Where is the mystery candidate?

[quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]

Seeing that SJU wasn't on board with hiring Rice, I'm thinking Jackson's extramarital affair/extortion situation with a stripper doesn't help his case.
 
[quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]

Don't know for sure, but I hope it is because he doesn't fit the profile we are looking for. Mark is another big name with no college coaching experience. Also, not sure how hungry he would be on the recruiting circuit. Been there, done that.
 
[quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]
Zero relationship with the school
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=341200][quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]
Zero relationship with the school[/quote]

Am I mistaken or is this a common theme?
 
think about it there has been no continuity at SJU since Louie retired, from President to AD's to coaches, I get it!
 
[quote="Johnnie Drama" post=341203][quote="Paultzman" post=341200][quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]
Zero relationship with the school[/quote]

Am I mistaken or is this a common theme?[/quote]

Apparently Only 6% have a relationship
 
[quote="Johnnie Drama" post=341203][quote="Paultzman" post=341200][quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]
Zero relationship with the school[/quote]

Am I mistaken or is this a common theme?[/quote]
If you talk to former players, including some "big names," they'll tell you you're not mistaken. Sadly, it is a common theme.
 
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[quote="Johnnie Drama" post=341203][quote="Paultzman" post=341200][quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]
Zero relationship with the school[/quote]

Am I mistaken or is this a common theme?[/quote]

What would you expect with a new coach every four years and no administrators in the a.d. that last?
 
of all the choices out there I like Odom, not sure why he wouldn't be high on the list. After than probably Cluess. I'm not high on anyone from Duke, maybe a bit biased but I'm not sold on any of their track records. Dawkins is probably the most qualified out of the Dookies. Arizona State did not look like a well coached team to me. No idea about Sheyer but i think a minimum qualification for this job has to be prior head coaching experience and some measure of success doing it.
 
[quote="Mario" post=341254]
...... had the decision to release CM had been made sooner, we would have had a better option of coaches to possibly choose from after the NCAA games were played.
..... I'm feel we're settling now..... /[/quote]
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1. The cost of the buyout plus name coach would have likely exceeded $11M over the next 2 seasons (mullin’s $4.2M plus $5M new coach salary over the remaining 2 years of Mullin payments plus new coach’s buyout, call it $2M+/-).

2. Contrary to reports on Redmen.com no big money alum(s) stepped up to assist funding the position

3. StJohn’s is not prepared to pay $11M over the next 2 seasons.

4. Mike Cragg found himself in the position of playing the cards dealt him and will hire the best coach which StJohn’s is prepared to pay..

So yeah, you are correct, St.John’s is settling, but it is wrong to believe that it is Cragg’s fault.
 
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[quote="stuck in conn" post=341270]Greg Marshall go get him!![/quote]

Even if he were the choice of the donors, and the board was willing to sign off on it, he's holding out for way bigger fish than St. John's. I'm thinking Duke, UNC, or Kentucky are the only jobs that get his attention.
 
[quote="otis" post=341262]So yeah, you are correct, St.John’s is settling, but it is wrong to believe that it is Cragg’s fault.[/quote]

The money people only want to spring for their guys, and board doesn't want to sign off on one of them. So that leaves us with a guy that the board will sign on for but won't pay big bucks for. Hopefully they pay the assistants well. I don't think Borman comes here for a lowball offer. I would have hoped that Cragg would have reached out to Odom or Rhoads and convinced the donors that this was the smartest move. Don't think that happened. Wouldn't be shocked to see Cragg look for a new gig soon. Then we can go back to the no-AD model that was clearly so successful for us in past.
 
[quote="otis" post=341262][quote="Mario" post=341254]
...... had the decision to release CM had been made sooner, we would have had a better option of coaches to possibly choose from after the NCAA games were played.
..... I'm feel we're settling now..... /[/quote]
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1. The cost of the buyout plus name coach would have likely exceeded $11M over the next 2 seasons (mullin’s $4.2M plus $5M new coach salary over the remaining 2 years of Mullin payments plus new coach’s buyout, call it $2M+/-).

2. Contrary to reports on Redmen.com no big money alum(s) stepped up to assist funding the position

3. StJohn’s is not prepared to pay $11M over the next 2 seasons.

4. Mike Cragg found himself in the position of playing the cards dealt him and will hire the best coach which StJohn’s is prepared to pay..

So yeah, you are correct, St.John’s is settling, but it is wrong to believe that it is Cragg’s fault.[/quote]

Don't know if you were asking the question, but I don't blame him for the position he's in.

Hypothetically speaking, and I'll preface this by saying I don't know all the names on the list, however, there could have been someone list that is an up and coming coach we could have gotten on the "cheap"? No need to respond, I know it all behind us now, just more frustration on my part.
 
[quote="redken" post=341221][quote="Johnnie Drama" post=341203][quote="Paultzman" post=341200][quote="William T. Cicio" post=341172]Anyone know why Mark Jackson's name hasan't popped up? He did a good job for the Warriors and handed Steve Kerr a team that was on the rise.[/quote]
Zero relationship with the school[/quote]

Am I mistaken or is this a common theme?[/quote]
If you talk to former players, including some "big names," they'll tell you you're not mistaken. Sadly, it is a common theme.[/quote]

That's sad and must be corrected.
Hopefully, Cragg leads that effort once we hire a new HC.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=341276]

The money people only want to spring for their guys, and board doesn't want to sign off on one of them....... I would have hoped that Cragg would have reached out to Odom or Rhoads and convinced the donors that this was the smartest move....... .[/quote]
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LJSA

Please identify who these “money people” and “donors” are.

I have been told by a source I deem reliable that no big money stepped up to pay the $11M required over the next 2 years to hire the big time coach most on this board desires.

If Cragg had faced this situation at Duke the “money people” and “donors” would not have been a problem but it is a real issue at StJohns.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=341276][quote="otis" post=341262]So yeah, you are correct, St.John’s is settling, but it is wrong to believe that it is Cragg’s fault.[/quote]

The money people only want to spring for their guys, and board doesn't want to sign off on one of them. So that leaves us with a guy that the board will sign on for but won't pay big bucks for. Hopefully they pay the assistants well. I don't think Borman comes here for a lowball offer. I would have hoped that Cragg would have reached out to Odom or Rhoads and convinced the donors that this was the smartest move. Don't think that happened. Wouldn't be shocked to see Cragg look for a new gig soon. Then we can go back to the no-AD model that was clearly so successful for us in past.[/quote]

You may 'know' something, but why would Cragg leave St. John's 1-2 years into his new AD spot at a high-major school?
I can see him leaving, once successful here, for greener pastures, but not until then.
But I know nothing.
 
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Was told St. John's board of trustees met this afternoon. Could be some clarity on the opening today ... #sjubb
 
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Was told St. John's board of trustees met this afternoon. Could be some clarity on the opening today ... #sjubb[/quote]

Could be to finalize a package for a big name or to discuss Pitino findings from the NCAA. Just a guess but...the mystery candidate is probably someone settled in their job who has some sort of a connection to Cragg he is going to leverage.

Personally I like the way this search has gone so far. Mullin resigning caught him off guard but Cragg is taking his time and talking to a lot of names. Clearly putting a $ amount on each name so we’re not overpaying but maximizing our investment. It’s nerve racking but should be worth it in the end.

I think this search is over by next Friday. Heard through the grapevine there will be more interviews next week. I don’t think we hire TC. It would have happened already if we were interested.
 
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