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Those were in very different eras from this one. The days of bringing in a class of freshmen and growing a program over 4 years are gone.

Look at Pitino at SJU, Kelsey at Louisville, Pope at Kentucky, May at Michigan, etc. That's the model now.
And, again, who are these building blocks at Villanova that Kyle Neptune as amassed that has shown he's building something?
 
Kyle Neptune certainly deserves another season IMHO, he replaced a legend, and to date he is not a legend. But neither was Jay Wright his first few seasons. This last week he has beaten 2 top 25 teams, if that is not showing improvement I don’t know what improvement is. He has not embarrassed the school in any way and continues to learn on the job. Let’s see how they finish this season.
 
Kyle Neptune certainly deserves another season IMHO, he replaced a legend, and to date he is not a legend. But neither was Jay Wright his first few seasons. This last week he has beaten 2 top 25 teams, if that is not showing improvement I don’t know what improvement is. He has not embarrassed the school in any way and continues to learn on the job. Let’s see how they finish this season.
Sounds like what every coach in the Big East was saying about Norm throughout his entire tenure
 
Kyle Neptune certainly deserves another season IMHO, he replaced a legend, and to date he is not a legend. But neither was Jay Wright his first few seasons. This last week he has beaten 2 top 25 teams, if that is not showing improvement I don’t know what improvement is. He has not embarrassed the school in any way and continues to learn on the job. Let’s see how they finish this season.
In the last week his team also got waxed by a mediocre Providence team and folded down the stretch against UConn
 
Not even close. This is his third year and record has improved every year. He will be back next year, book it.
Well as a St. John's fan I sure hope you're right but unless they win the BET at minimum I don't see how they don't pull the plug on him after this year.
 
Those were in very different eras from this one. The days of bringing in a class of freshmen and growing a program over 4 years are gone.

Look at Pitino at SJU, Kelsey at Louisville, Pope at Kentucky, May at Michigan, etc. That's the model now.
Easy to cite the successes, but there are plenty of new coaches following that “formula” floundering.
And coaches learning and growing on the job and becoming better at their craft doesn’t go away because the rules change.
But thanks for pointing out a fact that I clearly referenced twice in my post, namely the differences in the game.
 
Sounds like what every coach in the Big East was saying about Norm throughout his entire tenure
Norm had a losing record at his prior head coaching job. Kyle did an excellent job at Fordham in his only year there. There were those of us who knew he was a very bad choice from the start.
 
In the last week his team also got waxed by a mediocre Providence team and folded down the stretch against UConn
Yes I am fully aware but I was pointing out his improvement and the fact that while not a legend as of yet neither was Jay Wright after his first few seasons.
 
Norm had a losing record at his prior head coaching job. Kyle did an excellent job at Fordham in his only year there. There were those of us who knew he was a very bad choice from the start.
He went 16-16 in his only season there which is solid by Fordham standards but far from excellent.

Keith Urgo went 25-8 there in his first year. He didn’t get any bigger jobs from that and might be on the hot seat soon now
 
He went 16-16 in his only season there which is solid by Fordham standards but far from excellent.

Keith Urgo went 25-8 there in his first year. He didn’t get any bigger jobs from that and might be on the hot seat soon now
Their leading scorer, Antonio Daye Jr., left 14 games into season due to personal reasons. Might have won a few more than 16 with him during conf
 
He went 16-16 in his only season there which is solid by Fordham standards but far from excellent.

Keith Urgo went 25-8 there in his first year. He didn’t get any bigger jobs from that and might be on the hot seat soon now
Not knowledgeable enough about Fordham but I remember the consensus was people were very happy.
Needless to say he left the program in much better place for Urgo.
 
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