Transfer Portal

MainMan said:
As for everyone thinking there will be a wholesale change in SJU's roster like two years ago- I don't necessarily see that happening.

I think Pitino sees an immediate opportunity next year in an underachieving team with three all-conference players in Posh, Joel and AJ plus other valuable pieces like a 4th-year player in Dylan, a promising guard in Kolby, etc.

I'm sure he's thinking to himself that he could easily take an 18-win team and make them a 25-win team without jettisoning the whole roster. He has certainly walked into far worse situations before.
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I agree. The talent and experience is there
 
NCJohnnie said:
Don't think it's as simple as that. Very clear that some of the players were very fond of CMA (especially Soriano) but they also may like the school, their teammates and the chance to play for a great coach like Pitino. Also think a NY kid like Posh may really relish the chance to finish up with a great senior year after a disappointing junior year. Finally, no reason for them not to wait a week and see how the coaching situation plays out before making any portal decision.
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Or maybe the NIL opportunities for a 25 win team in NYC is a big deal? Assuming Pitino of course
 
BrooklynRed said:
Transfers from a coach's prior school are common. Willard to Maryland and Long followed. Holloway to Seton Hall and Ndefo followed. Could see 1/2 players follow a coach but shouldn't leave cabinet empty. Others may transfer on their own to other schools.
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I look at it as whoever Iona's best player is is better than our worst five players. So bring him along, if Pitino wants him.
 
willydilly1 said:
I think it goes both when when it comes to employees/players and employers/schools. Yes, you want the loyalty from the players, but what about the promises that are being made to these players? How often are the players told "we want you at our school...you are going to be a big part of our team next year and the following years", only to get there and ride the pine? Similarly, how often do companies talk themselves up during interviews with potential hires, and then that person finds themselves working weekends and/or longer hours than expected?

The people in charge are not just coaches, but are also salesmen. They will say whatever they need to say to get the sale/recruit. With that comes many a broken promises, so you can't fault a player for going elsewhere if he feels slighted.
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I don't fault anybody for anything. People are free to do as they please. I'm just saying that from my perspective, as long time employer, I always looked to hire people who had a track record of staying in one place for a long time. Thankfully I'm no longer an employer, because there is no way that I'd want to deal with this younger generation of employees.
 
vegasman2000 said:
I look at it as whoever Iona's best player is is better than our worst five players. So bring him along, if Pitino wants him.
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If Mass comes along with Rick then his best player from Manhattan, Perez, might be an interesting pursuit as he left Manhattan after they fired Mass and went to WV but the NCAA didn't allow immediate eligibility and now he may head to portal.
 
I find it strange that no one from st johns has entered the portal. Makes me think if pitino is hired, they would all want to return. Looks like the troubled players like curbello/pinzon had an issue w/ the coach, not the university.
 
Mullins Revenge said:
I find it strange that no one from st johns has entered the portal. Makes me think if pitino is hired, they would all want to return. Looks like the troubled players like curbello/pinzon had an issue w/ the coach, not the university.
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I think they just want to have a conversation with Pitino before making a decision. The fact they haven’t entered the portal yet shows a willingness to return which is obviously good.

On the flip side, wouldn’t be surprised if Pitino tells a player like Curbelo to “explore his options outside of SJU” but Pitino did turn around a similar player in Russ Smith so maybe he thinks he can do the same for Curbelo
 
Mullins Revenge said:
I find it strange that no one from st johns has entered the portal. Makes me think if pitino is hired, they would all want to return. Looks like the troubled players like curbello/pinzon had an issue w/ the coach, not the university.
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Why would anyone in their right mind want to leave and screw up a chance to play for Pitino? Everyone they know would call them an idiot.

He when championships, gets his teams deep into the Tournament, makes players better for the NBA draft.

These kids are real smart for not just leaving.
 
MainMan said:
The private sector pension has gone the way of the dodo bird as have retirement medical benefits. I'm glad you were able to snag it. You will likely have a better retirement than most on this board.

Those benefits were a major incentive to stay employed in one place.

The only incentive for longevity these days is often PTO/vacation time and fringe benefits like flexible work, seniority, etc.

