UConn Still Shopping ?

I'll put it this way. I'd love uconn back, but not just to park basketball. We aren't a holdover league. That's what Uconn wants. That doesn't jive with me. Our members need to be invested in our conference. That unfortunately will be unlikely with uconn who is still looking only at football.

Would I love uconn here? Certainly. But only with full investment in all sports, except football of course. Huge penalty to leave etc. not in its current form. We don't gain much as is.
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I agree about the other sports and am surprised by the article saying only football while previously they were discussing bringing everything but football.
 
With some $ caveats, I see taking them back as a no-brainer.
 
The "new" Big East is a great league
While I miss the old rivalries, Xavier, Creighton and Butler have been great additions
To Yukon and the others that left us "flat", I say "good riddance"
You ran out on us for what you thought were greener pastures; hope you enjoy them
You're not welcome here anymore
 
I know we are all supposed to hate UConn, but holding a grudge against them makes no sense to me, as it hampers the potential success of the Big East. UConn is a national program with a national fanbase, as a result of all of there success over the years. They will bring bigger crowds and improved viewership for the conference on FS1, which can lead to more potential money in the future. However, if the Big East senses we are being used as a stepping stone than talks should end now. Also, I believe UConn will have to come with another capable program as a 12th team, particularly in the midwest.

In my opinion, the additional program should be Wichita State. They are a successful basketball-only school with great facilities and a great fanbase, which is a recipe to be successful in the Big East as Butler, Creighton, and Xavier have all proven. Cincy would be great, but unlike UConn they may have better options for there football program in the future. Gonzaga, San Diego State, Saint Mary's, UNLV don't make sense geographically. VCU and Dayton would be great, but Georgetown and Xavier, respectively, probably would not allow it.

No divisions, but it should be unwritten. A full round robin is great, but not as important as UConn and Wichita State. Round robin in the East and West, thats 10 games for each team. Than play each team in the other division once, that's 6 games. Than rotate 2 extra cross-divisional games each season, that's a total of 18 games. As for St. John's, play all the east teams and one other midwest team at MSG. That will reduce the occasional small crowds at the Garden against midwest teams.

Expanded Big East
East
1. Georgetown
2. Providence
3. Seton Hall
4. St. John's
5. Uconn
6. Villanova
Midwest
7. Butler
8. Creighton
9. DePaul
10. Marquette
11. Wichita State
12. Xavier
 
I see no benefit to SJU by giving Yukon a stage in NYC.
 
No no no no no no no no and no. Let's stick with the formula that is working - private, basketball-only schools. And that means no UConn. Have fun in the irrelevant AAC...
 
I too am not in favor of having any Uconn or Wichita State join the Big East. In Uconn’s case, the idea that the “Uconn big wigs” would be satisfied with playing football in one conference and then basketball in the Big East seems unlikely and temporary at best. Uconn should find a conference to call home and suffer the consequences. Contact the Big 10, ACC, SEC and offer some cash and buy in.

To this point, I don’t see a compelling reason to expand the Big East. The current format is competitive enjoyable. The private and or religious school uniformity seems to work. If there are compelling issues with travel, the East – West format suggested in JO23’s comments seems logical, but perhaps St. Louis and Richmond might be appropriate.
 
I know we are all supposed to hate UConn, but holding a grudge against them makes no sense to me, as it hampers the potential success of the Big East. UConn is a national program with a national fanbase, as a result of all of there success over the years. They will bring bigger crowds and improved viewership for the conference on FS1, which can lead to more potential money in the future. However, if the Big East senses we are being used as a stepping stone than talks should end now. Also, I believe UConn will have to come with another capable program as a 12th team, particularly in the midwest.

In my opinion, the additional program should be Wichita State. They are a successful basketball-only school with great facilities and a great fanbase, which is a recipe to be successful in the Big East as Butler, Creighton, and Xavier have all proven. Cincy would be great, but unlike UConn they may have better options for there football program in the future. Gonzaga, San Diego State, Saint Mary's, UNLV don't make sense geographically. VCU and Dayton would be great, but Georgetown and Xavier, respectively, probably would not allow it.

