Visited Providence This Weekend

And what's even weirder is this literally just popped up in my Facebook news feed

http://www.gate1travel.com/southeast-asia/bangkok-vacation-grpn8dbkkva14.aspx
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Thailand strikes me as way too safe a choice for you. I would piggyback Cambodia on it if I were you.

But back on topic before we all get deleted, I'd probably pick Nova over Providence given the choice. Are you applying there? Forgive me if that was covered already.
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Ok back on topic.

A friend of mine from work's son is deciding his college tonight. He is down to Nova and Maryland. 20k difference in school. He wants to major in international business or something like that. I told my friend to tell Nova officials he knows Otis but that didn't work.

Nova is something like 59k per year. Insane. And he is just finishing putting his oldest through quinnipiac and that's like 55k a year. And he has 1 more kid on deck.

That's freaking unreal
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Hello Mike,

If he got into Villanova he must be a very good student. Very tough school to be admitted.

My nephew (1450 SAT and #8 in his class) got in there but decided to go to Georgia Tech to study computer science engineering.

Would think the $59K is the list price. Would think with the discount rate it is lower, although still a hefty figure.

In NJ, would think most kids would be well served attending Rutgers (about $15K tuition for state residents) than going to a private school.

Suprised Joe3 hasn't tossed Marist into the discussion. Very similar to PC.
 
And what's even weirder is this literally just popped up in my Facebook news feed

http://www.gate1travel.com/southeast-asia/bangkok-vacation-grpn8dbkkva14.aspx
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Thailand strikes me as way too safe a choice for you. I would piggyback Cambodia on it if I were you.

But back on topic before we all get deleted, I'd probably pick Nova over Providence given the choice. Are you applying there? Forgive me if that was covered already.
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Ok back on topic.

A friend of mine from work's son is deciding his college tonight. He is down to Nova and Maryland. 20k difference in school. He wants to major in international business or something like that. I told my friend to tell Nova officials he knows Otis but that didn't work.

Nova is something like 59k per year. Insane. And he is just finishing putting his oldest through quinnipiac and that's like 55k a year. And he has 1 more kid on deck.

That's freaking unreal
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Hello Mike,

If he got into Villanova he must be a very good student. Very tough school to be admitted.

My nephew (1450 SAT and #8 in his class) got in there but decided to go to Georgia Tech to study computer science engineering.

Would think the $59K is the list price. Would think with the discount rate it is lower, although still a hefty figure.

In NJ, would think most kids would be well served attending Rutgers (about $15K tuition for state residents) than going to a private school.

Suprised Joe3 hasn't tossed Marist into the discussion. Very similar to PC.
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Yeah he is a real good student.

His Final 3 were Nova,Maryland and Fordham. He got into Michigan and Penn State also but those were his final 3. He riuled out Fordham because too close to home and didnt like the area.

He had his heart set on Nova but my friend explained to him the cost etc ( and he already knows he wants to go to grad school ) and basically told him he has a brother behind him who needs to go to college also and my friend has a limit about what he can do.

Finally after all that he agreed to Maryland last night
 
If you were local, I would suggest Queens College. One of my girls went there, got a great education and got into Georgetown Law. Props to qcredman.
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Thanks simplyred. In September I start my 50th year teaching at Queens College (the last five posthumously but no one has noticed yet) and I can tell all of you that QC is an absolutely incredible bargain. Fathers - nota bene: tuition for full time undergraduate students (who are New York State residents) is now $6,030 per year. Many of our students - like simplyred's daughter - get accepted to the very best professional and graduate schools.
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what subject do you teach there ?
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Ancient and medieval history.
 
If you were local, I would suggest Queens College. One of my girls went there, got a great education and got into Georgetown Law. Props to qcredman.
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It's hard to tell a kid who did well to go to junior college for a couple of years with a number of kids who eked their way through high school...then transfer to an elite school.