Everyone is a free agent these days. Jumping from job to job often increases your salary significantly.

Your retirement is entirely up to you. Many employers don't even offer a 401K match. So pump money into it and roll it over from job to job.


Anyway, I'm glad no SJU players have jettisoned just yet. We'll see where we are by this time next week.
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I work in finance and sadly you are on the money
 
BrooklynRed said:
If Mass comes along with Rick then his best player from Manhattan, Perez, might be an interesting pursuit as he left Manhattan after they fired Mass and went to WV but the NCAA didn't allow immediate eligibility and now he may head to portal.
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If the issue is that he already transferred twice before Manhattan, him entering portal would probably be more of the same I think.
 
MugCostanza said:
I think they just want to have a conversation with Pitino before making a decision. The fact they haven’t entered the portal yet shows a willingness to return which is obviously good.

On the flip side, wouldn’t be surprised if Pitino tells a player like Curbelo to “explore his options outside of SJU” but Pitino did turn around a similar player in Russ Smith so maybe he thinks he can do the same for Curbelo
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There is some opportunity cost to consider. A transfer who passed Pitino's muster is probably a better bet than most of our roster, so we want a few open spots for transfers.
 
Would be interesting to see if any of our juniors return for a 4th year at St John's, only because I don't believe we've had a player stay 4 years since who, Amar Alibegovich?
 
MJDinkins said:
Styles is the third Tar Heel player to enter the transfer portal. Hubert Davis has to not only make the NCAA Tournament next season, but I think he has to also win a game in the tourney a season from now to retain his job. That's my belief.

The Tar Heels are easily the most disappointing team in college basketball this season.
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You know that UNC will not tolerate mediocrity. Hubert is most definitely on the seat that is at an above average temperature.
 
MainMan said:
Everyone is a free agent these days. Jumping from job to job often increases your salary significantly.

Your retirement is entirely up to you. Many employers don't even offer a 401K match. So pump money into it and roll it over from job to job.
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We do still have set employer contributions to retirement account. Even with that I've had more than 1 team member jump right after fully vesting. LOL
 
MJDinkins said:
Styles is the third Tar Heel player to enter the transfer portal. Hubert Davis has to not only make the NCAA Tournament next season, but I think he has to also win a game in the tourney a season from now to retain his job. That's my belief.

The Tar Heels are easily the most disappointing team in college basketball this season.
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A bigger fish portaling and a couple decommits from local guys would give me some excitement post tournament.
 
BrooklynRed said:
If Mass comes along with Rick then his best player from Manhattan, Perez, might be an interesting pursuit as he left Manhattan after they fired Mass and went to WV but the NCAA didn't allow immediate eligibility and now he may head to portal.
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Jose Perez is 25 years old and has been to 4 different colleges! I think it's time the man tries to earn some $$$ overseas.
 
Rocket said:
Jose Perez is 25 years old and has been to 4 different colleges! I think it's time the man tries to earn some $$$ overseas.
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It’s premature to speculate on what Players will stay under Pitino . Or , who he wants to stay . Judging from this past season , projecting this 18 win Team to NCAA stature next year is tough . 11 of the Wins occurred in OOC play . The BE results are more indicative of that Groups ability . They finished 8 th . And , won 7 games . Pretty bad . We lose the 2 Seniors , Mathis , Nywie . Plus , most likely Pinzon , Traore and AC . Soriano has 1 more season if he chooses to stay . Look for Pitino to bring in 4-5 players . I doubt it makes sense to retain both , Posh and Curbelo . Neither shoots well enough to be Rick’s PG . Posh is probably a better bet to stay . Storr should stay . Wusu in a off the bench player too. King is a question , As is Gardner . Jones will stay or opt to declare for Pros . Overseas . Don’t know if he’s Rick’s type of Wing . Stanley is 50/50 again ,does he contribute enough Rebounds ? Or , defense. ? So , it’s going to be a PG who can shoot . 2 Long Wings that can shoot the 3 and maybe a off the Bench SG . And , off the Bench BE quality Center who can rebound , defend and shot block . It will be like ordering presents for Christmas . Rick will have a lot of kids wanting to play for him who are currently elsewhere .
 
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