Went from watching Nova mess to recording of FSU game which I attended. Commented at FSU that the Seminoles looked so skinny that running in to Posh or Wusu or Joel or Stanley could lead to a health emergency. If Joel is our poor man's Patrick Ewing, who is his Oakley. Nova stops crowding the lane one of two ways, 3 pointers by us (we saw how well that worked) or a second big to plow through their packed in defense in the lane to free up Joel and interior passing. Can we at times play Joel and Stanley together and let Nyiwe be the backup center?
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Posh is obviously frustrated and in his own head. . .his last foul shot attempt reflects the “noise” that is in his head right now . . I don’t believe the SG role fits him for reasons beyond his shooting limitations. During his 1st 2 seasons, I always felt confident when Posh was on the floor because of his toughness and will to win. He is a natural leader and is accustomed to being in control, , , the SG role has thrust him into a situation for which he has ceded control and for which he is not best suited. . .Not a revelation here, but CMA needs to fix the Posh/Curbelo tandem ASAP including the possibility that roles need to reversed or that Curbelo needs to come off bench.
As a fan, l don’t have a problem with losing on the road and even by 15 points (although I think we have the personnel to beat them).what is most troublesome is how we lost and more importantly that it is a recurring theme. All teams have points during a game when shot selection goes south. . .the key is recognizing and taking immediate action
As a fan, l don’t have a problem with losing on the road and even by 15 points (although I think we have the personnel to beat them).what is most troublesome is how we lost and more importantly that it is a recurring theme. All teams have points during a game when shot selection goes south. . .the key is recognizing and taking immediate action
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More Storr!!!!
I respectfully disagree.
Basketball has changed during the past 2 decades. More kids can shoot the long ball better (see lessened effectiveness of Boeheim’s 2-3 zone).
In 1999 you had a greater chance of dominating games by out hustling a team playing unscripted offense without reliance on the 3 ball.
Today the 3 ball is the difference maker and CMA’s style, and the effectiveness of Boeheim’s 2-3 zone are lessened by the fact more kids can shoot the long ball better than they could 20 years ago.
Times change. CMA’s system seemingly has not.
CMA's style is never going to change. I am not a high Bball IQ person but he preaches defense all the time and I do not see it on the court. I think we have a great solid group of players that can make a lot of noise and make it to the tournament, but the composition of the orchestra is wrong and that is on the coaching.
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Not necessarily saying this is happening, but Posh perhaps being guarded by a bigger player is why we don't see him getting those hustle baskets? He's strong for a guy his size, especially going against the other team's PG, that advantage is gone against a bigger G.
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Again I get you want talent but how was two small guards that can’t shoot going to fit together?
I didn't read the whole thread, in fact I turned the game off when we went down 17. IDK if this has been mentioned, but the big thing that stuck out to me was how almost every time we got the ball in the paint they double or triple teamed us. I don't want to remember how many times they got the ball in the paint one-on-one feinting and dribbling the ball for a long time, I think once one of them even texted his girl friend, and we never double teamed them and they spun in for an easy lay-up. I know they spread the court. but at some point you have to stop the low post dribbling even if it results in an open look from outside. I'll take my chances with that rather than conceding an easy two.
I didn't watch much of the game. Was in the office. Turned it on up 11 with 6 mins to go in 1st and feel like I put the mush on them. Was working and commuting during the 2nd half. That said I am turning towards your dark side. What I did watch on the offensive end at the end of the 1st was offensive. That's where the problems begin and end, in the half court and on poorly executed semi breaks with forced shots. Need to present some semblance of lineup that can score and spreading out the wealth with the second unit will help, plus having two of Mathis, Pinzon and Storr on the floor most of the time will as well. You have two point guards who can find shooters but there needs to be shooters on the floor. If Posh and Belo are passing to each other the team is disabled. And if the shooters can each continue to shoot at their present rates it should open up the middle for Jones to do what he does best and attack the basket with less congestion in the lane. I will also correct you that if Posh/Belo each play 25 minutes they will be on the court together a minimum of 10 minutes, which is the most they should consider.
I am a box score dweeb and was very pleased to see that they only gave up 4 offensive rebounds on on 31 missed shots while getting 14 of their own. They got 16 more shots that Nova as well but the O rebound % was still pretty good. But only 6 FTs? Maybe refs are not prone to calling fouls on haphazard drives to the basket with no real purpose (saw quite a few of those in 6 minutes I watched) and the team should adjust they way the attack the basket accordingly.
While it's only game 2 of the conference slate, and their first touch conference road game, this can't continue for very much longer or the season is lost. Need a great effort v Xavier to protect home court and then show they can still beat the bottom half on the road v Seton Hall. That would be program resuscitating.
Because, IMO, Nyiwe would give us close to zero(I'm being kind) offensive contributions against a team like Nova. And on a night when we lost our offense early, and the staff was look to find a spark somewhere, Nyiwe was not the place to look.
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Well that’s a pot calling the kettle black post if I’ve ever heard one!
Since you’re not a guy who appreciates nuance, I’ll spell it out for you. Storr has clearly shown an ability to knock down the open three with some consistency and that’s far more than most of our offensively challenged team has done.
He had a nice run during the first half although he was mostly ineffective during the second half.
My opinion based on what I’ve seen — and you are free to disagree — is that in addition to his defensive deficiencies, Storr cannot create his own shot for the most part and does not have a particularly quick release on his shot. He should continue to play in spurts and I have no objection to him getting a bit more playing time, but expecting him to be some kind of savior strikes me as folly.
How anyone can absolve CMA and the staff of blame is beyond me. They pick players, they coach the players. So either they picked the wrong combination of players, they don't know how to coach the players they picked in to a cohesive unit,
or both.
Boo Harvey
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I agree that I saw more offensive aggressiveness this game from Storr in terms of creating and looking for his shot than I ever had before. Perhaps he will continue to develop. I worry about throwing a freshman out to the wolves who in my estimation doesn’t look ready for a big workload. Doing so might have the opposite effect on his confidence. Would love to see him continue to get 15-20 minutes a game and see some of our other players step up.
I don't think we have a savior in waiting, but a change is definitely needed since rotation ain't clicking and I don't think many of us expect it to start clicking as the season progresses.I think giving Storr 25 MPG and reducing Curbelo's minutes, and the time he spends on the floor with Posh, is worth a shot.
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Agree with all that but obviously easier to “pick” the players if you’re coach at an attractive school with a big budget. Anybody who is coach here is immediately at a disadvantage, but Cooly, Willard and others are proof that we can and should continue to aim higher.
PS the value of a player who can shoot extends beyond just that player's PPG. Champaignie's value was way more then his 20 PPG. Opposing teams needed to spread their D because of him, opening up the court for other players(Posh, etc) to get looks and drive. We have no one like that on this team
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Boo Harvey
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Fair post. I’d give it a few more games bc I think our only chance of making the dance is for Posh and Curbelo to click and I’m not ready to give up on the season yet (although I’m the first to admit it doesn’t look good).
Went to dinner last night and the Uconn women were playing on the tv near my table. They’re missing a number of their best players and yet they still shoot better than us. Last night, 52.4% from 3. And they play as a team. We get a lead by playing together and then everyone is out for themselves. The players change but the mo stays the same. Painful
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