No divisions, but it should be unwritten. A full round robin is great, but not as important as UConn and Wichita State. Round robin in the East and West, thats 10 games for each team. Than play each team in the other division once, that's 6 games. Than rotate 2 extra cross-divisional games each season, that's a total of 18 games. As for St. John's, play all the east teams and one other midwest team at MSG. That will reduce the occasional small crowds at the Garden against midwest teams.

Expanded Big East
East
1. Georgetown
2. Providence
3. Seton Hall
4. St. John's
5. Uconn
6. Villanova
Midwest
7. Butler
8. Creighton
9. DePaul
10. Marquette
11. Wichita State
12. Xavier
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Unfortunately what happens with yours and other expansion ideas is that they do not benefit SJU as much as they benefit the other teams - especially Pukon. Screw em. They're in a downslide now. Why should we rescue them .
 
The "new" Big East is a great league
While I miss the old rivalries, Xavier, Creighton and Butler have been great additions
To Yukon and the others that left us "flat", I say "good riddance"
You ran out on us for what you thought were greener pastures; hope you enjoy them
You're not welcome here anymore
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That's the deal right there.
 
I too am not in favor of having any Uconn or Wichita State join the Big East. In Uconn’s case, the idea that the “Uconn big wigs” would be satisfied with playing football in one conference and then basketball in the Big East seems unlikely and temporary at best. Uconn should find a conference to call home and suffer the consequences. Contact the Big 10, ACC, SEC and offer some cash and buy in.

To this point, I don’t see a compelling reason to expand the Big East. The current format is competitive enjoyable. The private and or religious school uniformity seems to work. If there are compelling issues with travel, the East – West format suggested in JO23’s comments seems logical, but perhaps St. Louis and Richmond might be appropriate.
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I see your point and I love the Big East as it is too. The new Big East has defintly surpassed any expectations and I would be fine if it stayed like this. But, I just feel if the situation presented itself where UConn wanted to come, and their was an agreement to make it extremly difficult for them to ever leave, you have to take them. For example, if they moved football to FCS or something like that. Than after that I feel the next added school would have to be Wichita State.

Although, I wouldn't expand in the near future unless UConn was coming. In my opinion, schools like Richmond and St. Louis would water down the Big East.

To make it clear what I am trying to say, the only way the Big East should expand and give up on the round robin and private schools is if UConn wants in and wants to stay in and Wichita State comes with them. Nothing else is worth giving up on what we have.
 
Based on a winning basketball tradition and having to be a private school then Dayton is by far the best option east of the Mississippi. Gonzaga being the best west of the Mississippi. I don't see any other private schools that really add value. St. John's and DePaul getting better is really important.

I don't really care that UCONN is a public school but don't like that they have an FBS football program. I think it's better for both parties to leave things alone and there are many pluses and minuses for them to come back to the Big East.
 
The only way I would consider it (and I'm an adamant no on letting UConn back in) is if all sports are in the Big East, their football is an independent and UConn divides up all of their football revenue among all the Big East schools. I hate the idea of letting one school back in with an FBS football team. No matter how bad UConn football is, having an FBS football team gives them access to revenue that isn't available to any other Big East school and puts their athletic department budget (I'd imagine) way over any other Big East school. I think I read in 2015 that UConn's their budget was over 70 million dollars. Does anyone have a list of what Big East school's athletic budgets are?
 
If the conference wishes to expand, the only school I would take is Dayton. We would go to 20 conference games, leaving 11 out of conference games.
As for UConn, play them out of conference and alternate the MSG game with Syracuse. It gives us a good revenue game each year, and both road games would get us on ESPN.
Any new member should be compatible with the current schools and be in for all sports, not just basketball.
 
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