Syracuse and the Garden

Screw Sarah-Cuse and their notion of being "New York's College Team"
Playing them in MSG benefits them much more than it benefits us IMHO
 
It benefits us a ton actually. Lots of ticket sales, good exposure, and helps get us back to the top. Without premier matchups like Syracuse, we run the risk of irrelevance. The fight for "our" city is what is important here and the more bad blood the better. I hate Syracuse as much as anybody, but everything points to this matchup being very, very good for our scheduling efforts yearly. High profile games like this also allow Lavin to maintain his recruiting edge.
 
You guys that dont wanna play the top teams kill me. MCN has it right, the more hate the better. Or we could go back to playing Niagara every year since they're Vincentian and we "love" them.
 
It benefits us a ton actually. Lots of ticket sales, good exposure, and helps get us back to the top. Without premier matchups like Syracuse, we run the risk of irrelevance. The fight for "our" city is what is important here and the more bad blood the better. I hate Syracuse as much as anybody, but everything points to this matchup being very, very good for our scheduling efforts yearly. High profile games like this also allow Lavin to maintain his recruiting edge.
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There are tons "premier matchups" available for the Garden. Teams like unc, msu, ucla, ku, duke etc. are already making treks to play in preseason tourneys at msg. They love the exposure of playing in NYC. Screw cuse and their obnoxious fans, the garden will have no problem putting 12k in the seats, that's who were there last week to watch Temple, for unc, duke, kansas etc.
 
You guys that dont wanna play the top teams kill me. MCN has it right, the more hate the better. Or we could go back to playing Niagara every year since they're Vincentian and we "love" them.
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There are plenty of other big fish for us to fry. You likin' the idea at cuse calls themselves "NY's team"? The garden's going to bring them in anyway like they did for Temple, do we really need to give 'em even more exposure?
 
This is one of those "damned if we do damned if we don't" situations. I am sure all of us here would love to stick it to Syracuse any way we can, especially by keeping them out of Garden. But the fact is that they will find someone else or some other tournament type of game to still play there (MSG knows they will pack the house so they won't ever shut them out completely). On the other hand, if the game is going to be a sold out national tv type game (remember what we did to Duke 2 years ago) why not have us benefit it from it as well. I think most people here don't want what happened the last few years, where they totally outnumbered us at the Garden & blow us out on top of that.
 
This is one of those "damned if we do damned if we don't" situations. I am sure all of us here would love to stick it to Syracuse any way we can, especially by keeping them out of Garden. But the fact is that they will find someone else or some other tournament type of game to still play there (MSG knows they will pack the house so they won't ever shut them out completely). On the other hand, if the game is going to be a sold out national tv type game (remember what we did to Duke 2 years ago) why not have us benefit it from it as well. I think most people here don't want what happened the last few years, where they totally outnumbered us at the Garden & blow us out on top of that.
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They had under 12k for Temple, not exactly packing the house. They're gonna come here every year, why let them come twice to cement their notion of being NY's college team?
 
It benefits us a ton actually. Lots of ticket sales, good exposure, and helps get us back to the top. Without premier matchups like Syracuse, we run the risk of irrelevance. The fight for "our" city is what is important here and the more bad blood the better. I hate Syracuse as much as anybody, but everything points to this matchup being very, very good for our scheduling efforts yearly. High profile games like this also allow Lavin to maintain his recruiting edge.
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There are tons "premier matchups" available for the Garden. Teams like unc, msu, ucla, ku, duke etc. are already making treks to play in preseason tourneys at msg. They love the exposure of playing in NYC. Screw cuse and their obnoxious fans, the garden will have no problem putting 12k in the seats, that's who were there last week to watch Temple, for unc, duke, kansas etc.
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Best argument thus far because it satisfies our passion for revenge and provides alternatives that are equally beneficial.


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This is one of those "damned if we do damned if we don't" situations. I am sure all of us here would love to stick it to Syracuse any way we can, especially by keeping them out of Garden. But the fact is that they will find someone else or some other tournament type of game to still play there (MSG knows they will pack the house so they won't ever shut them out completely). On the other hand, if the game is going to be a sold out national tv type game (remember what we did to Duke 2 years ago) why not have us benefit it from it as well. I think most people here don't want what happened the last few years, where they totally outnumbered us at the Garden & blow us out on top of that.
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They had under 12k for Temple, not exactly packing the house. They're gonna come here every year, why let them come twice to cement their notion of being NY's college team?
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True but the game was also 3 days before Christmas on the travel weekend.
 
Im fine with playing Syracuse, just not at MSG. If they wanted to play at MSG, they should have stayed. They can't be NY's #1 team. without playing at New York's #1 stage and arena.

There's plenty of other teams that I am sure would love to play against us at the Garden. I don't see why we would be desperate enough to do this.
 
You guys that dont wanna play the top teams kill me. MCN has it right, the more hate the better. Or we could go back to playing Niagara every year since they're Vincentian and we "love" them.
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There are plenty of other big fish for us to fry. You likin' the idea at cuse calls themselves "NY's team"? The garden's going to bring them in anyway like they did for Temple, do we really need to give 'em even more exposure?
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None of us likes the "NY's team" line, but if we avoid playing them, we're only bolstering their claim. Play them and beat them regularly on our home floor and no one will doubt who truly is NY's team. Playing them also generates excitement and gets the media attention that we (not Syracuse) will be needing -- and the new conference will be needing -- to stay relevant at the national level.
 
