Xavier, Wed. Jan. 6, 9pm, FS1 & 570 AM

[SJU61982]

Agree that was a technical on Mussini but they issued a warning to Xavier in the first half after some Xavier guy dunked well after the whistle was blown. Have to T that guy up also. Sima got a T a couple of games because some red thought he was hanging on the rim.

That was Reynolds and it was a frustration move same as Muss's but not as blatant.

I'm not even sure it was that. I think that Reynolds did not hear the whistle, and just played on. He looked shocked when his dunk didn't count.

 

[westchesterjoe]

Chris Barca – ‏@CBarcaQC

Chris Mack on #SJUBB: "He has transfer students, freshman. That’s difficult, but he could have won the game."
8:56 PM - 6 Jan 2016 from Queens, NY

That's a classy comment by Coach Mack.. No doubt Mullin has respect from his peers. He's earned it. As for Mussini, he's a freshman, they make mistakes. Part of the learning process. he will be a integral part of the rebuilding effort the next few years. As will Sima, and Yankuba(SIC).

We could use a big burly guy in the middle at some point..Somebody, 7' and with skills. Might have to go outside the Met area to get one. Guys like Ellenson, Fischer, Grasseil from Creighton, Midwest seems to have quite a supply. Sima needs 30 pounds next year of muscle and he will be great.

 

[tom in salem]

i miss the game, but indications here are that we are getting better overall as a team. Development of our young guys is the most important thing we can achieve and it seems that it is happening. Our guys are competitive against tough teams lately and we are quite a bit undermanned and young. Can't wait to see what Mullin and Co. can do with a bunch more talent like Lovett, Ponds, Owens. Ahmed, Freudenberg and others added to this core. We will be competitive from the start next season. This season, I just enjoy being the spoiler and seeing the team improve slowly but surely.

Agree, next year is he beginning of the climb.
We will never be bad again, ever.
Very excited for the future.

Agree.. Next year we will have depth at all spots, our freshmen will all be sophisticated and we have significant talent coming in. Going to start opening eyes again. Very excited. Hey Tom, where u live? Salem Mass? I moved up to Portsmouth NH 2 months ago.

Good for you.
You'll love it.
Glad you didn't go to North Carolina.
We'll have to hook up for a game next season.

Yeah me too Tom. In he end, I couldn't just go down to NC because it was cheap and warm. Portsmouth is beautiful, historic, right by the ocean. Night and day difference from NC but I love it.

In the end culture trumps cost.
You get what you pay for.
Very impressed you got there , as Portsmouth and Portland Me, are wicked hot spots right now.
At least we have the makings of the first redmen.com New England chapter.

 

[logen]

I am not a fan of Johnson, Fun's stats aside. [...] I am not remotely a fan of Johnson's game.

I am not particularly a fan of Johnson's either: he's Phil Greene the fifth. Except if Phil Greene - the Phil Greene who was a 28 percent 3 point shooter for his career going into the SU game last December - led the team in assists and rebounds while shooting his usual 4 for 13 you people would have thrown him a parade. Whereas Johnson is the perpetual goat.

Not "you people" , never a fan of Phil Greene either.

 

[logen]

Johnson is a one year stop gap. You guys getting too worked up about someone who won't be here. He shows flashes and if SJU was going to be competitive he was going to have to play like he does in flashes more frequently.
There are no other options. Mullin is hoping some of it is rust and there will be a game or two that Johnson basically wins for us by scoring a lot.
Do you think we would be better off with Ellison taking more shots? Balamou? Anyone?
Look it annoys me to at times but it is what it is.
I predict he wins a game for us at some point

Who doesn't recognize that? I don't think anyone has called for his benching; he has just not given us much and certainly nothing in terms of senior leadership.

 

[we are sju]

Johnson is a one year stop gap. You guys getting too worked up about someone who won't be here. He shows flashes and if SJU was going to be competitive he was going to have to play like he does in flashes more frequently.
There are no other options. Mullin is hoping some of it is rust and there will be a game or two that Johnson basically wins for us by scoring a lot.
Do you think we would be better off with Ellison taking more shots? Balamou? Anyone?
Look it annoys me to at times but it is what it is.
I predict he wins a game for us at some point

Who doesn't recognize that? I don't think anyone has called for his benching; he has just not given us much and certainly nothing in terms of senior leadership.

