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[quote="sirvoo" post=289206][quote="Valgoth" post=289139]So the years of therapy and good behavior at his high school gig and AAU means absolutely nothing? There is no redemption of people? Ok[/quote]

Are you his therapist? I wouldn’t put much stake in a guy running an AAU program for a few years without a hitch. People can be redeemed but people can also be in opposition to their beloved team hiring a coach who is an abusive and discriminatory child.[/quote]

If the parents of the players on his AAU team trust him with theirs kids then I have no problem with him coming on board. There is really no sense trying to plead the case for him to the few who are dead set against him. Sign me up for him and if Coach Knight wanted to come on board 10 years ago he would be welcome too.
 
How many college basketball programs fan sites are discussing the need for an "assistant coach" to move their program forward in the 4th year of an incumbent's coach's tenure where that coach is being paid $2 million and an invisible associate head coach close to 600K?
It's not about money but accountability. In that broken chain of accountability is yet another vacancy for an athletic director.
Sometimes I think St. John's board of trustees should just bring in McKinsey & Company to reorganize the whole mess.
 
Very surprising to see the level of support for a move like this. The program finally gets a bit of momentum towards the end of spring (AD leaving aside) and decides to let it come to a screeching halt with this potential move?

Just seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot and taking away the shine from a few good weeks of positive news. You can say it’s necessary to bring in someone with this kind of experience but does that guy have to be Mike Rice?

There are plenty of coaches out there who are just as qualified and willing to take the position, but there salary is likely $100,000 more a year because they aren’t considered a homophobic/abusive/petulant lunatic by anyone who saw that video years ago and wrote him off.
 
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Sirvoo wrote: Very surprising to see the level of support for a move like this. The program finally gets a bit of momentum towards the end of spring (AD leaving aside) and decides to let it come to a screeching halt with this potential move?

Just seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot and taking away the shine from a few good weeks of positive news. You can say it’s necessary to bring in someone with this kind of experience but does that guy have to be Mike Rice?

There are plenty of coaches out there who are just as qualified and willing to take the position, but there salary is likely $100,000 more a year because they aren’t considered a homophobic/abusive/petulant lunatic by anyone who saw that video years ago and wrote him off.

I must admit I am not as bullish as others on this site on the Rice hire as I am not sure that time and/or therapy changes the tendencies exhibited on the above referenced video. Having said that, everyone is entitled to a second chance and I would hope that the SJU staff/program will have thoroughly vetted any hire before it pulls the trigger. Maybe that is why it seems to be moving at a glacial pace or maybe it is just the AAU timing (hopefully a combination of both).
 
I default back to the mistakes I've made in my life...at all ages!
I made amends and retooled.
Yeah, okay, Mike Rice was out of control in his Rutgers years.
Two points: He sure the hell paid for that behavior.
And he has made amends and been a good soldier since.
Currently, Mike brings great assets to the table and would complete our Staff as a much-needed full-time AC.
Meanwhile his AAU players seem to luv the guy, at least one crediting him for raising his game (Scottie)--and I can only guess, their parents fully support the guy shepherding their kids.
I, for one, am rooting hard Chris pulls the trigger and hires him.
 
[quote="sirvoo" post=289215]Very surprising to see the level of support for a move like this. The program finally gets a bit of momentum towards the end of spring (AD leaving aside) and decides to let it come to a screeching halt with this potential move?

Just seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot and taking away the shine from a few good weeks of positive news. You can say it’s necessary to bring in someone with this kind of experience but does that guy have to be Mike Rice?

There are plenty of coaches out there who are just as qualified and willing to take the position, but there salary is likely $100,000 more a year because they aren’t considered a homophobic/abusive/petulant lunatic by anyone who saw that video years ago and wrote him off.[/quote]

Mike Rice would be a strategic hire to fill a huge void in this staff's composition. Mitch Richmond was "promoted" from within because of the Slice conundrum but can't do the job. The entire staff is composed of carpet baggers from the west coast, except for Matt, who treat their jobs as part time temporary gigs.
Mike Rice would actually be a stabilizing influence in that scenario.
If he could bring in a recruit or two would be a bonus.
 
I also think the Mike Rice hire would be a good one because he is highly motivated. I’m sure he wants to get back to being a HC of a D1 program and he’s gotta go up the ladder at this point in his career.
 
[quote="SJU85" post=289170][quote="Paultzman" post=289096]Tea leaves;

Mitch absence may be an indication of his willingness to move back to the Special Assistant spot or he opts to move on. It will be interesting to see what staff is out there during July open period. I would be surprised if Mitch is one.

Rice may be only candidate for a AC position. I still believe even if he comes, it will be after he completes his AAU gig in July.

