Syracuse

Interestingly,. Pomeroy, the rating that many of us believe is the gold standard of college rankings, had Syracuse U ranked #4 before the game. With the loss, the algorithms put them in 9th place with two Big East teams in front of them, Villanova at 8 and Creighton at 3 or 4. The BC win doesn't at all hurt us in the ratings and will help measurably if we can get to Villanova this Saturday. We were rated 31 yesterday,
Rankings don't win you anything but this one is a true measure of where you are going.
 
I hope we keep winning and get a 9 seed in the tourney, and cuse is the number 1 seed in our bracket. I swear if we get them again we win.
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I would welcome that second round matchup with open arms.
 
I hope we keep winning and get a 9 seed in the tourney, and cuse is the number 1 seed in our bracket. I swear if we get them again we win.
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I don't think it's likely we'll meet them in the NCAAs unless we both make it to the Final Four....unless Syracuse completely collapses, they are likely going to be the #1 seed in the East Region.....if we make the tourney, SJU cannot be placed in the East Region since MSG is hosting the regional semi-finals and finals.....
 
I hope we keep winning and get a 9 seed in the tourney, and cuse is the number 1 seed in our bracket. I swear if we get them again we win.
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I don't think it's likely we'll meet them in the NCAAs unless we both make it to the Final Four....unless Syracuse completely collapses, they are likely going to be the #1 seed in the East Region.....if we make the tourney, SJU cannot be placed in the East Region since MSG is hosting the regional semi-finals and finals.....
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Correct.
We wouldnt be seeing them since unless they collapse they are ticketed for East region
 
Other then the fact BC won that game it was a totally unentertaining game. Lots of walking the ball up the court and just running the clock down. Our games are much more fun to watch
 
Jim B is stubbornly playing six guys for the most part. With starters playing Max minutes, are they wearing down, 2/3 zone or not? They certainly don't look like a "momentum" team going into home stretch. Duke game will tell me a lot.
 
Jim B is stubbornly playing six guys for the most part. With starters playing Max minutes, are they wearing down, 2/3 zone or not? They certainly don't look like a "momentum" team going into home stretch. Duke game will tell me a lot.
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yes Ennis is not looking like superman lately meanwhile Jordan hardly played the 1st month or so so he should be much fresher
 
we dropped two RPI spots on the Syracuse loss according the Jerry Palm Reader. Seems to me that Cuse was looking past BC to the Duke rematch.
 
we dropped two RPI spots on the Syracuse loss according the Jerry Palm Reader. Seems to me that Cuse was looking past BC to the Duke rematch.
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Or they had just looked at themselves in the mirror and were so distraught at how hideous those uniforms were, they became self abusive and lost.
 
It's a good rivalry to renew. Good for BC sports, which in the ACC plunged in irrelevancy
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Screw BC sports. They began this mess years ago. They have gotten nothing out of the ACC except money.
Surprised at the money grubbing coming from the Jesuits (BC), but alas it's true. My only hope is just as BC has
died in the ACC so may Syracuse.
 
When we make the NCAA tourney this year (come on guys, talk it into existence), I have no doubt that the committee will send us out west.
 
It's a good rivalry to renew. Good for BC sports, which in the ACC plunged in irrelevancy
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Screw BC sports. They began this mess years ago. They have gotten nothing out of the ACC except money.
Surprised at the money grubbing coming from the Jesuits (BC), but alas it's true. My only hope is just as BC has
died in the ACC so may Syracuse.
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I never understand this. Sure, it's unfortunate they left, and we can all be nostalgic. It would have been great to keep the Big East intact.
But what school would have left considerably more money on the table and a chance to join a better academic conference? It's naive to think any school would.
Do you blame your neighbor for taking that promotion and moving to Arizona?
 
