Vaccine

Beast of the East post=448427 said:
Employees in general like working from home so much,  employers are offering jobs that will permanently be hybrid or fully work from home at employees discretion to attract top talent.  

My wife's former firm had a beautiful office in midtown east. 
They bought out the lease last year and went to a hybrid mix of work-from-home and small conference room rentals like WeWork for in-person meetings. 
After salary and benefits, the biggest expense for many companies is real estate. I imagine many are glad to be shedding that cost. 

 
 
My Goddaughter received her MBA from St. Johns in May. She was in a 5 year program where she received an Undergraduate Degree in Psychology in 4 years, and after the 5th year her MBA.

She took the summer off and began looking for work in September. She eventually landed a job in the Human Resource Dept at "Angie's List". She had 12 Zoom interviews before she was offered the position. All of her training and interaction with coworkers, has been through Zoom. They have an office in Chelsea, but she has never been there.

At this time, she is unsure of when she will be able to enter the workplace. If this trend continues, I can see companies downsizing their office space which may have a negative effect on Commercial real Estate.
 
MainMan post=448476 said:
Beast of the East post=448427 said:
Employees in general like working from home so much,  employers are offering jobs that will permanently be hybrid or fully work from home at employees discretion to attract top talent.  

My wife's former firm had a beautiful office in midtown east. 
They bought out the lease last year and went to a hybrid mix of work-from-home and small conference room rentals like WeWork for in-person meetings. 
After salary and benefits, the biggest expense for many companies is real estate. I imagine many are glad to be shedding that cost. 


 
It's nutty now that how health insurance can be a bigger expense than rent. Health insurance cost jumps just never stop. We downsized our office, and now health insurance is bigger than rent.
 
panther2 post=448479 said:
My Goddaughter received her MBA from St. Johns in May. She was in a 5 year program where she received an Undergraduate Degree in Psychology in 4 years, and after the 5th year her MBA.

She took the summer off and began looking for work in September. She eventually landed a job in the Human Resource Dept at "Angie's List". She had 12 Zoom interviews before she was offered the position. All of her training and interaction with coworkers, has been through Zoom. They have an office in Chelsea, but she has never been there.

At this time, she is unsure of when she will be able to enter the workplace. If this trend continues, I can see companies downsizing their office space which may have a negative effect on Commercial real Estate.

It's already happening - my firm cut our space in half. Our needs have totally changed.  Microsoft Teams and similar software have made working from home so much easier.  That software arrived just in time, along with good built in video cameras / microphones in laptops.  Additionally, having your files / software all cloud-based has also made it easier to transition to working from home. 

My firm, and many others - the transition to working from home was a piece of cake.  We just splurged for a little hardware here and there, and away we went. Actually, going forward, we aren't even going to purchase office-based workstation PCs anymore.  Employees will bring their light laptops to the office when they occasionally come in, and they will just plug into a docking station.

Heck, with Teams / Vonage, similar phone services - we don't even have traditional desk phones anymore. All of our "phone" calls all through our laptop or our mobile phones.

At our new offices, we don't have enough desks for all the employees. None of us want to go back in office in any material way - just for important meetings, and occasionally to get away from your family (some have this urge more than others - probably primarily based on how small your kids are, if any). 
 
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MainMan post=448476 said:
Beast of the East post=448427 said:
Employees in general like working from home so much,  employers are offering jobs that will permanently be hybrid or fully work from home at employees discretion to attract top talent.  

My wife's former firm had a beautiful office in midtown east. 
They bought out the lease last year and went to a hybrid mix of work-from-home and small conference room rentals like WeWork for in-person meetings. 
After salary and benefits, the biggest expense for many companies is real estate. I imagine many are glad to be shedding that cost. 


 
 
In Canada we have socialized medicine , meaning every Canadian citizen and permanent resident is issued a Medicare card and there is no fee to walk into a Drs office or a hospital. Given that medicine is controlled by the government on March 15, 2020 when it became clear Covid 19 was a pandemic the Quebec government ordered all workers other than essential workers to work from home in order to limit one’s contacts in an attempt to avoid overwhelming our health care system. 
After having been the first tenants in the best office building in downtown Montreal in 1999 we had just moved to nearby premises on December 1, 2019. We wondered how would our law firm function remotely. Well we did not miss a bit at all and with zoom and teams meeting life went on very well. 90% of the staff loves working remotely as they save 1.5-2 hours a day of travelling time and many related expenses of not having to physically be present in the office and only a very small percentage of lawyers still come to the office. A hybrid form of work is certainly here to stay in the legal profession. 
 
 
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redmannorth post=448497 said:
In Canada we have socialized medicine , meaning every Canadian citizen and permanent resident is issued a Medicare card and there is no fee to walk into a Drs office or a hospital. Given that medicine is controlled by the government on March 15, 2020 when it became clear Covid 19 was a pandemic the Quebec government ordered all workers other than essential workers to work from home in order to limit one’s contacts in an attempt to avoid overwhelming our health care system. 
After having been the first tenants in the best office building in downtown Montreal in 1999 we had just moved to nearby premises on December 1, 2019. We wondered how would our law firm function remotely. Well we did not miss a bit at all and with zoom and teams meeting life went on very well. 90% of the staff loves working remotely as they save 1.5-2 hours a day of travelling time and many related expenses of not having to physically be present in the office and only a very small percentage of lawyers still come to the office. A hybrid form of work is certainly here to stay in the legal profession. 