Lastly, my tea leaves may suck. :)[/quote]

If the Rice to St. John's as an Assistant Coach actually happens, Rice not wanting to leave prior to the completion of the July AAU competitions is as plausible a reason for the delay in it getting done as any. I can understand his not wanting to leave the kids high and dry before this really important evaluation period.[/quote]

It's also a great recruiting tool each time his team wins. Kids want to play for winners. If both parties involved know it's happening, there's no reason to rush it. If Team Rio has an online schedule, check the dates for its last big tournament. It'll happen shortly after that.
 
[quote="SJU14" post=289220]I also think the Mike Rice hire would be a good one because he is highly motivated. I’m sure he wants to get back to being a HC of a D1 program and he’s gotta go up the ladder at this point in his career.[/quote]
I agree SJU14
What better motivation than when a person wakes up, seeks to make amends and redeem him/herself and get back to the top. If Mr. Rice comes I sense he will become a major positive force for our program.
Good for him. Good for us. The proverbial win-win situation.
Thanks for your viewpoint.
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ifeaRgWFcfttUs8mCC7RJ_rx0YSkcchodqjcCuMp0ys/edit

July 7-8 Practice Weekend
July 10-14 UAA III, Atlanta, GA (NCAA Live) (ALL TEAMS)
July 18-20 Hoop Group Elite II, (NCAA Live) Albright College (ALL PLAYERS)
July 21-22, West Coast Elite 100, (NCAA Live) Los Angeles, California
July 25-29, Fab 48 16/17U, Las Vegas, Nevada (TEAM TBA)
July 25-27, Live in AC, 16/17U, Atlantic City (TEAM TBA)
July 25-29, 17U Rice UAA Championships, Las Vegas, Nevada
 
[quote="capmaker" post=289239]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ifeaRgWFcfttUs8mCC7RJ_rx0YSkcchodqjcCuMp0ys/edit

July 7-8 Practice Weekend
July 10-14 UAA III, Atlanta, GA (NCAA Live) (ALL TEAMS)
July 18-20 Hoop Group Elite II, (NCAA Live) Albright College (ALL PLAYERS)
July 21-22, West Coast Elite 100, (NCAA Live) Los Angeles, California
July 25-29, Fab 48 16/17U, Las Vegas, Nevada (TEAM TBA)
July 25-27, Live in AC, 16/17U, Atlantic City (TEAM TBA)
July 25-29, 17U Rice UAA Championships, Las Vegas, Nevada[/quote]

I’m clueless about the AAU ‘process’. This weekend they have a ‘boot camp’ regimen, and next weekend are, as you note carmaker, are practices.
But these aren’t 1-and-done events like most tournaments?
Looks like players are involved in evaluations through the month of July in ‘tryouts’ Then play in different events, and those that make the final team play in the Championahip brackets?
All looks confusing to a guy ignorant of the whole process!
Funny.
Hoping Mike Rice and our top targets go all the way!
Let’s go Johnnies!
 
Dear Chicago Days
Having a son who is involved in the AAU circuit I can say that typically a team is guaranteed a minimum of 3 games in a tournament. I hope that clarifies matters for you.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=289219][quote="sirvoo" post=289215]Very surprising to see the level of support for a move like this. The program finally gets a bit of momentum towards the end of spring (AD leaving aside) and decides to let it come to a screeching halt with this potential move?

Just seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot and taking away the shine from a few good weeks of positive news. You can say it’s necessary to bring in someone with this kind of experience but does that guy have to be Mike Rice?

There are plenty of coaches out there who are just as qualified and willing to take the position, but there salary is likely $100,000 more a year because they aren’t considered a homophobic/abusive/petulant lunatic by anyone who saw that video years ago and wrote him off.[/quote]

Mike Rice would be a strategic hire to fill a huge void in this staff's composition. Mitch Richmond was "promoted" from within because of the Slice conundrum but can't do the job. The entire staff is composed of carpet baggers from the west coast, except for Matt, who treat their jobs as part time temporary gigs.
Mike Rice would actually be a stabilizing influence in that scenario.
If he could bring in a recruit or two would be a bonus.[/quote]

Easy decision.
Mullin either hires Rice to salvage this recruiting season, or he stays with the current staff and finishes at the bottom of the conference in 2019/20.
 
[quote="Tom in Salem" post=289274][quote="Class of 72" post=289219][quote="sirvoo" post=289215]Very surprising to see the level of support for a move like this. The program finally gets a bit of momentum towards the end of spring (AD leaving aside) and decides to let it come to a screeching halt with this potential move?

Just seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot and taking away the shine from a few good weeks of positive news. You can say it’s necessary to bring in someone with this kind of experience but does that guy have to be Mike Rice?

