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I really thought we had it. It really comes down to free throws . Been saying it all year and anyone that knows basketball knows free grows wins game . Penn state , cuse, providence, now creighton. We missed about 3 crucial free throws down the stretch woulda of been 4 if jordan hit a one in one. Pointer shoulda been all over Doug for the last 11 seconds, this really is heart breaking. Now either we win 10 in a row or run the table at the big east tourney neither is out of the question.
 
Maybe it's simply anecdotal and out of context, but during the final timeout, Jordan was at the center, doing all the encouraging and talking, and Harrison was off to the side. Has the time come for Jordan to take over the team, or as Moose puts it, become Batman? He seems to have the moxie to raise his game in bigger moments.
 
Please read this with John Lennon's "Imagine" playing in your mind.
Imagine there's no defense planned for McDermott. 
Imagine allowing one player to beat you from beginning to the last shot.

Umm, the plan was to let him score and keep the other guys (Wragge) from going bonkers from three. The plan was fine, and if the refs don't call Jordan on that bullsh*t charge, we probably win. Again, they missed FTs at the end, which you can't blame on coach.
 
Hey fellas.....I thought our program was embarrassing, and these players were terrible, and our coaching staff sucked?

The 0-5 record spoke for itself, 0-5 sucks. Maybe Lavin was right about February.
If they keep this up and some how make the NCAA then I won`t doubt Lavin ever again.

Now the game, they gotta stop putting themselves in these holes.
Wisconson: down 18 get to with 4 but lose by 11
Syracuse: down 14 then take a 2pnt lead but lose by 5
Now Creighton: down 18 then fight back to tie but lose by 3
If say we only go down 7-8 at the most then FFS we could have beating all damn 3

And lastly can someone F`ING tell me WTF at the end we leave the best scoring in the nation open, he had 36 before that shot and he`s standing there all alone you f`ing kidding me That really pissed me off.
Doug 39 rest of team 24 @MSG double and triple team his ass and let the rest of the team beat them.

Well on to Marq, CAN NOT LET THIS BECOME A LOSING STREAK, IT`S A BIG GAME REDMEN.
 
The team played a great game but lost to a great player. They should never have been coming into this game at 2-5.
 
Maybe it's simply anecdotal and out of context, but during the final timeout, Jordan was at the center, doing all the encouraging and talking, and Harrison was off to the side. Has the time come for Jordan to take over the team, or as Moose puts it, become Batman? He seems to have the moxie to raise his game in bigger moments.

could this be what lavin was alluding to when he said "come february"???????
 
I'm sorry, but I do have to laugh at all of the posters who actually believe this team is going to make a run in the Big East Tournament. Can we just face the fact that we are rooting for a below average team? They're 2-6 in conference play and their most impressive wins this season are against 12-8 Seton Hall and 11-9 Butler.

Listen, we can talk about blown charge calls, moving screens, and not closing out on the unanimous POY. But let's not forget the awful start to the second half that made it virtually impossible to win that game. Good basketball teams rarely are on the losing end of a 15-1 run. And there seems to be a story after every single game.

I'm not saying don't root for our team. Like most of you, I'll go to my fair share in February because I love this program. But it's time to accept the fact that our team just isn't very good and we probably shouldn't expect a reversal of fortunes anytime soon.
 
I'm sorry, but I do have to laugh at all of the posters who actually believe this team is going to make a run in the Big East Tournament. Can we just face the fact that we are rooting for a below average team? They're 2-6 in conference play and their most impressive wins this season are against 12-8 Seton Hall and 11-9 Butler.

Listen, we can talk about blown charge calls, moving screens, and not closing out on the unanimous POY. But let's not forget the awful start to the second half that made it virtually impossible to win that game. Good basketball teams rarely are on the losing end of a 15-1 run. And there seems to be a story after every single game.

I'm not saying don't root for our team. Like most of you, I'll go to my fair share in February because I love this program. But it's time to accept the fact that our team just isn't very good and we probably shouldn't expect a reversal of fortunes anytime soon.

The really hard part is we are just so very close to being not just a mediocre team, but a very good team. Most very good teams do not have so many guys who can hurt you in one way or another as St. John's. Many mediocre teams would be just fine with Greene and Branch as their starting backcourt. Or a two headed center in Obekpa/GG. Or three forwards the caliber of Sanchez/Pointer/Sampson. Most don't have a Harrison/Jordan backcourt pairing. Or a marquis coach who can recruit, as tarnished as his rep is on here. Over the past 6 weeks by various posters, each and every one of these guys has been singled out as terrible and a reason for our failures. We are just a little short - whether it be the team having to learn how to win, or being that one player short - either short a star or waiting for him to emerge. Soon, maybe soon.
 