It's a good rivalry to renew. Good for BC sports, which in the ACC plunged in irrelevancy
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Screw BC sports. They began this mess years ago. They have gotten nothing out of the ACC except money.
Surprised at the money grubbing coming from the Jesuits (BC), but alas it's true. My only hope is just as BC has
died in the ACC so may Syracuse.
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I never understand this. Sure, it's unfortunate they left, and we can all be nostalgic. It would have been great to keep the Big East intact.
But what school would have left considerably more money on the table and a chance to join a better academic conference? It's naive to think any school would.
Do you blame your neighbor for taking that promotion and moving to Arizona?
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Your analogy is off. BC was a partner not a neighbor. Partners make commitments to each other. Neighbors don't. It is sad that people associate an appreciation and expectation for integrity with naivete.

Aside from that, BC is a majorly screwed up institution that has screwed over pretty much every constituency it is associated with including its own staff and programs. When their hoops program was dragging itself back up and had a great coach who had rebuffed higher paying jobs out of loyalty, they screwed him over and the program in the process.
 
When we make the NCAA tourney this year (come on guys, talk it into existence), I have no doubt that the committee will send us out west.
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If they get sent out west and make the 16 I'll see you all at the Honda Center! Woot!
 
It's a good rivalry to renew. Good for BC sports, which in the ACC plunged in irrelevancy
Click to expand...

Screw BC sports. They began this mess years ago. They have gotten nothing out of the ACC except money.
Surprised at the money grubbing coming from the Jesuits (BC), but alas it's true. My only hope is just as BC has
died in the ACC so may Syracuse.
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I never understand this. Sure, it's unfortunate they left, and we can all be nostalgic. It would have been great to keep the Big East intact.
But what school would have left considerably more money on the table and a chance to join a better academic conference? It's naive to think any school would.
Do you blame your neighbor for taking that promotion and moving to Arizona?
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Point taken, but let's go further. You move into a community in 1979. You are basically a nobody however living in the neighborhood enhances your property greatly to the point that it's worth way more than you ever dreamed. Now you promise solidarity to your neighbors whose enhanced properties have increased the value of yours and they know if you sell (move) their values go down. After you promise, in the middle of the night, you move out;
Do you think you deserve a handshake?
Why do you think Calhoun hated BC. They were assured their continuance. Had they been forthright, and told the conference of their intentions that they would bolt at first good opportunity (for their football) maybe UCONN would not have spent millions of taxpayers money to upgrade football, for a league whose members were cutthroat liers.
Maybe they would have stayed status quo and been a basketball only team in the new Big East. Just sayin.
 
It's a good rivalry to renew. Good for BC sports, which in the ACC plunged in irrelevancy
Click to expand...

Screw BC sports. They began this mess years ago. They have gotten nothing out of the ACC except money.
Surprised at the money grubbing coming from the Jesuits (BC), but alas it's true. My only hope is just as BC has
died in the ACC so may Syracuse.
Click to expand...

I never understand this. Sure, it's unfortunate they left, and we can all be nostalgic. It would have been great to keep the Big East intact.
But what school would have left considerably more money on the table and a chance to join a better academic conference? It's naive to think any school would.
Do you blame your neighbor for taking that promotion and moving to Arizona?
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Ten years ago outside of Duke, UNC and Virginia, the ACC was not the better academic conference. The likes of BC, Syracuse, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Villanova, Marquette, etc. we're as good or better than the remaining ACC schools of that time. BC gained zero academically. Back then it was about football while the latest rape was about basketball. It was ironic that a bottom feeding BC beat the scumbags of Cuse and it was gratifying to see the faces of their fans turn Orange in shock. Mal' Occhio to all the traitors! Btw, Notre Dame is not too far behind becoming the next BC. God bless the good priests at both schools.
 
It's a good rivalry to renew. Good for BC sports, which in the ACC plunged in irrelevancy
Click to expand...

Screw BC sports. They began this mess years ago. They have gotten nothing out of the ACC except money.
Surprised at the money grubbing coming from the Jesuits (BC), but alas it's true. My only hope is just as BC has
died in the ACC so may Syracuse.
Click to expand...