Judging by game thread(s) most people. And as I indicated his gunning even bothers me, but again who else do you want shooting?
How are you quantifying "senior leadership"? Who the hell knows? I am sure in this day and age someone will eventually invent a stat for senior leadership but until that day it is pretty hard to judge.

 

[MCNPA]

i miss the game, but indications here are that we are getting better overall as a team. Development of our young guys is the most important thing we can achieve and it seems that it is happening. Our guys are competitive against tough teams lately and we are quite a bit undermanned and young. Can't wait to see what Mullin and Co. can do with a bunch more talent like Lovett, Ponds, Owens. Ahmed, Freudenberg and others added to this core. We will be competitive from the start next season. This season, I just enjoy being the spoiler and seeing the team improve slowly but surely.

Agree, next year is he beginning of the climb.
We will never be bad again, ever.
Very excited for the future.

Agree.. Next year we will have depth at all spots, our freshmen will all be sophisticated and we have significant talent coming in. Going to start opening eyes again. Very excited. Hey Tom, where u live? Salem Mass? I moved up to Portsmouth NH 2 months ago.

Good for you.
You'll love it.
Glad you didn't go to North Carolina.
We'll have to hook up for a game next season.

Yeah me too Tom. In he end, I couldn't just go down to NC because it was cheap and warm. Portsmouth is beautiful, historic, right by the ocean. Night and day difference from NC but I love it.

In the end culture trumps cost.
You get what you pay for.
Very impressed you got there , as Portsmouth and Portland Me, are wicked hot spots right now.
At least we have the makings of the first redmen.com New England chapter.

Yeah I never thought I'd be choosing between two polar opposite type places like that. In the end, Portsmouth was a much richer environment in every way for me and the family. It was an easy decision in the end. I'm still settling in and transitioning up here. Still working on job etc, but in my field that's not very difficult. Beautiful area this NH Seacoast. And definitely a New England chapter is warranted!

 

[beast of the east]

If senior leadership meant anything this website would have cornered the market on it.

 

[Knight]

Sometimes I see some selfish play by our seniors & CJ where it looks like their mindset is "I'm gonna get me mine". Too often they'll overlook an open Mussini or Amar. I think they see this season as their last chance at putting up numbers. Other times they seem to play with more of a TEAM concept in mind. I hope that they can see that TEAM must come first.

 

[austour]

The best thing about Mullin getting warned for being out of the coaches box is I won't have to worry about seeing him sit on the scorers table in the 2nd half

Well you won half your bet. LOL

if he's gonna win me money on the under's he can sit on that table all he wants

I believe you mean covers not unders.

same thing to me. I always call it unders when I take the points. Kind of like me calling you Austor for 10 years

So you never bet the over/under?

 

[Section9]

Agree that was a technical on Mussini but they issued a warning to Xavier in the first half after some Xavier guy dunked well after the whistle was blown. Have to T that guy up also. Sima got a T a couple of games because some red thought he was hanging on the rim.

That was Reynolds and it was a frustration move same as Muss's but not as blatant.

I'm not even sure it was that. I think that Reynolds did not hear the whistle, and just played on. He looked shocked when his dunk didn't count.

Nah, I heard that whistle from where we were sitting and I'm losing my hearing,

 

[austour]

I am not a fan of Johnson, Fun's stats aside. [...] I am not remotely a fan of Johnson's game.

I am not particularly a fan of Johnson's either: he's Phil Greene the fifth. Except if Phil Greene - the Phil Greene who was a 28 percent 3 point shooter for his career going into the SU game last December - led the team in assists and rebounds while shooting his usual 4 for 13 you people would have thrown him a parade. Whereas Johnson is the perpetual goat.

Phil Greene actually did lead the team in assists as a frosh and shoot 40% from 3 as a Jr. but I get what you're saying.

