Steve Lavin, Suits, Ties, and Dressing the Part

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1and1sju

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** If this topic annoys you - don't read any further**

Did you think you heard the last of my complaints about our former coach's fashion choices?

You would be wrong.
Bear with me, but we've commented so many times about Lavin's clothes and even now Mullin's choices in Maui, that I think this information is very relevant.

I feel a bit vindicated today. I recently read about a study that shows just how powerful the effects of what you wear can be on not only how others perceive you, but also on your own job performance. (there's a point to this Post I promise.. keep reading.)

This study took a group of medical students and divided them into two groups. One group was given white, doctor coats, the other group was not. They were asked to do the same tasks. The group that "dressed like a doctor" performed half as many errors as the other group which wore regular clothes.

The study was picked up by a columnist for the NY Times today, who remarked:
"One other reason for dressing the part: When we’re getting ready to perform a task, a good deal of the work starts with putting ourselves in the right place mentally. For instance, when I dress up to give a talk, it reminds me that I’m there to perform an important function. People have paid money to see me in person, and I need to “show up,” both physically and mentally, to show respect. Dressing nicely matches their expectations and it makes me feel good. Both things help me perform better as a speaker."

That sounds familiar. A number of us (myself, Fun, and others) pointed out that wearing a track suit to Big East media day last year was an indication Lavin had "checked out", and was half-assing his job. It seems that 1) there is some research that suggests dressing the part is more than just semantics and 2) our new coach is doing everything possible to do his job right, even down to the clip on his tie.

Obviously this isn't ground breaking news - but an interesting topic we've touched on before.

Enclothed Cognition: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103112000200

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/your-money/dress-the-part-and-its-easier-to-walk-the-walk.html
 
Desco, I get what you're saying and what the research shows. But you really need to let this go. It's not healthy! You need "Steve Lavin Rehab!" :lol:
 
** If this topic annoys you - don't read any further**

Did you think you heard the last of my complaints about our former coach's fashion choices?

You would be wrong.
Bear with me, but we've commented so many times about Lavin's clothes and even now Mullin's choices in Maui, that I think this information is very relevant.

I feel a bit vindicated today. I recently read about a study that shows just how powerful the effects of what you wear can be on not only how others perceive you, but also on your own job performance. (there's a point to this Post I promise.. keep reading.)

This study took a group of medical students and divided them into two groups. One group was given white, doctor coats, the other group was not. They were asked to do the same tasks. The group that "dressed like a doctor" performed half as many errors as the other group which wore regular clothes.

The study was picked up by a columnist for the NY Times today, who remarked:
"One other reason for dressing the part: When we’re getting ready to perform a task, a good deal of the work starts with putting ourselves in the right place mentally. For instance, when I dress up to give a talk, it reminds me that I’m there to perform an important function. People have paid money to see me in person, and I need to “show up,” both physically and mentally, to show respect. Dressing nicely matches their expectations and it makes me feel good. Both things help me perform better as a speaker."

That sounds familiar. A number of us (myself, Fun, and others) pointed out that wearing a track suit to Big East media day last year was an indication Lavin had "checked out", and was half-assing his job. It seems that 1) there is some research that suggests dressing the part is more than just semantics and 2) our new coach is doing everything possible to do his job right, even down to the clip on his tie.

Obviously this isn't ground breaking news - but an interesting topic we've touched on before.

Enclothed Cognition: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103112000200

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/your-money/dress-the-part-and-its-easier-to-walk-the-walk.html
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I'm with you on the track suit to media day. In hindsight I don't know if it meant he had mailed it in but I do think it meant subliminally maybe he cared a little less.

On the sidelines while I thought that whole sweatsuit top thing just looked bad. I didn't care too much though as there are plenty of horrible dressers on the sidelines in many sports so I don't think that really has to do with his coaching.

That being said I'm a huge believer that in the work place depending on what your job is you better dress well. In 23 years in my office every time they have one of those donate money and you can wear jeans for a day not once have I ever wore jeans. Even in snowstorms when no way any client is coming to the office. I freaking hate those days

Heck I only started wearing dress shirts without ties only a couple of years ago in the office and even then it's usually only on a friday

But I literally do just as much work at home remotely in sweatpants as I do in the office in a suit. Only difference is I have meetings in the office so I need to dress differently

BTW Mullin isnt far behind Lavin in the dressing department. You gotta be fair and admit that. Mullin not wearing tie today btw.