That's what I recommend, however. You can take core courses and do extremely well...then go Ivy League where the doors will be open for you. After that, it'll be much easier to pick a great law school. You can make great money coming out of a top law school. Mediocre money, if you can find a job, awaits you if you go to an ordinary school.
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[ quote ] My daughter started college at Tallahasse community college, graduated from FSU and is now in graduate school at Columbia. Saved a lot of money undergraduate, but I am making up for it now .She will have an ivy league graduate degree, and the graduate degree always trumps undergrad.
 
And what's even weirder is this literally just popped up in my Facebook news feed

http://www.gate1travel.com/southeast-asia/bangkok-vacation-grpn8dbkkva14.aspx
Click to expand...

Thailand strikes me as way too safe a choice for you. I would piggyback Cambodia on it if I were you.

But back on topic before we all get deleted, I'd probably pick Nova over Providence given the choice. Are you applying there? Forgive me if that was covered already.
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Ok back on topic.

A friend of mine from work's son is deciding his college tonight. He is down to Nova and Maryland. 20k difference in school. He wants to major in international business or something like that. I told my friend to tell Nova officials he knows Otis but that didn't work.

Nova is something like 59k per year. Insane. And he is just finishing putting his oldest through quinnipiac and that's like 55k a year. And he has 1 more kid on deck.

That's freaking unreal
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Hello Mike,

If he got into Villanova he must be a very good student. Very tough school to be admitted.

My nephew (1450 SAT and #8 in his class) got in there but decided to go to Georgia Tech to study computer science engineering.

Would think the $59K is the list price. Would think with the discount rate it is lower, although still a hefty figure.

In NJ, would think most kids would be well served attending Rutgers (about $15K tuition for state residents) than going to a private school.

Suprised Joe3 hasn't tossed Marist into the discussion. Very similar to PC.
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Yeah he is a real good student.

His Final 3 were Nova,Maryland and Fordham. He got into Michigan and Penn State also but those were his final 3. He riuled out Fordham because too close to home and didnt like the area.

He had his heart set on Nova but my friend explained to him the cost etc ( and he already knows he wants to go to grad school ) and basically told him he has a brother behind him who needs to go to college also and my friend has a limit about what he can do.

Finally after all that he agreed to Maryland last night
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Tough to turn down Michigan.
 
And what's even weirder is this literally just popped up in my Facebook news feed

http://www.gate1travel.com/southeast-asia/bangkok-vacation-grpn8dbkkva14.aspx
Click to expand...

Thailand strikes me as way too safe a choice for you. I would piggyback Cambodia on it if I were you.

But back on topic before we all get deleted, I'd probably pick Nova over Providence given the choice. Are you applying there? Forgive me if that was covered already.
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Ok back on topic.

A friend of mine from work's son is deciding his college tonight. He is down to Nova and Maryland. 20k difference in school. He wants to major in international business or something like that. I told my friend to tell Nova officials he knows Otis but that didn't work.

Nova is something like 59k per year. Insane. And he is just finishing putting his oldest through quinnipiac and that's like 55k a year. And he has 1 more kid on deck.

That's freaking unreal
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Hello Mike,

If he got into Villanova he must be a very good student. Very tough school to be admitted.

My nephew (1450 SAT and #8 in his class) got in there but decided to go to Georgia Tech to study computer science engineering.

Would think the $59K is the list price. Would think with the discount rate it is lower, although still a hefty figure.

In NJ, would think most kids would be well served attending Rutgers (about $15K tuition for state residents) than going to a private school.

Suprised Joe3 hasn't tossed Marist into the discussion. Very similar to PC.
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Yeah he is a real good student.

His Final 3 were Nova,Maryland and Fordham. He got into Michigan and Penn State also but those were his final 3. He riuled out Fordham because too close to home and didnt like the area.

He had his heart set on Nova but my friend explained to him the cost etc ( and he already knows he wants to go to grad school ) and basically told him he has a brother behind him who needs to go to college also and my friend has a limit about what he can do.

Finally after all that he agreed to Maryland last night
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Tough to turn down Michigan.
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I was suprised it didnt make his top 3. I think the distance was too much for him
 
If you were local, I would suggest Queens College. One of my girls went there, got a great education and got into Georgetown Law. Props to qcredman.
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It's hard to tell a kid who did well to go to junior college for a couple of years with a number of kids who eked their way through high school...then transfer to an elite school.

