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If this is a business then look for investors, if it's a charity then look for donations. Pretty simple if you ask me. Now, can any of you guys who claim to be so enlightened tell those of us who are clearly less enlightened which one it is? I'll bet no one can. I see it as a business. So does the government. And I'm not in to investing in anyone's else's business. Certainly not a business that I don't understand.
 
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logen said:
Let’s leave it at “Everybody can do what they want to do”, because if you don’t care about transparency, I do. I see no reason why someone who insists they are honest, would have a problem being open and transparent. But that’s just me. I work hard for my money and am very generous but if anyone wants a donation and then plays the “trust me” card, I’m gone.
And again, I am not directing my comments in the least towards Storm Marketing, I know little to nothing about them and unless shown otherwise I will assume they are completely honest. I got into the conversation because of posts like the one above, poo pooing people who care about transparency when donating. Why would I give a rats behind what UK or UCLA or Uconn fans do. On the one hand posters here consistently mock and ridicule their fans but now want to try to convince others it is important to emulate them financially?
I am a basketball lifer, a junkie since I was about 12 but personally, I don’t agree with paying college athletes; I don’t agree with the idea that a college scholarship is not payment, I don’t think that because NCAA and college administrators, college coaches, shoe companies, etc. completely corrupted college athletics to their own personal financial gains, that the solution to making that right is to make college players professionals and then figuring out a methodology to have fans foot that bill. IMO, NIL is just the latest corrupt branch on the tree planted by the greedy hypocrites listed above; and the biggest irony is it is almost the perfect con, instead of those SOBs having to give up some of their share of the pie, they kept every rotten cent gained in their slimy pockets and pushed the players “salaries“ down to the fans.
One final question for those who think donations from the “little guys” will either make a financial difference or more to the point, make big fund raising easier? How did the Kentucky’s, the Duke’s, the Kansas’s, the UConn’s, etc. able to get the “under the table” monies they thrived on for so long without the grassroots, nickel and dime donations? The answer is simple, big money is not affected one iota by little money, not one iota.
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Right there with ya.
 
MCNPA said:
All this over donating a few bucks to SJU’s NIL when peeps here probably spent more on lobster rolls in an afternoon. 🤣.
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Yeah, nothing to go to but downplaying and laughing about a subject that was so vital just one post ago! I have spoken to you privately and publicly and never once laughed at you, I merely disagreed with your position, trying to state why.
You can’t hold up your end of the discussion any other way apparently, so my last word to you………..checkmate!!
 
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MCNPA said:
All this over donating a few bucks to SJU’s NIL when peeps here probably spent more on lobster rolls in an afternoon. 🤣.
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I totally get that this is a fairly controversial topic. Most of us don’t have bottomless wallets and lots of other things that might take priority when it comes to donations: our kids, this site, colleges our kids went to, our church, various political causes all of which might take priority over our favorite college basketball team. Im not there with NIL yet, maybe at some point when I understand it better I will be.
 
logen said:
Yeah, nothing to go to but downplaying and laughing about a subject that was so vital just one post ago! I have spoken to you privately and publicly and never once laughed at you, I merely disagreed with your position, trying to state why.
You can’t hold up your end of the discussion any other way apparently, so my last word to you………..checkmate!!
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So I take it you’re not going to donate to SJU??? Fwiw, I thought the last time you said it was your last word. Btw, I never addressed you at all. I’m merely speaking on the topic and MY opinion and it has zero to do with you.
 
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NCJohnnie said:
I totally get that this is a fairly controversial topic. Most of us don’t have bottomless wallets and lots of other things that might take priority when it comes to donations: our kids, this site, colleges our kids went to, our church, various political causes all of which might take priority over our favorite college basketball team. Im not there with NIL yet, maybe at some point when I understand it better I will be.
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Trust me, I don’t have a bottomless wallet. I’m not an executive of any sort. My kids haven’t even gone to college yet but are close and I don’t know how I will pay with the way tuition is these days. I won’t belabor the point any more. Do what you can. It helps. Period.
 
NCJohnnie said:
I totally get that this is a fairly controversial topic. Most of us don’t have bottomless wallets and lots of other things that might take priority when it comes to donations: our kids, this site, colleges our kids went to, our church, various political causes all of which might take priority over our favorite college basketball team. Im not there with NIL yet, maybe at some point when I understand it better I will be.
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What's a shame NCJ is that this really shouldn't be a controversial topic at all. The way I see it it's pretty cut and dry; you want to give(to the NIL and/or anywhere else) then give, you don't want to give then don't give. Makes no difference to me what anyone does with their money. Unfortunately, there are posters on this board who like to tell others what they should do with their money, and that's where it gets controversial.
 
monte said:
What's a shame NCJ is that this really shouldn't be a controversial topic at all. The way I see it it's pretty cut and dry; you want to give(to the NIL and/or anywhere else) then give, you don't want to give then don't give. Makes no difference to me what anyone does with their money. Unfortunately, there are posters on this board who like to tell others what they should do with their money, and that's where it gets controversial.
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Monte, I think for the most part those who are arguing for fans to contribute to NIL are doing so because they believe it is the right thing to do for SJU alumni/fans.
I dont question their motives or sincerity, nor do I feel that they are telling me what to do. On the other hand, they haven’t convinced me and that is fine.
Time to move on to hearing about team practices from some of our insiders, lol.
 
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