Yakwe Transferring

[quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.
 
This transfer should surprise no one. For some bizarre reason he didn't dress for the Providence game because he was sick yet he sat on the bench. We were shorthanded already because Ponds was out. CM and crew tipped their hand. I think its probably best for Yakwe as he never improved from year one. I am not close enough to understand why.

Wish him luck, by all accounts he is a good young man. If he sits a year he could do well at good mid-major level.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

If I had a hunch id guess the majority of transfers come from teams with losing records. The Big East hasn't had too many losing teams the last few years but some of those teams have still had guys transfer out. Quite simply, we start winning gamea and kids will stay here.

Also, it's true Mullins entire first class is gone. Not a huge surprise considering he has to immediately fill out an entire roster on short notice but then was recruiting over them with better players in year two. Diasapointing but not a shock.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.
 
WHO CARES We all knew this was coming.Have to replace him with a better player thats all that matters to me. He will do fine in life Wish him the best
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote] We would loose 2 1/2 players before the season started w Lavin when you count inelligible players, decommits,etc.
 
I will say though with how highly ranked Yakwe came in and how much promise he showed early, it's a big disappointment he didn't develop here. I put that on the staff.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote]


Off the top of my head, under Lavin we lost Polee, Lyndsay, Harkless (since people are going to include Ponds on this list if he leaves early to go pro, we have to include Harkless let alone we also lost Mussini and Freudenberg who went back home to go pro) and Garrett. I am not a betting man, but if someone actually looks it up, it might turn out to be more than five 72. However your point is taken.
 
[quote="SJU85" post=279708][quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote]


Off the top of my head, under Lavin we lost Polee, Lyndsay, Harkless (since people are going to include Ponds on this list if he leaves early to go pro, we have to include Harkless let alone we also lost Mussini and Freudenberg who went back home to go pro) and Garrett. I am not a betting man, but if someone actually looks it up, it might turn out to be more than five 72. However your point is taken.[/quote] I don’t remember everybody but count Pelle,ADR,Thomas,Thompson , the parking lot transcript guy,,Gathers etc. We lost Lindsey and Stith after 1 semester. That said, the revolving door is a problem. But it is becoming more widespread and we re not the only one w this problem. Hense, the long list of transfers.
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279709][quote="SJU85" post=279708][quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote]


Off the top of my head, under Lavin we lost Polee, Lyndsay, Harkless (since people are going to include Ponds on this list if he leaves early to go pro, we have to include Harkless let alone we also lost Mussini and Freudenberg who went back home to go pro) and Garrett. I am not a betting man, but if someone actually looks it up, it might turn out to be more than five 72. However your point is taken.[/quote]


" I don’t remember everybody but count Pelle,ADR,Thomas,Thompson , the parking lot transcript guy,,Gathers etc. We lost Lindsey and Stith after 1 semester. That said, the revolving door is a problem. But it is becoming more widespread and we re not the only one w this problem. Hense, the long list of transfers.[/quote]"

If you are going to count players recruited who never registered then you may as well count every recruit offered by Mullin which would make the number astronomical.;)
Only ADR would count based on registered players. I don't recall Thompson. Refresh my memory.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=279718][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279709][quote="SJU85" post=279708][quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote] Hes the big that we really could have used. If I am remembering the name right. HS transcript exchanged in parking lot and Coach did illegal things. Don’t know if he ever enrolled anywhere.

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote]


Off the top of my head, under Lavin we lost Polee, Lyndsay, Harkless (since people are going to include Ponds on this list if he leaves early to go pro, we have to include Harkless let alone we also lost Mussini and Freudenberg who went back home to go pro) and Garrett. I am not a betting man, but if someone actually looks it up, it might turn out to be more than five 72. However your point is taken.[/quote]


" I don’t remember everybody but count Pelle,ADR,Thomas,Thompson , the parking lot transcript guy,,Gathers etc. We lost Lindsey and Stith after 1 semester. That said, the revolving door is a problem. But it is becoming more widespread and we re not the only one w this problem. Hense, the long list of transfers.[/quote]"

If you are going to count players recruited who never registered then you may as well count every recruit offered by Mullin which would make the number astronomical.;)
Only ADR would count based on registered players. I don't recall Thompson. Refresh my memory.[/quote] Quality big w shaky coach who got in trouble , transcript exchanged in parking lot. Don’t know if he enrolled any where. Don’t know if name is correct. Scandal involved w his school.
 
