Zags reporting MA Will Be Brought Back. Please boycott the games and donations

[JohnnyFan]

I see a lot of conjecture about how much power Cragg has and whether Shanley will make the call. Having some experience with how schools work, I imagine it will be most like the manner Monte suggested. It's not as simple as determining which one person is making the hire. Instead of imagining a single decision maker, consider something like the following process.

Cragg might be in charge of defining a pool of candidates and networking within the athletics arena. If Shanley wants a specific candidate included, Cragg will investigate that candidate's availability and interest. Cragg might also be in charge of vetting all candidates and conducting preliminary meetings/interviews. Shanley may or may not choose to be a part of this phase.

Craig is likely to have an opportunity to make a recommendation, but by the end of the process Shanley will be heavily involved and this will be a joint decision. After all, due to the financial impact of the hire, Shanley will have to sell their plan to the BOT and both men will be at the press conference championing the hire.

Again, I am not pretending to know how it will work. However, this scenario is more plausible than one person being ordained to make the decision.

 

[dwcross]

It shouldn’t matter if MA gets lucky and puts together a win streak. The body of work sets the picture. If MA is back next season then i am not.

This is make or break time. Shit or get off the pot.

 

[stjohnnie75]

Many schools utilize search firms to seek out candidates through agents and intermediaries to find qualified candidates.

An agent/ attorney for a coach can contact the school’s search service, and the service can contact the coach/ wxecutive’s agent. This indirect method allows both school and coaches to commence behind the scene discussions and plausible denial. Collegiate Consulting, and Collegiate Sports Consulting are just a two of the search services.

Unfortunately when Mullin unexpectedly quit late in the cycle St. John’s was unable to fully utilize a long term third party search.

In the past St. John’s has used Collegiate Sports Consulting.

I would suggest using a different search firm this time around.

 

[mjmaherjr]

I would suggest using a different search firm this time around.

let's just use linkedin cant be any worse than the past search processes

 

[SJUWillRockNYC]

"After all, due to the financial impact of the hire, Shanley will have to sell their plan to the BOT and both men will be at the press conference championing the hire."

As I figured, they have the final say.

 

[TonyinFairfield]

I don't usually post during games because I'm not good at multi-tasking. Interpret that as you see fit.

That I can do. But I’m still trying to figure out what the hell is this “digital collectible” the school is offering today!!

 

[mjmaherjr]

That I can do. But I’m still trying to figure out what the hell is this “digital collectible” the school is offering today!!

Yeah let’s just say they will save on that promo with me

 

[JohnnyFan]

"After all, due to the financial impact of the hire, Shanley will have to sell their plan to the BOT and both men will be at the press conference championing the hire."

As I figured, they have the final say.

Well.....there would have to be some consensus. The BOT cannot unilaterally make a hire. They can only approve (or deny) recommendations made by the university president. Of course, I am sure there will be BOT members who will be vocal about who, or what types of candidates they are willing to support.

 

[Johnny Rapper]

As I've said countless times before, Cragg is looking for a reason-any reason-to keep CMA. And a tourney run would give him more then enough reason.

Obviously cause Cragg was the fool who gave CMA the absurd extended contract. Anderson’s not the only one that needs to be terminated.

 

[monte]

Obviously cause Cragg was the fool who gave CMA the absurd extended contract. Anderson’s not the only one that needs to be terminated.

JR I'm sure the decision to extend CMA falls on more then just Cragg, so there's enough blame to go around. But even if it was all Cragg's, and the school is happy with the job he's doing overall, they're not getting rid of him.

 

[IDRAFT]

One thing to remember about Cragg is he was also extended and would have to be bought out. He’s not going anywhere.

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

Past Performances and History are often important factors in making decisions . FR Shanley , while at Providence , fired Tim Welsh and Beno Davis before hiring Cooley . And , I believe Davis might have earned a Coach of the Year Award at Drake before he even came to the Friars . I’m guessing about that and didn’t fact check it . The Friar Town Group , their equivalent to ours , usually had very favorable commentary about Fr Shanley on all things PC . Davis wore out his tenure at PC rather quickly .

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

Past Performances and History are often important factors in making decisions . FR Shanley , while at Providence , fired Tim Welsh and Beno Davis before hiring Cooley . And , I believe Davis might have earned a Coach of the Year Award at Drake before he even came to the Friars . I’m guessing about that and didn’t fact check it . The Friar Town Group , their equivalent to ours , usually had very favorable commentary about Fr Shanley on all things PC . Davis wore out his tenure at PC rather quickly .

Keno Davis , not Beno . My mistake .

 

[SJU85]

It is someone who has an agenda but not sure it is pro-Anderson as much as it is sour grapes with SJU.

Think about it, the entire argument for bringing him back is not because he is a good coach or has done a good job but because SJU f'd up and did not negotiate a better buyout and they are too cheap to buy him out now. That is a helluva an endorsement to keep a coach.

How would you like that on your Wikipedia page as a Coach, was retained by SJU for a 5th season because they did not want to pay his buyout.

It wouldn’t be the first time a school kept a coach due to the buyout. But then you have the case of Nebraska who renegotiated their football coach’s contract at the end of the previous season lowering his salary and the buyout on the back end of his contract. He probably should have been fired last year after the season but to avoid the $15M buyout they kept him only to fire him three games into this season and having to pay him the $15M anyway. Note, they could have waited few weeks and on October 1st, the buyout dropped in half but they decided they couldn’t wait.

While we don’t have football money, keeping someone when something is not working out just to avoid paying a buy-out strikes me as a no win situation and a recipe to disaster.

 

[otis]

Obviously cause Cragg was the fool who gave CMA the absurd extended contract. Anderson’s not the only one that needs to be terminated.

Cragg is not a fool.

 

[kranmars]

Cragg is not a fool.

I agree, Cragg is not a fool. But extending Anderson when he did was foolish.

There. Split the difference.

 

[Jack Williams]

Zagoria being a mega hater on St. John’s on twitter right now.

Clearly someone over in Jamaica cut him off or something and he’s lashing out. Only reason he published that article

Dudes a loser

 

[Johnny Rapper]

Cragg is not a fool.

You’re right, he’s a smart man for giving a coach who hadn’t make a post season tournament and who no one else wanted an extended contract after two years. Which now puts the school in a financial bind. You’re right he’s not a fool, he’s a big fool.

 

[Johnny Rapper]

JR I'm sure the decision to extend CMA falls on more then just Cragg, so there's enough blame to go around. But even if it was all Cragg's, and the school is happy with the job he's doing overall, they're not getting rid of him.

It was Cragg’s idea, Shanley approved it.

 

[ronm]

It was Cragg’s idea, Shanley approved it.

And you know that how?