Love the fight, disappointed by the result. Wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have so much ground to make up.

And man, you guys really will blame Lavin for anything. It's one thing to be critical, I do it too but its another to b*tch and complain about everything the man does

Sorry.
People on this sight have been complaining all season about Harrison's D. Should he have been out there for that play? And was I the only person that noticed that Chiles was running the timeout on the final play while Lavin was like the water boy outside looking in.
But after 36 points in a tie game, you let anyone but the possible national Player Of The Year beat you.

That was Rico running the TO.

Anyone.


I don't blame Lavin for the final play, I did when it first happened but after watching it again and again and taking it in it wasn't Lavin it was a mental mistake by Obekpa/Harrison
 
Love the fight, disappointed by the result. Wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have so much ground to make up.

And man, you guys really will blame Lavin for anything. It's one thing to be critical, I do it too but its another to b*tch and complain about everything the man does

Sorry.
People on this sight have been complaining all season about Harrison's D. Should he have been out there for that play? And was I the only person that noticed that Chiles was running the timeout on the final play while Lavin was like the water boy outside looking in.
But after 36 points in a tie game, you let anyone but the possible national Player Of The Year beat you.

That was Rico running the TO.

Anyone.


I don't blame Lavin for the final play, I did when it first happened but after watching it again and again and taking it in it wasn't Lavin it was a mental mistake by Obekpa/Harrison

I ran a lot of scenarios through my head. If Obekpa came up high and defended like a guard, he probably gets back doored as McDermott takes off to the hoop. He left too much room between himself and McDermott, because he was still playing help defense. If someone else had scored on a layup, there would have been screams from us on the replay showing Obekpa 22 feet from the basket. If we has assigned to guard McDermott, he should have been instructed to ignore everyone else and play him straight up and deny him the ball by all means. Thinking about it carefully, though, and not just by hindsight, someone else should have been guarding McDermott, probably Pointer.
 
How in gods name could lavin not facegaurd mcdermott!!! I blame this loss solely on that.... Obekpa made a bonehead play by helping on other side of court.... Again or lack of basketball iq lost it
 
The team played a great game but lost to a great player. They should never have been coming into this game at 2-5.

I'm sorry but they came nowhere near to playing a great game.They deserve all the credit in the world for coming back but they did not play a great game.
 
I think we need more playing time for Hooper.

Are you nuts? Hooper cost us the game; he is the primary reason we are where we are. I say they just throw Hooper out of school before he does any more damage to the team.
 
Well, that stunk! Would rather have been blown out than lose this way against the supposedly best team in the BE. :angry:
You would rather be blown out by 20 than lose on a shot by arguably the best player in the nation with 2 .6 seconds left?????? Really????

Yes! The pain would have been lessened. YMMV.
 
Please read this with John Lennon's "Imagine" playing in your mind.
Imagine there's no defense planned for McDermott. 
Imagine allowing one player to beat you from beginning to the last shot.

Umm, the plan was to let him score and keep the other guys (Wragge) from going bonkers from three. The plan was fine, and if the refs don't call Jordan on that bullsh*t charge, we probably win. Again, they missed FTs at the end, which you can't blame on coach.

Are you kidding us? Lavin's plan was to let him score 39 points and beat us single handedly? Did we even watch the Providence game film? Players like that have to be denied the ball!! Our defense on him was horrible because the guys on him play soft defense. Sampson was too weak for him, Pointer was never close enough to him, Sanchez was mostly MIA and Obekpa had no business being anywhere near him. Even assigning Marco to guard him would have been a better option than the poor acting job done by the cast of characters above. I am not blaming Lavin for it entirely but by the end of the first half even a casual redmen dot com coach would know you cannot allow McDermott another 20 point half. In the ideal world our future Spanish D League player Sanchez would have had the assignment but he no comprende defense.
 
I think we need more playing time for Hooper.

Are you nuts? Hooper cost us the game; he is the primary reason we are where we are. I say they just throw Hooper out of school before he does any more damage to the team.

You better check Harrison's play-by-play blunders in the first half and add Phil Greene's in the second half and Sanchez work slow down the entire game if you want to point fingers.
 
Listen, we can talk about blown charge calls, moving screens, and not closing out on the unanimous POY. But let's not forget the awful start to the second half that made it virtually impossible to win that game. Good basketball teams rarely are on the losing end of a 15-1 run. And there seems to be a story after every single game.


Impossible to win due to our awful start? I guess being tied with 1:34 to go, and then again with 11seconds to go means that this game was impossible to win.
 
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