue to recruit and planned as if the season is going to happen. We should give ourselves every opportunity to be successful this year. If the season gets cancelled, that’s out of our control.
I could be wrong, but the idea of getting a quality HS kid to reclassify and commit mid-year strikes me as a pipe dream. If we find a grad transfer with talent or one that meets a need, we should grab him.[/quote]
No offense but you think most of the time that any quality HS kid isn’t coming here.
If a 21 kid who was a 2 kid is in HS and there is no HS season but college is going on. And the kid has a chance start training with a college team instead I would consider it if I was the kid. Hamadou Diallo enrolled early in Kentucky a few years again. Trained for half a year then played one year before NBA. The world is upside down right now when it comes to college athletes. Just something to consider if a kid is able.
Also remember test score requirements were loosened.[/quote]
No offense taken. You’re correct that I am skeptical of our ability to attract top high school talent right now. A skepticism that has been borne out by our current recruiting.
I recognize it’s crazy times, but it seems highly unlikely that there would be a significant number of quality high school kids coming out mid-year, let alone signing up with us. If the opportunity presents itself and we have a scholarship open, we should definitely go for it. But we shouldn’t constrain ourselves now holding out for that possibility.