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[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279709][quote="SJU85" post=279708][quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote]


Off the top of my head, under Lavin we lost Polee, Lyndsay, Harkless (since people are going to include Ponds on this list if he leaves early to go pro, we have to include Harkless let alone we also lost Mussini and Freudenberg who went back home to go pro) and Garrett. I am not a betting man, but if someone actually looks it up, it might turn out to be more than five 72. However your point is taken.[/quote] I don’t remember everybody but count Pelle,ADR,Thomas,Thompson , the parking lot transcript guy,,Gathers etc. We lost Lindsey and Stith after 1 semester. That said, the revolving door is a problem. But it is becoming more widespread and we re not the only one w this problem. Hense, the long list of transfers.[/quote]

I wouldn't count Harkless, as he was a first round NBA draft pick. So, why count someone who was drafted by an NBA squad? That doesn't make any sense. Just like I wouldn't count Ponds, if he was drafted by an NBA team. As, of now, I doubt he'll be drafted by any NBA team in this year's draft.

If he bails to play ball overseas, then I may count him. Otherwise, I wouldn't count him if he's drafted by an NBA team.
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279720][quote="Class of 72" post=279718][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279709][quote="SJU85" post=279708][quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote] Hes the big that we really could have used. If I am remembering the name right. HS transcript exchanged in parking lot and Coach did illegal things. Don’t know if he ever enrolled anywhere.

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote]


Off the top of my head, under Lavin we lost Polee, Lyndsay, Harkless (since people are going to include Ponds on this list if he leaves early to go pro, we have to include Harkless let alone we also lost Mussini and Freudenberg who went back home to go pro) and Garrett. I am not a betting man, but if someone actually looks it up, it might turn out to be more than five 72. However your point is taken.[/quote]


" I don’t remember everybody but count Pelle,ADR,Thomas,Thompson , the parking lot transcript guy,,Gathers etc. We lost Lindsey and Stith after 1 semester. That said, the revolving door is a problem. But it is becoming more widespread and we re not the only one w this problem. Hense, the long list of transfers.[/quote]"

If you are going to count players recruited who never registered then you may as well count every recruit offered by Mullin which would make the number astronomical.;)
Only ADR would count based on registered players. I don't recall Thompson. Refresh my memory.[/quote] Quality big w shaky coach who got in trouble , transcript exchanged in parking lot. Don’t know if he enrolled any where. Don’t know if name is correct. Scandal involved w his school.[/quote]

That was Keith Thomas. Should I make up a few more names for you?:p
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=279718][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279709][quote="SJU85" post=279708][quote="Class of 72" post=279697][quote="MJDinkins" post=279692][quote="SJU14" post=279688][quote="MJDinkins" post=279670][quote="Adam" post=279668][quote="MJDinkins" post=279660][quote="Adam" post=279655]Generally teams have 2-3 transfers a year I think, so hopefully this is it.[/quote]

Really? Where did you calculate those numbers?[/quote]

There's 700-800+ transfers per year and 351 D1 programs, so average would be right in that range.[/quote]

I thought that amount happened a season ago. That wasn't actually the norm, if I'm not mistaken.

I can't count 2-3 per year transferring from any conference teams. It may have happened in a given year, but it isn't the norm.[/quote]

750+ has been the norm for 3-4 years now, unfortunately. Check the link I posted on the previous page of this thread.[/quote]

Okay.... I wasn't sure it had been that long, so I stand corrected. To say each team is losing 2-3 kids a year to the transfer game sounds off, though. I can't recall any team in the Big East who has recently lost 2-3 kids to transfer a year.[/quote]

2-3 seems the norm for schools in the bottom 266 of D1 schools and I'm sure D2 schools have a high number. The top 50 schools rarely lose more than 2 players.
Players leave for many reasons and transfer to schools they feel will give them a better opportunity. In our case, we seem to run the gamut of reasons. Transfers, early signing with European teams, grad transfers and a decommit. We have the worst turnover rate of any school in the Big East over the past two seasons.
Last season we lost 5 players that could have continued to be on the team and this season we will have lost (including Wilson) 4 to date. God forbid we lose Trimble or Ponds that would be another five.
No matter how we spin the reasons that's NINE players in two seasons. That is an obscene number and points to a serious problem with the staff's relationship with its players and vice versa.
I don't think we lost more than 5 players over Lavin's entire 5 years as coach. I'm sure someone will research the actual numbers and show Lavin lost 6 players per year.[/quote]