That's what I recommend, however. You can take core courses and do extremely well...then go Ivy League where the doors will be open for you. After that, it'll be much easier to pick a great law school. You can make great money coming out of a top law school. Mediocre money, if you can find a job, awaits you if you go to an ordinary school.
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[ quote ] My daughter started college at Tallahasse community college, graduated from FSU and is now in graduate school at Columbia. Saved a lot of money undergraduate, but I am making up for it now .She will have an ivy league graduate degree, and the graduate degree always trumps undergrad.
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When I went to Columbia grad school in 1959 the tuition was $1300. What does it cost now?
 
FWIW.... As many of you know, enrollment at SJU is down 10% over the last 5 years, that said what would you do, from a recruiting perspective, to make it a more attractive destination for high school seniors.
 
FWIW.... As many of you know, enrollment at SJU is down 10% over the last 5 years, that said what would you do, from a recruiting perspective, to make it a more attractive destination for high school seniors.
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Kevin, this is a problem universities and colleges throughout the country are facing. The numbers of college eligible students has been dropping and continues to drop. SJU, and many others, will have a very difficult time meeting their admissions targets and the only way they can keep their income steady in the face of declining enrollment is reverting back to the old fashioned budget cuts, primarily people, I'm afraid.

Some details here: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-22/five-reasons-college-enrollments-might-be-dropping.html
 
FWIW.... As many of you know, enrollment at SJU is down 10% over the last 5 years, that said what would you do, from a recruiting perspective, to make it a more attractive destination for high school seniors.
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Make the NCAA Tourney!
This may sound tongue-in-cheek, but it's been shown that sports team performance affects school enrolment. From ESPN article:

"A 2009 study by brothers and economics professors Jaren and Devin Pope showed that just making it into the men’s NCAA tournament produces a 1 percent increase in applications the following year. Each round a team advances increases the percentage: 3 percent for Sweet 16 teams, 4 to 5 percent for Final Four teams and 7 to 8 percent for the winner.

The only way to achieve similar application increases would be to increase financial aid or reduce tuition by 2 to 24 percent, the study said.

"These numbers tend to be larger for private schools than for public schools," co-author Jaren Pope said. "For example, private schools in the Sweet 16 see a 4 percent to 5 percent increase in applications compared to a 2 percent to 3 percent increase for public schools."

Butler University experienced a whopping 41 percent increase in applications after its 2010 run to the title game. George Mason University saw a 54 percent increase in out-of-state applications following its 2006 Final Four appearance. And within a month of being defeated in the first round of the 2000 tournament, Central Connecticut State University saw application rates increase by more 12 percent."

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post?id=53175
 
Yikes, I guess I haven't priced Villanova in 25 years.

OK, Jack, my official recommendation outside of NYU is Suffolk Community College followed by transfer to Stony Brook.
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My oldest is finishing up at Suffolk this semester and will be transferring to Albany.
 
My oldest is finishing up at Suffolk this semester and will be transferring to Albany.
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SJU85......... Albany's College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering is among the top nano science schools in the country. Congratulations on your son's successes.
 
And what's even weirder is this literally just popped up in my Facebook news feed

http://www.gate1travel.com/southeast-asia/bangkok-vacation-grpn8dbkkva14.aspx
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Thailand strikes me as way too safe a choice for you. I would piggyback Cambodia on it if I were you.

But back on topic before we all get deleted, I'd probably pick Nova over Providence given the choice. Are you applying there? Forgive me if that was covered already.
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Ok back on topic.

A friend of mine from work's son is deciding his college tonight. He is down to Nova and Maryland. 20k difference in school. He wants to major in international business or something like that. I told my friend to tell Nova officials he knows Otis but that didn't work.

Nova is something like 59k per year. Insane. And he is just finishing putting his oldest through quinnipiac and that's like 55k a year. And he has 1 more kid on deck.

That's freaking unreal
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Hello Mike,

If he got into Villanova he must be a very good student. Very tough school to be admitted.

