WNBA

mjmaherjr said:
they are so stupid just change the theme from pay you what you owe us to pay us what we deserve. Bunch of economics class failures
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Apparently the WNBA brain trust also failed marketing. Here’s an example:

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While I understand what they are trying to convey from a sports standpoint, the tag line is bewildering/regressive (and also kinda hilarious).

If Angel Reese has a dominant year rebounding, are the powers that be going to OK a billboard of her doing her thing on the court with the tag line “She will clean them”? I don’t know what they’re thinking, or if they are at all.
 
Spocky Ramone said:
Apparently the WNBA brain trust also failed marketing. Here’s an example:

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While I understand what they are trying to convey from a sports standpoint, the tag line is bewildering/regressive (and also kinda hilarious).

If Angel Reese has a dominant year rebounding, are the powers that be going to OK a billboard of her doing her thing on the court with the tag line “She will clean them”? I don’t know what they’re thinking, or if they are at all.
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Its both from Breaking Bad and title of song by female hip hop artist



 
I live right near Barclays, and zero exaggeration, see a lot more Liberty gear on game days than Nets stuff (usually it’s just away jerseys and random stuff). There are very much legitimate fans out there.
 
dk423 said:
I live right near Barclays, and zero exaggeration, see a lot more Liberty gear on game days than Nets stuff (usually it’s just away jerseys and random stuff). There are very much legitimate fans out there.
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There is no question that there are loyal WNBA fans. Whether or not it is enough to date to sustain the league without the NBA's support is questionable. The prior women's professional basketball league crashed as a money loser. It's still basically a league that operates in the nba offseason and around most of the country, in warmer weather outdoor spectator sports are more attractive to fans.

The argument that they should be paid a percentage of revenue as the nba does is faulty. The NBA turns a huge profit that they share with players, who by and large make such ridiculous salaries that tickets are largely sold to corporations and wealthy patrons. I would think that WNBA players deserve to be paid more. How much more is the question. Perhaps a % of profits would be reasonable as a minimum, if profits exist. There could be guardrails to prevent creative accounting, such as depreciation of assets, etc etc that reduce profits to losses. Somewhere between gross and net profits.

All in all, women's basketball has come a long way. My daughters played in hs, and for 6 years or so were plugged into the AAU circuit, so there was a time when I had high interest watching or coaching over 100 games per year plus practices. The bottom line is the quality of play overall is not close to men's basketball. Women are not as athletic - men are bigger, stronger, faster and more agile by and large but there are some exceptions. The league is still a second rate league and would get crushed if they competed for attention while the NBA and NCAA seasons were underway.

The money the NBA invests in the WNBA is basically the salary of one NBA superstar, so it's chump change and part of a long term strategy to grow the WNBA into something substantial.

I don't know the terms of this TV deal and there may be thresholds in terms of ad revenue and viewership that need to be met, or guaranteed $$ far less than reported value or opt outs built in. Every contract is just an agreement between 2 parties so who knows.

Honestly, like many Americans, I'd only pause and watch a game if Clark is playing, and that's only if I'm flipping channels.

Bottom line: If/when teams are raking in profits, players should be paid more.
 
austour said:
And 25% more than watched the BET Final.
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what was their sports competition that night in July ? Baseball ? BET much more regionalized pretty sure the ACC Tourney was that night right after ours and I kinda think we might have played at 6:30 which it's great for going to the game but viewers I don't see how that's a great time I'd guess 8:30 is more advantageous. So the ACC championship had 3.1 million views at 8:30pm vs the same time slot WNBA All Star Game 2.19 million
 
While the specific list of NBA teams that lost money during the 2024-25 season is not publicly available, it's known that a significant number of teams experienced financial losses that year. Reports indicated that nearly half of the league, possibly 10 to 14 teams, faced negative net income, even after accounting for revenue sharing. This was largely due to factors like lower-than-projected revenue and increased expenses, including player salaries
 
Spocky Ramone said:
I’m fairly confident that they had to clear this with the WNBA in some capacity (Gatorade asleep at the switch as well).
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While controversial, it's brilliant marketing.

For younger generation, who they are targeting...they will get it. It was a collaborative effort w/ the female hip hop artist. For the older generation, who first think of an outdated gender stereotype, they won't get it, but likely dont care much about WNBA. Combined, it creates more publicity to bring it to wider potential audience.
 
Beasts of the East said:
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The WNBA is growing fast — but is it profitable? | Dr.Boyce D Watkins

The WNBA is growing fast — but is it profitable? Here’s the financial truth behind the headlines: • League revenue has grown from about $102 million in 2019 to nearly $200 million in 2024 • A new $2.2 billion media deal starts in 2026 — a game-changer for long-term financial stability •...
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Love to value increase in the Liberty ($14M in 2019 to $450M in 2025). Guess when Dolan sold to Joe Tsai; deal closed in early 2019. Bozo Dolan screwed up his "investment" in the Liberty and his ownership of the Knicks is obviously beyond his ability. He should sell the Knicks to Joe Tsai so we can get them on a track to winning a NBA championship.
 
BrooklynRed said:
Love to value increase in the Liberty ($14M in 2019 to $450M in 2025). Guess when Dolan sold to Joe Tsai; deal closed in early 2019. Bozo Dolan screwed up his "investment" in the Liberty and his ownership of the Knicks is obviously beyond his ability. He should sell the Knicks to Joe Tsai so we can get them on a track to winning a NBA championship.
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As much as I loath Dolan, man Joe Tsai is…. I’ll stop there to adhere to forum rules.
 
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