I never understand this. Sure, it's unfortunate they left, and we can all be nostalgic. It would have been great to keep the Big East intact.
But what school would have left considerably more money on the table and a chance to join a better academic conference? It's naive to think any school would.
Do you blame your neighbor for taking that promotion and moving to Arizona?
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Point taken, but let's go further. You move into a community in 1979. You are basically a nobody however living in the neighborhood enhances your property greatly to the point that it's worth way more than you ever dreamed. Now you promise solidarity to your neighbors whose enhanced properties have increased the value of yours and they know if you sell (move) their values go down. After you promise, in the middle of the night, you move out;
Do you think you deserve a handshake?
Why do you think Calhoun hated BC. They were assured their continuance. Had they been forthright, and told the conference of their intentions that they would bolt at first good opportunity (for their football) maybe UCONN would not have spent millions of taxpayers money to upgrade football, for a league whose members were cutthroat liers.
Maybe they would have stayed status quo and been a basketball only team in the new Big East. Just sayin.
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Fair point. What you and Paul have pointed out is they were a business partner more than a neighbor, and I guess that's true. There's a different level of expectations under those circumstances. I agree.
And I don't want to pat them on the back or anything like that. I just think there are some valid reasons for a move like that. Not that it was a "good" decision, but that there were pluses and minuses to be weighed. Arguably, if they brought in 6 or 7mil more from the ACC then they were receiving in the BE, then that's money that either wouldn't have to come from other sources in the University, or b) is money that wouldn't otherwise exist and could be invested in the athletics program. Either way you could argue they were acting in their students best interest no?

Again. I don't mean to suggest it was perfectly OK to bolt like they did without warning or compromise. I just think too often we label those schools traitors, but who are they ultimately responsible to? The other schools in their conference or their students/athletes? There are counter-weights, that's all I'm trying to say.
 
It's a good rivalry to renew. Good for BC sports, which in the ACC plunged in irrelevancy
Click to expand...

Screw BC sports. They began this mess years ago. They have gotten nothing out of the ACC except money.
Surprised at the money grubbing coming from the Jesuits (BC), but alas it's true. My only hope is just as BC has
died in the ACC so may Syracuse.
Click to expand...

I never understand this. Sure, it's unfortunate they left, and we can all be nostalgic. It would have been great to keep the Big East intact.
But what school would have left considerably more money on the table and a chance to join a better academic conference? It's naive to think any school would.
Do you blame your neighbor for taking that promotion and moving to Arizona?
Click to expand...


Point taken, but let's go further. You move into a community in 1979. You are basically a nobody however living in the neighborhood enhances your property greatly to the point that it's worth way more than you ever dreamed. Now you promise solidarity to your neighbors whose enhanced properties have increased the value of yours and they know if you sell (move) their values go down. After you promise, in the middle of the night, you move out;
Do you think you deserve a handshake?
Why do you think Calhoun hated BC. They were assured their continuance. Had they been forthright, and told the conference of their intentions that they would bolt at first good opportunity (for their football) maybe UCONN would not have spent millions of taxpayers money to upgrade football, for a league whose members were cutthroat liers.
Maybe they would have stayed status quo and been a basketball only team in the new Big East. Just sayin.
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Fair point. What you and Paul have pointed out is they were a business partner more than a neighbor, and I guess that's true. There's a different level of expectations under those circumstances. I agree.
And I don't want to pat them on the back or anything like that. I just think there are some valid reasons for a move like that. Not that it was a "good" decision, but that there were pluses and minuses to be weighed. Arguably, if they brought in 6 or 7mil more from the ACC then they were receiving in the BE, then that's money that either wouldn't have to come from other sources in the University, or b) is money that wouldn't otherwise exist and could be invested in the athletics program. Either way you could argue they were acting in their students best interest no?

Again. I don't mean to suggest it was perfectly OK to bolt like they did without warning or compromise. I just think too often we label those schools traitors, but who are they ultimately responsible to? The other schools in their conference or their students/athletes? There are counter-weights, that's all I'm trying to say.
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Is it public knowledge how much schools who have bolted the BE have gotten over the years in football money? That would be really interesting to know.
 
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