And I don't have a problem with the way Mullin dresses either but fair is fair
 
So what does drinking Perrier say. That he is one of the wealthiest coaches in the NCAA and he doesn't need the job?
 
So what does drinking Perrier say. That he is one of the wealthiest coaches in the NCAA and he doesn't need the job?
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Means he must be on the outs with Repole :)
 
I'm not sure that wearing a suit and tie means much when you are coaching young men in shorts and sleeveless shirts, but I do like coaches who dress well.

Jay Wright acts and looks classy, and has sponsorships for his courtside attire. It's dressing for success.

Looie and Rollie both wore suits, but 10 minutes into a game they were both a mess.

Lavin looks sharp in a suit, and ridiculous in a sweat suit.

the coaches vs. cancer attire of sneakers and suits looks ridiculous.

At the end of the day I'm not sure coaching young men in shorts and sleeveless uniform shirts requires a tux. Maybe baseball managers should go back to wearing suits also.
 
I'm not sure that wearing a suit and tie means much when you are coaching young men in shorts and sleeveless shirts, but I do like coaches who dress well.

Jay Wright acts and looks classy, and has sponsorships for his courtside attire. It's dressing for success.

Looie and Rollie both wore suits, but 10 minutes into a game they were both a mess.

Lavin looks sharp in a suit, and ridiculous in a sweat suit.

the coaches vs. cancer attire of sneakers and suits looks ridiculous.

At the end of the day I'm not sure coaching young men in shorts and sleeveless uniform shirts requires a tux. Maybe baseball managers should go back to wearing suits also.
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Jay Wright used to wear Armani suits when he coached at Hofstra. Best dressed coach in that league. I don't even think the other coaches could afford Armani suits. If memory serves me correct Brey might have had that dumb mock turtleneck back then but I'm not 100% sure on that

I think I'd rather have baseball mgrs in suits. They look ridiculous in the uniforms :)
 
Maybe Mullin should wear a jersey and shorts.
:silly:
 
I'm not sure that wearing a suit and tie means much when you are coaching young men in shorts and sleeveless shirts, but I do like coaches who dress well.

Jay Wright acts and looks classy, and has sponsorships for his courtside attire. It's dressing for success.

Looie and Rollie both wore suits, but 10 minutes into a game they were both a mess.

Lavin looks sharp in a suit, and ridiculous in a sweat suit.

the coaches vs. cancer attire of sneakers and suits looks ridiculous.

At the end of the day I'm not sure coaching young men in shorts and sleeveless uniform shirts requires a tux. Maybe baseball managers should go back to wearing suits also.
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Jay Wright used to wear Armani suits when he coached at Hofstra. Best dressed coach in that league. I don't even think the other coaches could afford Armani suits. If memory serves me correct Brey might have had that dumb mock turtleneck back then but I'm not 100% sure on that

I think I'd rather have baseball mgrs in suits. They look ridiculous in the uniforms :)
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And I'd rather see football coaches in uniforms, pads and helmets.
 
Some people can dress certain ways and it fits depending on their personality. You always felt Lavin was a suit guy because he was hollywood. His choice to continue to dress further down as the years went on felt like more of a sign of how he felt about the job, rather than his personality.

Bob Huggins can wear a sweat suit because you can tell that's fully his personality and it's always been his personality.

Mullin I'll reserve judgement on for the time being except to say that the man's personality seems like he has an itch to be in the gym always and still has a players personality. In some of the videos and photos from Taffner you see him in flip flops and basketball socks, which is a popular look for basketball players around the locker room after practice or in between AAU games, so I think that is more of his personality.
 
I guess Bob Knight would have won 2000 games if only he wore a nice suit rather than an old sweater, polo shirt or sweat shirt.
 
Just me, but I can honestly say that unless it was something totally ridiculous I have never given one seconds thought to what another man was wearing. Not that there is anything wrong with this continued subject......just saying.
 
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