Transfers SJU May Get Involved With

[Class of 72]

Queens is not a shit hole. It is the most diverse county in the country.

Prison is pretty diverse too, but I wouldn't want to spend four years there.

Seriously and no offense intended but have you ever been off Long Island? Queens is awful and Jamaica makes Raleigh look like Paris.

I didn't realize you were up near Albany. I thought you lived somewhere nice.

Golly that's hurtful. For the record, upstate New York is beautiful. You should visit sometime. It has a delineated seasons, majestic mountains, raging rivers, pristine lakes, and interesting wildlife. I'm a half an hour from some of the premier concert venues and art museums in the country. I'm half an hour from the best thoroughbred racing meet in the world. Land is cheap, taxes are low (for NY) and traffic is non existent. And best of all it has fewer New Yorkers than almost anywhere else in New York. I mean sure, it's not paradise: there isn't a 7-11 on every corner and we don't have too many Olive Gardens (fingers crossed) but there is a Cracker Barrel up the road a piece if I feel the need for cheap bad food. It's by no means ideal, but utopia by definition doesn't exist. If it did it wouldn't be utopia.

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But Utopia Parkway exists and St Johns has it

Never has a road had a moniker more poorly applied.

If you want real irony:

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[SJU85]

My post says that campus is a factor for many kids. I also said how much a facor varies. It could be high on the list or low. I t also depends on what a kid is looking for in a campus. I also include campus activities ias part of it.

St. John's has vastly improved aesthetically since I was a student no doubt. The area surrounding it is okay to. Some kids will like it, some won't. It will look even better with the atmosphere of winning and the excitement and buzz it will bring.

 

[Class of 72]

Manhattan, the greatest city in America

Manhattan isn't a city stupid, it's a borough.

If you spent less time shoveling bullshit and snow upstate you would have remembered that real New Yawkas have always referred to Manhattan as "the city"........but thanks for the compliment.

 

[Knight]

In terms of the campus itself, I have to tell you, it has improved dramatically over recent years.

I will create a new post about that.

There are far worse..far far worse campuses. FH may have done some really lowlife stuff, but he put money raised into capital improvements to the campus.

The better the team gets, the easier it will be to recruit. Period.

Mullin
Berry
Mark
Jackson
Malik Sealy
Jayson Williams
Felipe Lopez
Zendon Hamilton
Ron Artest
And I believe
Singleton
Glover
Cain
Posters - more knowledgeable than I - can add many more NY kids who played in Queens

And now S'hampton Ponds
Some kids will stay right here in NYC
No forcing
No fretting

We only need one local
Player a year plus one " outsider"
It's doable!

all the best
WTS
( and the T stands for...)

Many great players came back after they found the grass wasn't greener somewhere else:

Searcy
Carter (HAWAII!!!)
Rencher

tons more.

Billy Schaeffer

No

Schaefer is from Bellrose. Played at Holy Cross.

 

[Class of 72]

Ballston Spa the bottle capital of the world.

The national bottle museum is a treasure.

The difference between culture in the upstate, upset mind and us city slickers.

This place has more character than that bottle museum:

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[REB]

Can we rename this thread "Useless banter about the campus since we're not involved with any transfers?
Seriously I keep coming to this thread only to be re-disappointed that there's no news (or hope it seems) that we could land one big that could play for us next year only to find back and forth about whether its the campus' fault. Geez.

 

[Class of 72]

Can we rename this thread "Useless banter about the campus since we're not involved with any transfers?
Seriously I keep coming to this thread only to be re-disappointed that there's no news (or hope it seems) that we could land one big that could play for us next year only to find back and forth about whether its the campus' fault. Geez.

Sorry Reb, not one able bodied recruit for next season. That colossus that selected South Florida even looks good now. So, we are doomed on this thread to point out that Queens sucks, Matt is short, Mullin can't coach, the campus is too far from a Winn Dixie, the museums and attractions in the sticks of anywhere USA are more attractive than anything NYC has to offer, the hookers are cheaper in Waco and Stillwater, etc., etc.
But I have faith in Matt! When one door is slammed in his face, he is willing to have 5 more slammed in his face until he lands a recruit for next year. Any recruit will do at this point.

 

[OLV72]

Ballston Spa the bottle capital of the world.

The national bottle museum is a treasure.

You can't beat Aqueduct in the winter.

 

[OLV72]

Queens is not a shit hole. It is the most diverse county in the country.

Do you think the average high school star athlete cares if Queens is diverse though?

The things athletes generally look for we are probably lacking in. Sucks but it's true.

But somehow this trash school and area has 4 four star recruits ( Ponds, Yawke, Clark, lovett, and one five star recruit ( Simon).

I expect Marvin Clark to be a nice little player for us but let's be clear, contrary to what many posters have stated recently, he was not a top 100 recruit and was rated 3 stars by most services including ESPN and Rivals.

Yet Izzo thought enough of him to give him a schollie.