Off the top of my head, under Lavin we lost Polee, Lyndsay, Harkless (since people are going to include Ponds on this list if he leaves early to go pro, we have to include Harkless let alone we also lost Mussini and Freudenberg who went back home to go pro) and Garrett. I am not a betting man, but if someone actually looks it up, it might turn out to be more than five 72. However your point is taken.[/quote]


" I don’t remember everybody but count Pelle,ADR,Thomas,Thompson , the parking lot transcript guy,,Gathers etc. We lost Lindsey and Stith after 1 semester. That said, the revolving door is a problem. But it is becoming more widespread and we re not the only one w this problem. Hense, the long list of transfers.[/quote]"

If you are going to count players recruited who never registered then you may as well count every recruit offered by Mullin which would make the number astronomical.;)
Only ADR would count based on registered players. I don't recall Thompson. Refresh my memory.[/quote]

I don't count Pelle or Thomas either, as transfers since they never enrolled or was a part of the team. Maybe, that can be counted as being risky moves, but not as transfers.

Gathers never signed an LOI or enrolled. He reneged after a verbal commitment. Lindsey left after one semester, not Stith. You can only count Lindsey, Stith, and Polee as a transfers. I thought De La Rosa transferred after Lavin was gone.
 
I’m not counting them as transfers. What I’m saying is Lavin was involved w a Plethora of risky recruits. Many didn’t pan out just as the season was about to unfold ,when you can’t do anything about it. ADR enrolled w Lavin, may have even played an exhibition game, then was ruled ineligible. . Jordan , high risk, stopped going to classes. An ineligible player is worse than a transfer. At least w a transfer you have time to recoup. Garret,Sanchez and Sampson didn’t qualify initially. But , as they say, that is water under the bridge.
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=279726]I’m not counting them as transfers. What I’m saying is Lavin was involved w a Plethora of risky recruits. Many didn’t pan out just as the season was about to unfold ,when you can’t do anything about it. ADR enrolled w Lavin, may have even played an exhibition game, then was ruled ineligible. . Jordan , high risk, stopped going to classes. An ineligible player is worse than a transfer. At least w a transfer you have time to recoup. Garret,Sanchez and Sampson didn’t qualify initially. But , as they say, that is water under the bridge.[/quote]

They would have all qualified at Kentucky or Kansas. Are you surprised on how many of the top 50 recruits qualify for the most academically challenging schools? Michigan, Cal, UCLA, UNC, Duke to name a few.
 
So you put Yakwe ‘s lack of development on the Staff ? You must be kidding ! A nice kid apparently but, he was clearly overrated coming out of HS . Had extremely poor hands that could not catch a Basketball and except for the occasional blocked shot , was a poor rebounder, defender and could not develop even the most elementary of shooting techniques . That , plus , a inability to grasp basketball fundamentals , fouling the Gtown shooter on a failed 3 point attempt , cost us that game . I put your assessment of the Coaching staffs as a reason for Yakwe transferring in the deep six of nonsense comments . He was never a player of BE ability .
 
Knight , you must be watching a different Yakwe than I saw for 3 Years . He was a overrated player out of High School . Poor hands, could not rebound , or play defense . Shooting ? Awful . He could jump high and once in a while blocked a shot but, all up not a BE Player . Throw in a lack of instinctive B.B. skills , like don’t foul a 3 point shooter with the game on the line vs Gtown . It’s ludicrous to think he had the game to develop . He was given every chance and couldn’t . Throwing the Coach and staff under the Bus for Yakwe’s lack of ability is clearly a Anti Team comment and part of the BS put out by a few naysayers who try and hijack this Board . Your comment aligns you with them .
 
It is not only lousy teams that lose players from every class. SHU's excellent class that just graduated lost four players not including the two who went pro. We lose players, but so do the better teams.

Just check that link that has been posted here. It gives you defections by class for every team in the country.

I realize it doesn't fit the negative SJU narrative on the board. 21 kids announced their freedom in the past 24 hours along with Yakwe. Good luck to him and all of them.

This is not a trend. It's not even new. Recruting is not what it was five years ago. Lou loved transfers. He would be having a field day in 2018.
 
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