 

[austour]

i miss the game, but indications here are that we are getting better overall as a team. Development of our young guys is the most important thing we can achieve and it seems that it is happening. Our guys are competitive against tough teams lately and we are quite a bit undermanned and young. Can't wait to see what Mullin and Co. can do with a bunch more talent like Lovett, Ponds, Owens. Ahmed, Freudenberg and others added to this core. We will be competitive from the start next season. This season, I just enjoy being the spoiler and seeing the team improve slowly but surely.

Agree, next year is he beginning of the climb.
We will never be bad again, ever.
Very excited for the future.

Agree.. Next year we will have depth at all spots, our freshmen will all be sophisticated and we have significant talent coming in. Going to start opening eyes again. Very excited. Hey Tom, where u live? Salem Mass? I moved up to Portsmouth NH 2 months ago.

Good for you.
You'll love it.
Glad you didn't go to North Carolina.
We'll have to hook up for a game next season.

Yeah me too Tom. In he end, I couldn't just go down to NC because it was cheap and warm. Portsmouth is beautiful, historic, right by the ocean. Night and day difference from NC but I love it.

In the end culture trumps cost.
You get what you pay for.
Very impressed you got there , as Portsmouth and Portland Me, are wicked hot spots right now.
At least we have the makings of the first redmen.com New England chapter.

Yeah I never thought I'd be choosing between two polar opposite type places like that. In the end, Portsmouth was a much richer environment in every way for me and the family. It was an easy decision in the end. I'm still settling in and transitioning up here. Still working on job etc, but in my field that's not very difficult. Beautiful area this NH Seacoast. And definitely a New England chapter is warranted!

Next time I visit my brother in law in Scarborough we should get together for an Allagash Brewery tour!

 

[JackofVirginia]

Agree that was a technical on Mussini but they issued a warning to Xavier in the first half after some Xavier guy dunked well after the whistle was blown. Have to T that guy up also. Sima got a T a couple of games because some red thought he was hanging on the rim.

Mussini"s slam of the ball (he got some height on it too) was in anger at a call and is showing up a ref so we both agree it was a technical. The Xavier player's move was dumb and he could have gotten a tech but it wasn't showing up the ref on hanging on the rim which you can get close to calling a lot of players on, but Sima's tech in the Creighton game was well deserved as he hung and swung.

Chris could have also gotten a technical instead of a warning for being out on the court in the first half instead of the warning he got from the official.

Do not agree. Mussini wasn't even involved in the call. He just showed his frustration over a foul called against one of his teammates, refs should have seen that. Raftery did.

 

[logen]

Johnson is a one year stop gap. You guys getting too worked up about someone who won't be here. He shows flashes and if SJU was going to be competitive he was going to have to play like he does in flashes more frequently.
There are no other options. Mullin is hoping some of it is rust and there will be a game or two that Johnson basically wins for us by scoring a lot.
Do you think we would be better off with Ellison taking more shots? Balamou? Anyone?
Look it annoys me to at times but it is what it is.
I predict he wins a game for us at some point

Who doesn't recognize that? I don't think anyone has called for his benching; he has just not given us much and certainly nothing in terms of senior leadership.

Judging by game thread(s) most people. And as I indicated his gunning even bothers me, but again who else do you want shooting?
How are you quantifying "senior leadership"? Who the hell knows? I am sure in this day and age someone will eventually invent a stat for senior leadership but until that day it is pretty hard to judge.

Leadership is one of those things that is tough to define but you know it when you see it, and when you don't. As for who takes shots, I prefer that players take good shots in the flow of the game; jacking crap because you feel you are entitled because you are the best player or the oldest player is just that, crap. To sum it up, lack of senior leadership is hoisting crap after a tough comeback because you feel you are entitled and ignoring the open hot hand that got you back in the game.

 

[logen]

Agree that was a technical on Mussini but they issued a warning to Xavier in the first half after some Xavier guy dunked well after the whistle was blown. Have to T that guy up also. Sima got a T a couple of games because some red thought he was hanging on the rim.