 
Is it true that the vaccines in Canada are cultured from goat or buffalo testicles? Just what we heard in the US?
 
Two years working from home and my company still refuses to pay a portion of employees' internet costs.
It's this type of nickel and diming that drives a lot of folks to leave. 
 
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These Florida retirees just had one of their two central AC's fail.  One company had only unvaxed repair staff, the other was vaccinated.  Easy decision.  I'd rather be hot than dead.
 
MainMan post=448516 said:
Two years working from home and my company still refuses to pay a portion of employees' internet costs.
It's this type of nickel and diming that drives a lot of folks to leave. 
I understand your dissatisfaction.   I think it's reasonable for a small company especially to pay a share of internet costs, but being that home internet pre-exists for virtually every at home worker that it would be viewed the same way an allowance for electricity, heating, a/c or even water would be viewed.    Most companies still are paying rent on their office space, utilities on a $ per sq foot basis, and internet charges, etc.    One way to look at it is that employees are also saving a ton of money on dry cleaning, commuting costs, and especially commuting time.    Now if they were saving on office expenses and not reimbursing you for additional expenses you are incurring, that's a fair argument.
 
a/c is not needed now. we have our windows open.
the nicest florida december in 17 years.
low 70's every day.
 
fuchsia post=448560 said:
These Florida retirees just had one of their two central AC's fail.  One company had only unvaxed repair staff, the other was vaccinated.  Easy decision.  I'd rather be hot than dead.

Depending on where one ends up in the afterlife, one could be hot and dead.
 
Beast of the East post=448561 said:
MainMan post=448516 said:
Two years working from home and my company still refuses to pay a portion of employees' internet costs.
It's this type of nickel and diming that drives a lot of folks to leave. 
I understand your dissatisfaction.   I think it's reasonable for a small company especially to pay a share of internet costs, but being that home internet pre-exists for virtually every at home worker that it would be viewed the same way an allowance for electricity, heating, a/c or even water would be viewed.    Most companies still are paying rent on their office space, utilities on a $ per sq foot basis, and internet charges, etc.    One way to look at it is that employees are also saving a ton of money on dry cleaning, commuting costs, and especially commuting time.    Now if they were saving on office expenses and not reimbursing you for additional expenses you are incurring, that's a fair argument.
Agree. I still have my office that my firm pays for and my interest bill is the same anyway so for me at least I dont mind not getting reimbursed. If someone was completely remote permanently then I'd feel differently everyones situation is different.

My über eats expense went up dramatically the last 2 years so my new years resolution it to cut that crap out or at least down when working from home
 
section10 post=448562 said:
a/c is not needed now. we have our windows open.
the nicest florida december in 17 years.
low 70's every day.
Friend that lives in Florida is always concerned when AC goes on the fritz or the power is lost not so much because of being hot but because with Florida's high humidity it will cause a mold problem.
 
bamafan post=448591 said:
section10 post=448562 said:
a/c is not needed now. we have our windows open.
the nicest florida december in 17 years.
low 70's every day.
Friend that lives in Florida is always concerned when AC goes on the fritz or the power is lost not so much because of being hot but because with Florida's high humidity it will cause a mold problem.

In Florida a serious mold problem can cost between 15-100k or more when all is said and done. Once there is a bloom it will cover all porous surfaces.
 
one can purchase a "smart" a/c thermostat, my next door neighbor has one. it enables one to remotely control/monitor your a/c. you can change the house's temperature setting up or down. you can know the current temperature of the house. great for snowbirds.
 
Beast of the East post=448561 said:
MainMan post=448516 said:
Two years working from home and my company still refuses to pay a portion of employees' internet costs.
It's this type of nickel and diming that drives a lot of folks to leave. 
I understand your dissatisfaction.   I think it's reasonable for a small company especially to pay a share of internet costs, but being that home internet pre-exists for virtually every at home worker that it would be viewed the same way an allowance for electricity, heating, a/c or even water would be viewed.    Most companies still are paying rent on their office space, utilities on a $ per sq foot basis, and internet charges, etc.    One way to look at it is that employees are also saving a ton of money on dry cleaning, commuting costs, and especially commuting time.    Now if they were saving on office expenses and not reimbursing you for additional expenses you are incurring, that's a fair argument.

I deal with a lot of long-form video and audio that has to be uploaded quickly so I upgraded my home internet connection to the highest FIOS offers.

 
 
MainMan post=448640 said:
Beast of the East post=448561 said:
MainMan post=448516 said:
Two years working from home and my company still refuses to pay a portion of employees' internet costs.
It's this type of nickel and diming that drives a lot of folks to leave. 
I understand your dissatisfaction.   I think it's reasonable for a small company especially to pay a share of internet costs, but being that home internet pre-exists for virtually every at home worker that it would be viewed the same way an allowance for electricity, heating, a/c or even water would be viewed.    Most companies still are paying rent on their office space, utilities on a $ per sq foot basis, and internet charges, etc.    One way to look at it is that employees are also saving a ton of money on dry cleaning, commuting costs, and especially commuting time.    Now if they were saving on office expenses and not reimbursing you for additional expenses you are incurring, that's a fair argument.

I deal with a lot of long-form video and audio that has to be uploaded quickly so I upgraded my home internet connection to the highest FIOS offers.


 
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