Syracuse molestation allegation

 Jemele Hill
BREAKING: Per ESPNews: Syracuse police investigating allegation that Syracuse asst Bernie Fine molested fmr ball boy


Boeheim better hope he didn't know about this.
 
SU is claiming they investigated this matter in 2005. Just the other day The Citadel had to admit there investigate in 2007 was flawed  following an arrest this week.
 
 from 7th grade until he was 27 years old, wow
 

Not to make light of the story or situation, but exactly how does a 20+yr old man get molested?

Wouldn't he be strong enough to at least stop it for a moment and get away? Or if it had happened in the past, as he got older wouldn't he be smart enough to not put himself in a situation where it could potentially happen again?
 
 from 7th grade until he was 27 years old, wow
 

Not to make light of the story or situation, but exactly how does a 20+yr old man get molested?

Wouldn't he be strong enough to at least stop it for a moment and get away? Or if it had happened in the past, as he got older wouldn't he be smart enough to not put himself in a situation where it could potentially happen again?

You have a lot to learn about child molestation. 
 
This is a horrible story . How could the people up there be unaware of the relationship the Fine had with so many young . boys . Personal character for the peo;p;e at this level calls for them to sense that something is amiss . it's time to evaluate these coaches not by their won lost record but on how dealt with the young men that they were responsible for in their programs  . They are educators at instutuions of higher learning !!!!!!!
 
 from 7th grade until he was 27 years old, wow
 

Not to make light of the story or situation, but exactly how does a 20+yr old man get molested?

Wouldn't he be strong enough to at least stop it for a moment and get away? Or if it had happened in the past, as he got older wouldn't he be smart enough to not put himself in a situation where it could potentially happen again?

You have a lot to learn about child molestation. 
 

Then please educate me oh great and wise one!!
 
If you read the story Jim Boheim was aware and often saw the kid lying on Bernie Fine's bed. This story just stinks.  
 
Fine placed on administrative leave by the university. Doubt he will ever be on the sidelines again. If true, there will be others to come forward.
 
 Jemele Hill
BREAKING: Per ESPNews: Syracuse police investigating allegation that Syracuse asst Bernie Fine molested fmr ball boy


READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boeheim better hope he didn't know about this.
 "Boeheim saw me with Bernie all the time in the hotel rooms, on road trips," Davis said. "He'd come in, and see me laying in the bed, kind of glance at me like, 'What are you doing here?' But he wouldn't say that. He'd just scowl. And I would look at him like, I'd be nervous. I felt embarrassed 'cause I felt stupid that I'm there. I'm not supposed to be here. I know it, and Boeheim's not stupid."

Jim Must Go Now!!!!!!!!
 
 If they placed him on leave them IMO, they feel he's guilty of these acts and they are putting him out there where he's belonged for 30 years. I'm tired of thes sick fuks... 
 
I won't comment on the actual allegations, but as a former Cuse student (1 year grad school), and being from LI, I have a hugeee network of Cuse friends. I was at a bar near MSG eating dinner with some friends, 1 an SU grad and I kept seeing SU graphics and Fine on TV but couldn;t hear or really see. My phone was blown up with texts when I checked on the way into MSG and I broke the news to my group of ppl and my cuse friend was just like wow, I guess its PSU all over again. The Cuse people I have spoke to are furious, except the few who legit said no one involved with Cuse bball could do wrong and really think no chance hes guilty. Presumption of innocent in our legal system but some of the allegations are strong. Good night, and Go Johnies. 
 
Not to say the allegationsa aren't true, but when something like this breaks, the university has no choice but to place the accused on leave until they can sort things out. I wouldn't say this is any indication of guilt.

For any parents, beware of any adult who puts himself in a situation to be alone with a kid. Kids should always be taught not to be put in a situation where they are alone with ANY adult - not a teacher, coach, scout leader, or clergy.

I coached CYO and AAU for years. I was taught early on not to even give a kid you knew an innocent ride if he was the only kid in the car. I NEVER touched a kid below his shoulder, and got in the habit of tapping them on their head when they did something good. If I wanted their attention I put a hand on their shoulder, or high fived them after a good play.

It's a sad commentary, but kids should never be alone with an adult who isn't a parent or close relative. Even that leaves open the possibility of a predator relative preying on a kid, and I can honestly say that my kids have never been alone like that with a male relative, even if my guard would be down in that situation.

Based on the story, there seems to be too much detail for this to be fabricated. Victims carry a lot of baggage for a long time, and the PSU story probably gave them the courage to come forward. 
 
Not to say the allegationsa aren't true, but when something like this breaks, the university has no choice but to place the accused on leave until they can sort things out. I wouldn't say this is any indication of guilt.

For any parents, beware of any adult who puts himself in a situation to be alone with a kid. Kids should always be taught not to be put in a situation where they are alone with ANY adult - not a teacher, coach, scout leader, or clergy.

I coached CYO and AAU for years. I was taught early on not to even give a kid you knew an innocent ride if he was the only kid in the car. I NEVER touched a kid below his shoulder, and got in the habit of tapping them on their head when they did something good. If I wanted their attention I put a hand on their shoulder, or high fived them after a good play.

It's a sad commentary, but kids should never be alone with an adult who isn't a parent or close relative. Even that leaves open the possibility of a predator relative preying on a kid, and I can honestly say that my kids have never been alone like that with a male relative, even if my guard would be down in that situation.

Based on the story, there seems to be too much detail for this to be fabricated. Victims carry a lot of baggage for a long time, and the PSU story probably gave them the courage to come forward. 
 

Agree with all but your last paragraph, not that I think you're wrong there but until the facts come out I reserve judgement. There is a preponderance of evidence at PSU, including several eyewitnesses. There are reports out there stating that so far all corroborators given by the Fine accusers have denied knowledge of any abuse. Doesn't mean it's not true but it becomes easy after PSU to rush to judgement.
 
Can we please let the justice system work. If the allegations are proved not to be true these men should go to jail for a long time. 
 
i'll admit i jumped on the "sandusky's guilty" bandwagon after reading the indictment.

there should be a presumption of innocence...

syracuse is obligated to put the assistant on administrative leave. that doesn't mean he's guilty.
 
 If they placed him on leave them IMO, they feel he's guilty of these acts and they are putting him out there where he's belonged for 30 years. . 
 

Under normal circumstances, I'd agree that putting him on leave doesn't look good.

However, coming so closely on the heels of the Penn State fiasco, its entirely plausible that Syracuse is just being overly cautious from a PR stand point.

Boehiem was adamant about this being a lie last night and a scam on the part of the kid. there were no such denials from Penn State a few weeks ago.

I think I'll wait a few days to see what else shakes loose before I decide if this is another Penn State situation or a Duke 'rape" case scenario.
 
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