You guys that dont wanna play the top teams kill me. MCN has it right, the more hate the better. Or we could go back to playing Niagara every year since they're Vincentian and we "love" them.
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There are plenty of other big fish for us to fry. You likin' the idea at cuse calls themselves "NY's team"? The garden's going to bring them in anyway like they did for Temple, do we really need to give 'em even more exposure?
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None of us likes the "NY's team" line, but if we avoid playing them, we're only bolstering their claim. Play them and beat them regularly on our home floor and no one will doubt who truly is NY's team. Playing them also generates excitement and gets the media attention that we (not Syracuse) will be needing -- and the new conference will be needing -- to stay relevant at the national level.
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Playing north carolina, duke, kentucky, kansas, ucla, mich st and a host of other prominent teams will generate plenty of excitement. Those guys will be licking their chops for a chance to come to msg.

What's next? Sucking up to yukon so they can come to msg every year after we leave the BE?
 
Im fine with playing Syracuse, just not at MSG. If they wanted to play at MSG, they should have stayed. They can't be NY's #1 team. without playing at New York's #1 stage and arena.

There's plenty of other teams that I am sure would love to play against us at the Garden. I don't see why we would be desperate enough to do this.
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I'm all over playing cuse every year at CA.
 
I say play them every year at the garden, call it a nuetral site. Still a nice rivalry and will sell out the garden,help our RPI. And who knows maybe we will start winning some of these games.
 
I say play them every year at the garden, call it a nuetral site. Still a nice rivalry and will sell out the garden,help our RPI. And who knows maybe we will start winning some of these games.
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With the exception of tournament games, Madison Square Garden should never be called a neutral site when we play there. It's our home court ... especially when we play Syracuse.
 
It benefits us a ton actually. Lots of ticket sales, good exposure, and helps get us back to the top. Without premier matchups like Syracuse, we run the risk of irrelevance. The fight for "our" city is what is important here and the more bad blood the better. I hate Syracuse as much as anybody, but everything points to this matchup being very, very good for our scheduling efforts yearly. High profile games like this also allow Lavin to maintain his recruiting edge.
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I wholeheartedly agree that playing "high profile" games against "premier" teams is beneficial to us
However, I don't want to play 'Cuse at MSG with 15,000 fans wearing orange proclaiming to be NY's college team
There are lots of other great intersectional "high profile" matchups we can arrange
I would love to see us rotating 2 year home & home deals with several "BCS" type schools nationwide
Kinda like the schedule we used to play before the Big East came into being
 
This is one of those "damned if we do damned if we don't" situations. I am sure all of us here would love to stick it to Syracuse any way we can, especially by keeping them out of Garden. But the fact is that they will find someone else or some other tournament type of game to still play there (MSG knows they will pack the house so they won't ever shut them out completely). On the other hand, if the game is going to be a sold out national tv type game (remember what we did to Duke 2 years ago) why not have us benefit it from it as well. I think most people here don't want what happened the last few years, where they totally outnumbered us at the Garden & blow us out on top of that.
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They had under 12k for Temple, not exactly packing the house. They're gonna come here every year, why let them come twice to cement their notion of being NY's college team?
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True but the game was also 3 days before Christmas on the travel weekend.
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Syracuse can never and will never truly be NYC's team. Just because you have a lot of alumni from the NYC area does not make it so. It's located closer to CANADA than NYC first of all. No matter how much they win, geography does not change. There are tons of LI alumni at Villanova. Does that make it Long Island's team? No. Is it the NYC area? No. No doubt Cuse was and is lightyears ahead of us, but NYC's team they are not. It's the equivalent of saying Geneseo is a NYC school which is of course absurd.
 
It benefits us a ton actually. Lots of ticket sales, good exposure, and helps get us back to the top. Without premier matchups like Syracuse, we run the risk of irrelevance. The fight for "our" city is what is important here and the more bad blood the better. I hate Syracuse as much as anybody, but everything points to this matchup being very, very good for our scheduling efforts yearly. High profile games like this also allow Lavin to maintain his recruiting edge.
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I wholeheartedly agree that playing "high profile" games against "premier" teams is beneficial to us
However, I don't want to play 'Cuse at MSG with 15,000 fans wearing orange proclaiming to be NY's college team
There are lots of other great intersectional "high profile" matchups we can arrange
I would love to see us rotating 2 year home & home deals with several "BCS" type schools nationwide
Kinda like the schedule we used to play before the Big East came into being
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IMO it would be better to call it a nuetral game. Get more credit for winning on a nuetral site for NCAA tourny purposes then a home game. It would be better having yearly MSG games ,than having home and away series. MSG would have at least 50% Syracuse fans but the carrier dome is all Syracuse fans and that would be harder for us.
 
It benefits us a ton actually. Lots of ticket sales, good exposure, and helps get us back to the top. Without premier matchups like Syracuse, we run the risk of irrelevance. The fight for "our" city is what is important here and the more bad blood the better. I hate Syracuse as much as anybody, but everything points to this matchup being very, very good for our scheduling efforts yearly. High profile games like this also allow Lavin to maintain his recruiting edge.
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I wholeheartedly agree that playing "high profile" games against "premier" teams is beneficial to us
However, I don't want to play 'Cuse at MSG with 15,000 fans wearing orange proclaiming to be NY's college team
There are lots of other great intersectional "high profile" matchups we can arrange
I would love to see us rotating 2 year home & home deals with several "BCS" type schools nationwide
Kinda like the schedule we used to play before the Big East came into being
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IMO it would be better to call it a nuetral game. Get more credit for winning on a nuetral site for NCAA tourny purposes then a home game. It would be better having yearly MSG games ,than having home and away series. MSG would have at least 50% Syracuse fans but the carrier dome is all Syracuse fans and that would be harder for us.
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Having it as a neutral court game would be useless because then we would not collect the ticket revenue, which appears to be one of the major reasons for us playing them in the first place.
 
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