My nephew (1450 SAT and #8 in his class) got in there but decided to go to Georgia Tech to study computer science engineering.

Would think the $59K is the list price. Would think with the discount rate it is lower, although still a hefty figure.

In NJ, would think most kids would be well served attending Rutgers (about $15K tuition for state residents) than going to a private school.

Suprised Joe3 hasn't tossed Marist into the discussion. Very similar to PC.
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You couldn't pay me to live in Poughkeepsie, what a disgusting place.
 
If you were local, I would suggest Queens College. One of my girls went there, got a great education and got into Georgetown Law. Props to qcredman.
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I went to QC as well, and I couldn't recommend it enough. It's not good for a CUNY or a public college, it's very good period.
I can't speak for the sciences or professional studies, but in the humanities: the political science, history, economics, and sociology departments were truly elite. And the vast majority of classes are taught by full-time tenured professors, like QCredmen, who have impeccable credentials.

Any student considering staying home would be wise to give QC a close look. It's very impressive. My wife went to Dartmouth, and objectively, the two of us think I had the better academic experience.
 
Holy Cross, the Jesuit gem. The rector for the Massachusetts Jesuits told my daughter to go there over BC and Georgetown, and said: "quietly the Jesuits consider this their best college."

She graduated HC and won a full ride to law school.

HC puts more students into elite professional schools than almost any other undergrad college including the Ivies.

I have relatives and friends who have kids that have gone there and other of their kids who have gone Ivy, and to a person, they each say that the education and hard work at HC was superior to Harvard, Yale, etc. One actually told me, once you get into Harvard (quite an achievement---no doubt), you would have to TRY to fail out.

As Chris "Mad Dog" Russo (Hollins grad), would say ""True Story""!

Having said all that, I loved my time at SJU ('71-'78), met my lovely wife there (35 yrs. +) and would strongly recommend JW consider St. John's!

I agree that superior t.v. athletics helps recruiting, and in our case that means men's BB, GO ST. JOHN'S, hey look at Andrew Svoboda and Keegan Bradley this past weekend on the PGA Tour!!!!

Otherwise St. John's needs to promote its history, diversity, NYC campuses, ties to Manhattan and the financial and legal sectors, to help raise their admissions. Let's improve our academics and steal kids who might go to Fordham or Manhattan, and those types of schools.
 
My brother in law went to St. John’s and has 11 National Emmies and is the go-to video editor in NYC. Major contributor/President of the St. John’s TV Club which launched dozens (probably many more than dozens), of other careers, very well connected.

His wife also St. John’s grad was in the TV Club also and won two local Emmies for ABC Sports and worked alongside Warner Wolf, covered the 1980 Olympics and others and says St. John’s launched her career as well.

GO St. JOHN’S!
 
My brother in law went to St. John’s and has 11 National Emmies and is the go-to video editor in NYC. Major contributor/President of the St. John’s TV Club which launched dozens (probably many more than dozens), of other careers, very well connected.

His wife also St. John’s grad was in the TV Club also and won two local Emmies for ABC Sports and worked alongside Warner Wolf, covered the 1980 Olympics and others and says St. John’s launched her career as well.

GO St. JOHN’S!
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One-upped!
Seriously, though, congrats to your brother-in-law and to QueensFinest. I started at Cornell and finished at St. John's. The thing I liked about St. John's is the fact that you can do whatever you want once you are there. You are in the biggest city in the country and arguably the most important in the world...your opportunities are only limited by your ambition. I'd recommend it to anyone if the price is right.
 
My brother in law went to St. John’s and has 11 National Emmies and is the go-to video editor in NYC. Major contributor/President of the St. John’s TV Club which launched dozens (probably many more than dozens), of other careers, very well connected.

His wife also St. John’s grad was in the TV Club also and won two local Emmies for ABC Sports and worked alongside Warner Wolf, covered the 1980 Olympics and others and says St. John’s launched her career as well.

GO St. JOHN’S!
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Great careers and a great story. St. John's continues to make an enormous impact on the city and the state.
 
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