Just stating facts. Another one is that Mullin is no Izzo, since you brought him up.

True....but he did not become the Izzo we know right out of the gate. After his first two seasons Izzo built an NIT team. It's hard to say if would turned this around in year two...or year one of a complete roster turnover.

Again, I was just working in facts, not stating opinions. Fact is Izzo has never had a losing season, even in conference, and never missed the post season. Been to 20 straight dances, 7 final fours, 2 elite 8s and 4 sweet sixteens. One of the current and really all time greats so, yeah, I'm willing to bet he'd of done better, but that wasn't the point. If Chris can be half as good we will be thankful.

Must have misread the it as an opinion. Just pointing out that even the greatest coaches take a few years to get their programs in gear. Even the great Izzo did not get his team to the dance his first two seasons.

 

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

Queens is not a shit hole. It is the most diverse county in the country.

Do you think the average high school star athlete cares if Queens is diverse though?

The things athletes generally look for we are probably lacking in. Sucks but it's true.

But somehow this trash school and area has 4 four star recruits ( Ponds, Yawke, Clark, lovett, and one five star recruit ( Simon).

I expect Marvin Clark to be a nice little player for us but let's be clear, contrary to what many posters have stated recently, he was not a top 100 recruit and was rated 3 stars by most services including ESPN and Rivals.

Yet Izzo thought enough of him to give him a schollie.

Just stating facts. Another one is that Mullin is no Izzo, since you brought him up.

True....but he did not become the Izzo we know right out of the gate. After his first two seasons Izzo built an NIT team. It's hard to say if would turned this around in year two...or year one of a complete roster turnover.

Again, I was just working in facts, not stating opinions. Fact is Izzo has never had a losing season, even in conference, and never missed the post season. Been to 20 straight dances, 7 final fours, 2 elite 8s and 4 sweet sixteens. One of the current and really all time greats so, yeah, I'm willing to bet he'd of done better, but that wasn't the point. If Chris can be half as good we will be thankful.

Must have misread the it as an opinion. Just pointing out that even the greatest coaches take a few years to get their programs in gear. Even the great Izzo did not get his team to the dance his first two seasons.

Yes OLV!!!

Or my fellow alum Mike K who struggled and was almost let go from Duke
(first three seasons' records: 17-13, 10-17,
11-17)
AND he inherited a roster AND a recruiting pipeline whereas Chris had NEITHER -
No players
No recruiting connections
So
let's get real w giving our coaching staff TIME
And stick the premature posters' criticism where you can't see it, where the sun don't shine e.g. in a closet or...lol
all the best
WTS

 

[JohnnyFan]

Got home from work to see 40 new posts in this thread! I was sure at least one new prospect had been named.

Nope......a debate on whether Queens sucks or not.

 

[JohnnyFan]

I think we're really over estimating just how much we need a big bruiser inside. I like our frontcourt of Owens, Clark, Yawke and Ahmed.

Owens foul trouble was due to the backcourts lack of defensive principles and having to attempt blocking players getting to the lane. That will improve. Especially with Simon. Yawke, in no way, shape or form will have a similar season to least year. Clark and Ahmed will fight for boards. These guys aren't very tall but they are built like bulls.

The Big East as a conference lacks a lot of front court strength​. The last two teams​ I remember with any serious frontcourt presence were the 2016 Wildcats with Ochefu and Xavier, boasting Farr and Reynolds down low. Maybe Delgado and Spellman change that this year.

Let's worry about competing in our conference first before we discuss the national picture. I think with this roster in place we can finish in the top half of the league next year. Once we start winning the roster needs will be addressed much easier.

"Maybe Delgado"? Was it not enough when he went for 21 pts and 20 rebs against us this year? Yes.....that was in one game.

 

[mjmaherjr]

Got home from work to see 40 new posts in this thread! I was sure at least one new prospect had been named.

Nope......a debate on whether Queens sucks or not.

lets just change the title to " recruit who may not get involved with SJU "

 

[SJU85]

Queens is not a shit hole. It is the most diverse county in the country.

Prison is pretty diverse too, but I wouldn't want to spend four years there.

Seriously and no offense intended but have you ever been off Long Island? Queens is awful and Jamaica makes Raleigh look like Paris.

I didn't realize you were up near Albany. I thought you lived somewhere nice.

Golly that's hurtful. For the record, upstate New York is beautiful. You should visit sometime. It has a delineated seasons, majestic mountains, raging rivers, pristine lakes, and interesting wildlife. I'm a half an hour from some of the premier concert venues and art museums in the country. I'm half an hour from the best thoroughbred racing meet in the world. Land is cheap, taxes are low (for NY) and traffic is non existent. And best of all it has fewer New Yorkers than almost anywhere else in New York. I mean sure, it's not paradise: there isn't a 7-11 on every corner and we don't have too many Olive Gardens (fingers crossed) but there is a Cracker Barrel up the road a piece if I feel the need for cheap bad food. It's by no means ideal, but utopia by definition doesn't exist. If it did it wouldn't be utopia.