Mussini"s slam of the ball (he got some height on it too) was in anger at a call and is showing up a ref so we both agree it was a technical. The Xavier player's move was dumb and he could have gotten a tech but it wasn't showing up the ref on hanging on the rim which you can get close to calling a lot of players on, but Sima's tech in the Creighton game was well deserved as he hung and swung.

Chris could have also gotten a technical instead of a warning for being out on the court in the first half instead of the warning he got from the official.

Do not agree. Mussini wasn't even involved in the call. He just showed his frustration over a foul called against one of his teammates, refs should have seen that. Raftery did.

No, the call had nothing to do with it, Mussini was frustrated at himself for not boxing out and giving up the rebound. Regardless of what Raftery said, it was an easy T to call.

 

[we are sju]

Johnson is a one year stop gap. You guys getting too worked up about someone who won't be here. He shows flashes and if SJU was going to be competitive he was going to have to play like he does in flashes more frequently.
There are no other options. Mullin is hoping some of it is rust and there will be a game or two that Johnson basically wins for us by scoring a lot.
Do you think we would be better off with Ellison taking more shots? Balamou? Anyone?
Look it annoys me to at times but it is what it is.
I predict he wins a game for us at some point

Who doesn't recognize that? I don't think anyone has called for his benching; he has just not given us much and certainly nothing in terms of senior leadership.

Judging by game thread(s) most people. And as I indicated his gunning even bothers me, but again who else do you want shooting?
How are you quantifying "senior leadership"? Who the hell knows? I am sure in this day and age someone will eventually invent a stat for senior leadership but until that day it is pretty hard to judge.

Leadership is one of those things that is tough to define but you know it when you see it, and when you don't. As for who takes shots, I prefer that players take good shots in the flow of the game; jacking crap because you feel you are entitled because you are the best player or the oldest player is just that, crap. To sum it up, lack of senior leadership is hoisting crap after a tough comeback because you feel you are entitled and ignoring the open hot hand that got you back in the game.

Mullin seems to be ok with his shooting.
You know the point I was making. Complaining about him being a gunner is understandable.
Whether he is a good leader or not is something that really can't be determined by on court things other than maybe hustle. He does hustle.

 

[mjmaherjr]

The best thing about Mullin getting warned for being out of the coaches box is I won't have to worry about seeing him sit on the scorers table in the 2nd half

Well you won half your bet. LOL

if he's gonna win me money on the under's he can sit on that table all he wants

I believe you mean covers not unders.

same thing to me. I always call it unders when I take the points. Kind of like me calling you Austor for 10 years

So you never bet the over/under?

I took the points betting sju would lose by less

 

[OLV72]

Agree that was a technical on Mussini but they issued a warning to Xavier in the first half after some Xavier guy dunked well after the whistle was blown. Have to T that guy up also. Sima got a T a couple of games because some red thought he was hanging on the rim.

Mussini"s slam of the ball (he got some height on it too) was in anger at a call and is showing up a ref so we both agree it was a technical. The Xavier player's move was dumb and he could have gotten a tech but it wasn't showing up the ref on hanging on the rim which you can get close to calling a lot of players on, but Sima's tech in the Creighton game was well deserved as he hung and swung.

Chris could have also gotten a technical instead of a warning for being out on the court in the first half instead of the warning he got from the official.

Do not agree. Mussini wasn't even involved in the call. He just showed his frustration over a foul called against one of his teammates, refs should have seen that. Raftery did.

No, the call had nothing to do with it, Mussini was frustrated at himself for not boxing out and giving up the rebound. Regardless of what Raftery said, it was an easy T to call.

This is interesting. Did you pick this up from one of his post game comments? It sure looked like he was pissed over the whistle

 

[simplyred]

Btw, Johnson played his best defense of the year last night, along with hustle for loose balls that we've seen in several games.

Overall, the team showed me a lot. What killed us were turnovers. We had a chance, right before halftime, to cut the lead to 3 (if my memory is correct) and, out of a time out, we turn it over and they score. At the end of the game, we turned it over several times, allowing them to pull away. Having another ball handler to take the burden off Mussini would make this team so much better.

We have been more competitive than expected against quality BE teams---which makes me wonder why we tanked it against Incarnate Word and NJIT.