There are plenty of coaches out there who are just as qualified and willing to take the position, but there salary is likely $100,000 more a year because they aren’t considered a homophobic/abusive/petulant lunatic by anyone who saw that video years ago and wrote him off.[/quote]

Mike Rice would be a strategic hire to fill a huge void in this staff's composition. Mitch Richmond was "promoted" from within because of the Slice conundrum but can't do the job. The entire staff is composed of carpet baggers from the west coast, except for Matt, who treat their jobs as part time temporary gigs.
Mike Rice would actually be a stabilizing influence in that scenario.
If he could bring in a recruit or two would be a bonus.[/quote]

Easy decision.
Mullin either hires Rice to salvage this recruiting season, or he stays with the current staff and finishes at the bottom of the conference in 2019/20.[/quote]


I'm a Mullin fan, but if that were to happen, he should be escorted out of the building
And forced to turn in his key to the gym
 
[quote="Tom in Salem" post=289274][quote="Class of 72" post=289219][quote="sirvoo" post=289215]Very surprising to see the level of support for a move like this. The program finally gets a bit of momentum towards the end of spring (AD leaving aside) and decides to let it come to a screeching halt with this potential move?

Just seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot and taking away the shine from a few good weeks of positive news. You can say it’s necessary to bring in someone with this kind of experience but does that guy have to be Mike Rice?

There are plenty of coaches out there who are just as qualified and willing to take the position, but there salary is likely $100,000 more a year because they aren’t considered a homophobic/abusive/petulant lunatic by anyone who saw that video years ago and wrote him off.[/quote]

Mike Rice would be a strategic hire to fill a huge void in this staff's composition. Mitch Richmond was "promoted" from within because of the Slice conundrum but can't do the job. The entire staff is composed of carpet baggers from the west coast, except for Matt, who treat their jobs as part time temporary gigs.
Mike Rice would actually be a stabilizing influence in that scenario.
If he could bring in a recruit or two would be a bonus.[/quote]

Easy decision.
Mullin either hires Rice to salvage this recruiting season, or he stays with the current staff and finishes at the bottom of the conference in 2019/20.[/quote]

“Salvage”. It’s june
 
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Tom in Salem wrote:
Class of 72 wrote:
sirvoo wrote: Very surprising to see the level of support for a move like this. The program finally gets a bit of momentum towards the end of spring (AD leaving aside) and decides to let it come to a screeching halt with this potential move?

Just seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot and taking away the shine from a few good weeks of positive news. You can say it’s necessary to bring in someone with this kind of experience but does that guy have to be Mike Rice?

There are plenty of coaches out there who are just as qualified and willing to take the position, but there salary is likely $100,000 more a year because they aren’t considered a homophobic/abusive/petulant lunatic by anyone who saw that video years ago and wrote him off.

Mike Rice would be a strategic hire to fill a huge void in this staff's composition. Mitch Richmond was "promoted" from within because of the Slice conundrum but can't do the job. The entire staff is composed of carpet baggers from the west coast, except for Matt, who treat their jobs as part time temporary gigs.
Mike Rice would actually be a stabilizing influence in that scenario.
If he could bring in a recruit or two would be a bonus.


Easy decision.
Mullin either hires Rice to salvage this recruiting season, or he stays with the current staff and finishes at the bottom of the conference in 2019/20.


“Salvage”. It’s june

Exactly. There is ample time to "salvage" the 2019 recruiting season. Look at what the rush to hire Slice bought us. Again, I am fine with hiring Rice so long as the school has done its proper diligence which they would be foolish not to take their time on, given the circumstances. Maybe that has already been completed and they are just waiting on AAU stuff to be over. Patience is key here.
 
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[quote="redmannorth" post=289272]Dear Chicago Days
Having a son who is involved in the AAU circuit I can say that typically a team is guaranteed a minimum of 3 games in a tournament. I hope that clarifies matters for you.[/quote]

Thank you RMN. Thant helps mightily.
So, let’s hope Team Rio, with ‘our guys’ meets your son’s team in a championship game, somewhere along the way...!
Does your son play guard or a wing?
 
PG , they are not scheduled to play as they are not in the same tournaments. My son also plays for an Adidas sponsored team. So when they do go out of town a few times during the spring summer AAU period it is to Adidas sponsored tournaments. Our next tournament is Springfield , Mass July 12-14. Team Rio is not scheduled to be there.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=289294]PG , they are not scheduled to play as they are not in the same tournaments. My son also plays for an Adidas sponsored team. So when they do go out of town a few times during the spring summer AAU period it is to Adidas sponsored tournaments. Our next tournament is Springfield , Mass July 12-14. Team Rio is not scheduled to be there.[/quote]

Well good luck!
 
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