All of which is immaterial to the point: that for a college student choosing between Jamaica and nearly anywhere else on the basis of location and culture is a no brainer. Because other than proximity to Manhattan there's nothing that Queens offers that's any other college town doesn't offer as well. Which is why SJU might be an attractive destination not for domestic players but for foreign ones - because when they think of the US they think of NY. But it's also why NY players want to get out, because they've seen the sheer awfulness of it.

btw I love Saratoga and Ballston Spa the bottle capital of the world.

I will be up in Saratoga on business next week. Any suggestions for Dinner?

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Queens is not a shit hole. It is the most diverse county in the country.

Prison is pretty diverse too, but I wouldn't want to spend four years there.

Seriously and no offense intended but have you ever been off Long Island? Queens is awful and Jamaica makes Raleigh look like Paris.

I didn't realize you were up near Albany. I thought you lived somewhere nice.

Golly that's hurtful. For the record, upstate New York is beautiful. You should visit sometime. It has a delineated seasons, majestic mountains, raging rivers, pristine lakes, and interesting wildlife. I'm a half an hour from some of the premier concert venues and art museums in the country. I'm half an hour from the best thoroughbred racing meet in the world. Land is cheap, taxes are low (for NY) and traffic is non existent. And best of all it has fewer New Yorkers than almost anywhere else in New York. I mean sure, it's not paradise: there isn't a 7-11 on every corner and we don't have too many Olive Gardens (fingers crossed) but there is a Cracker Barrel up the road a piece if I feel the need for cheap bad food. It's by no means ideal, but utopia by definition doesn't exist. If it did it wouldn't be utopia.

All of which is immaterial to the point: that for a college student choosing between Jamaica and nearly anywhere else on the basis of location and culture is a no brainer. Because other than proximity to Manhattan there's nothing that Queens offers that's any other college town doesn't offer as well. Which is why SJU might be an attractive destination not for domestic players but for foreign ones - because when they think of the US they think of NY. But it's also why NY players want to get out, because they've seen the sheer awfulness of it.

btw I love Saratoga and Ballston Spa the bottle capital of the world.

I will be up in Saratoga on business next week. Any suggestions for Dinner?

Druthers Brewery

 

[beast of the east]

 

[Sjugrad13]

[URL][URL]https://www.google.com/am...om/most-dangerous-colleges-in-america-2012-11[/URL][/URL]

Why would you post this?? You had me scared as hell. I'm happy we weren't on this list.

 

[OLV72]

[URL][URL]https://www.google.com/am...om/most-dangerous-colleges-in-america-2012-11[/URL][/URL]

Why would you post this?? You had me scared as hell. I'm happy we weren't on this list.

Did Duke's rise the number 3 coincide with the arrival of Grayson Allen?

 

[Class of 72]

In other news according to ESPN, Kevin Knox added to Kentucky's top-ranked recruiting class.
"He is the 6th five-star prospect to commit to John Calipari's program in the 2017 class, joining P.J. Washington (No. 11), Nick Richards (No. 16), Jarred Vanderbilt (No. 18), Quade Green (No. 23) and Hamidou Diallo.
Diallo enrolled at Kentucky in January, but didn't play and then entered his name into the NBA draft without an agent. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (No. 33) and Jemarl Baker (No. 63) are also in the fold.
Kevin Knox, the No. 2 small forward in the 2017 class, joins P.J. Washington, Nick Richards, Jarred Vanderbilt, Quade Green and Hamidou Diallo as five-star prospects who've committed to Kentucky. Brian Rothmuller/Icon Sportswire
Calipari is not done in 2017, either.
Mohamed Bamba, the top uncommitted prospect still available, is choosing among Kentucky, Texas, Duke and Michigan."

Does anyone remember the last 5 star prospect signed by St. John's?  Let's reminisce.

 

[redmannorth]

In other news according to ESPN, Kevin Knox added to Kentucky's top-ranked recruiting class.
"He is the 6th five-star prospect to commit to John Calipari's program in the 2017 class, joining P.J. Washington (No. 11), Nick Richards (No. 16), Jarred Vanderbilt (No. 18), Quade Green (No. 23) and Hamidou Diallo.
Diallo enrolled at Kentucky in January, but didn't play and then entered his name into the NBA draft without an agent. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (No. 33) and Jemarl Baker (No. 63) are also in the fold.
Kevin Knox, the No. 2 small forward in the 2017 class, joins P.J. Washington, Nick Richards, Jarred Vanderbilt, Quade Green and Hamidou Diallo as five-star prospects who've committed to Kentucky. Brian Rothmuller/Icon Sportswire
Calipari is not done in 2017, either.
Mohamed Bamba, the top uncommitted prospect still available, is choosing among Kentucky, Texas, Duke and Michigan."

Does anyone remember the last 5 star prospect signed by St. John's?  Let's reminisce.

Rysheed Jordan.
Ponds was a very high four star.