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Nice article. It resonates. Thanks NCJ. I had thought Regis HS closed years back. Maybe they reopened. I'll have to check that. Thanks again.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=383204]Nice article. It resonates. Thanks NCJ. I had thought Regis HS closed years back. Maybe they reopened. I'll have to check that. Thanks again.[/quote]

Regis has been opened throughout and is thriving, tuition free all these years, and continuing to attract the top students in the city to their upper east side Catholic school. Dr. Fauci is one of many to go on to successful and prominent careers.
 
Regis is very much open, Chicago. I was supposed to be going to my 50th reunion there June 13th but it is likely to be rescheduled for later in the year. Got together for lunch with 3 former classmates in March of last year when I was up for the Big East tourney. Great place.
 
I'm unclear as to what the John Hopkins Corona data means. Is the commonly reported data simply the number of positive test results recorded in a geographic area? This would be useful if one was concerned with the speed of testing. The John Hopkins data is often talked about as if it is the number of active cases, which would be more indicative of the disease spread. If a patient who tests positive dies, that is no longer an active case. If a patient tests positive , and a week later is tested and is still positive, that is not a separate infection and not another active case.

Any ideas?
 
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Here is my concern.

I know three people in the NYC/LI area that are exhibiting symptoms of Corona. Right now the policy is not to test anyone even if you have a fever, unless you are a healthcare worker. They say the medical advice will be the same - to self quarantine and seek medical care only if symptoms worsen. These are young people and in very good health, but if they do have Corona, will never be recorded as such.

Is this an attempt by our leaders to quell fears and reduce the number of reported cases? Or is that paranoia and there really are a very limited supply of test kits?
 
I think it's a combo of a shortage of lab supplies and reagents and limited ICU beds and ventilators to treat infected cases. Hence, the 'whoa', unless you develop more severe symptoms.
 
Beast - I believe that the number of people that have COVID-19 in the N.Y. Metro area has to be much higher than the number of people tested. Does anyone know the status of the antibody tests? They are going to be key to getting society functioning once the first big wave passes.
 
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I'm also very concerned that there are just enough dumb people in this country to start congregating in public too soon, and keep the spread going. BElieve it or not we know a very bright medical school student who spent last week in Miami with friends, ignoring all public warnings against such. Clearwater beach was a joke. They should have registered those kids and denied them healthcare or at least put them at the end of the line and their parents paying cash if they contracted the virus.

I do not think our population has the stamina to stay away from public gatherings and practice social distancing for the prescribed period of time.

I was livid when I saw some Orthodox Jewish guy in NJ posting joyfully how he had to cut down the wedding reception for his son from 600 guests to some unknown number, and instead friends and well wishers cheered the couple on from the streets. They were still in too close proximity to each other and putting the public at risk. He spoke joyously how his 80 something year old father danced with his son with a 7 foot string separating them. (If you've never been to an Orthodox wedding, men dance with men mostly, and some women with women, who are seated separately with a trellis type wall between them at a reception). Why not just frigging wait, like some couple I know who have postponed April and June weddings until October. I mean I got the sweet part of his sentiment, but his moron friends all posted such nice things about that. A Few people commented, and I almost did, but let it go.

I'm also sick of watching dancing nurses and dancing cops making videos they hope will go viral. I'm a grouchy bastard for certain.
 
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There are so many different answers in regards to who gets tested. And the same person can be giving the different answers. I work in a hospital. We have been told so many different things. Sometimes it is because policies change so quickly. Sometimes it is because those that should know have no idea. We have plenty of cases in the hospital. So many healthcare workers are getting ill. Some tested. Some not. They don’t want people to quarantine because they are afraid nobody will be there for the patients. But once people show symptoms and can’t work they won’t be there anyway. But they remain there to possibly infect others before going home. Pretty crazy. A bunch in my dept not feeling well. Now they are starting to test more and more.

I myself got tested today with some cold like symptoms that I hope I got from my daughter who was sick for a couple weeks. I was spending more time with her last week so it’s very possible I did get sick from her. But I did have inconsistent low grade fevers. But also normal temps as well. So they felt I had enough in question especially being at the hospital to be tested at urgent care today. We will see after a few days what results are.

At the hospital it’s very sad hearing all the codes being called on these patients. This shit is very real.
 
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Hope you test negative Eic and that you and your family stay well.My wife also works in a hospital and today came home and told me she did not even want to be in the same room with me (and not for the usual reasons ;)) and told our daughter to stay on the other side of the house. Yes, pretty scary stuff going on out there. She has worked in the hospital for 40 years and has never seen anything like it.
 
The virus takes days to 'surface' to reveal symptoms. Makes it very very tough to fight. Let's pray.
 
Lack of widespread testing reduces the denominator in the mortality equation:

X deaths
_____________

Y total infected
so that we don't know just how dangerous this sucker really is.
I want to see the China numbers after they relax the social controls in Wuhan because we don't yet know how long people stay contagious after acute phase of illness.
 
[quote="fuchsia" post=383253]Lack of widespread testing reduces the denominator in the mortality equation:

X deaths
_____________

Y total infected
so that we don't know just how dangerous this sucker really is.
I want to see the China numbers after they relax the social controls in Wuhan because we don't yet know how long people stay contagious after acute phase of illness.[/quote]

How does a table for 4 at Tommy Bahama's sound nows?
 
Mrs. North spécialises in infectious diseases and she is petrified. She fears that here in North America we have yet to see the worst. As Beast had pointed out, a similar situation arose here. a few blocks from my house there was a wedding 13 days ago of 600 people from a very prominent member of the MONTREAL Jewish community. And this was but a few hours after we were told by the local government that you could not congregate in large groups. Needless to say there were positive guests in attendance and the virus spread amongst guests and parts of the City have been closed down. At present the QUEBEC Government has ordered all non essential businesses to be closed throughout the Province.
When Mrs. North saw people on the Florida beaches last week she was livid and said those kids are going home where they came from and will spread the virus there.
Please be careful.

Where is SJUfan2 when we need him. ?
 
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[quote="bamafan" post=383251]Hope you test negative Eic and that you and your family stay well.My wife also works in a hospital and today came home and told me she did not even want to be in the same room with me (and not for the usual reasons ;)) and told our daughter to stay on the other side of the house. Yes, pretty scary stuff going on out there. She has worked in the hospital for 40 years and has never seen anything like it.[/quote]

Thanks bama. And I know exactly how your wife feels. Just walking in an area where someone coughed could be all it takes. The N95 masks aren’t available to just walk around for protection and surgical masks give a false sense of assurance.

Good luck to your wife staying healthy and you and the rest of the family as well.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=383256]Mrs. North spécialises in infectious diseases and she is petrified. She fears that here in North America we have yet to see the worst. As Beast had pointed out, a similar situation arose here. a few blocks from my house there was a wedding 13 days ago of 600 people from a very prominent member of the MONTREAL Jewish community. And this was but a few hours after we were told by the local government that you could not congregate in large groups. Needless to say there were positive guests in attendance and the virus spread amongst guests and parts of the City have been closed down. At present the QUEBEC Government has ordered all non essential businesses to be closed throughout the Province.
When Mrs. North saw people on the Florida beaches last week she was livid and said those kids are going home where they came from and will spread the virus there.
Please be careful.

Where is SJUfan2 when we need him. ?[/quote]


Absolutely amazing how people think!! I should say don’t think!!! Scary.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=383226]Here is my concern.

I know three people in the NYC/LI area that are exhibiting symptoms of Corona. Right now the policy is not to test anyone even if you have a fever, unless you are a healthcare worker. They say the medical advice will be the same - to self quarantine and seek medical care only if symptoms worsen. These are young people and in very good health, but if they do have Corona, will never be recorded as such.

Is this an attempt by our leaders to quell fears and reduce the number of reported cases? Or is that paranoia and there really are a very limited supply of test kits?[/quote]

I don't think not testing younger people is an attempt to reduce the number of reported cases but to ensure that there are enough test kits for the most at risk over the age of 60 or with certain medical conditions. I think the reason is because over 80 percent of younger people will have mild symptoms and risk for death is close to zero in that population. Hence the number of people who have the virus is likely 10 times the reported number. If there is a positive in that scenario it is that the actual number of people dying is much lower than the percentage being reported. I have 4 family members in Rome, Italy infected and were sent home to recover. The rate of transmission there is very high because of blatant disobeyance of the safe distance directives. That is happening in the New York area daily by people traveling to markets and taking public transportation. It appears to be highly contagious by contact. I just want to share a symptom that my family experience during the virus and that is that they all lost their sense of taste and smell. That lack of medical supplies and equipment is a national disgrace. I think our reliance on China for cheaper goods will change dramatically in the future.
 
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