St John’s in danger of Closing ?

[quote="RedStormNC" post=396009][quote="Adam" post=395976]Considering they just removed email access for all alumni (>1 year after graduation) without even a warning, I'm not surprised.

Also my wife and I have been graduates for 6 years now and neither of us have received a call or anything asking for donations. Not that we're complaining, but seems odd given most colleges contact alumni after a few years and I'd be fine giving some money. Wasted opportunity.[/quote]

Adam - may want to check on Alumni portal, or email alumni office to validate they have your correct contact info.

Their outreach has gotten much better last few years. Mark Andrews and team doing a lot. Once on the list, I'm sure you'll see regular correspondence.[/quote]

Thanks, yeah I haven't received a single email or snail mail from them since graduation. Same goes for my wife. Meanwhile my undergrad college has somehow tracked me down to my current address across the country. I don't doubt that they have good people working there, but based on my limited sample size something seems off. Glad to hear they're improving, though.
 
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[quote="Adam" post=396018][quote="RedStormNC" post=396009][quote="Adam" post=395976]Considering they just removed email access for all alumni (>1 year after graduation) without even a warning, I'm not surprised.

Also my wife and I have been graduates for 6 years now and neither of us have received a call or anything asking for donations. Not that we're complaining, but seems odd given most colleges contact alumni after a few years and I'd be fine giving some money. Wasted opportunity.[/quote]

Adam - may want to check on Alumni portal, or email alumni office to validate they have your correct contact info.

Their outreach has gotten much better last few years. Mark Andrews and team doing a lot. Once on the list, I'm sure you'll see regular correspondence.[/quote]

Thanks, yeah I haven't received a single email or snail mail from them since graduation. Same goes for my wife. Meanwhile my undergrad college has somehow tracked me down to my current address across the country. I don't doubt that they have good people working there, but based on my limited sample size something seems off. Glad to hear they're improving, though.[/quote]

Don't know what school you graduated from within St. John's

The President's newsletter has had articles about giving as well as the Tobin College of Business magazine and Dean's newsletter for starters
 
As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote]

Mike, In terms of endowment, we have the second/third best liquid position in the Big East (1. Georgetown, 2/3 Villanova & St. John's) at about $700 million. Bobby G. focused fiscal management deserves all the credit for that. However, in comparison to other more stable schools, or endowment on a per student basis ($69,000 from the article posted) we fall into the at risk category. Although we are ranked high in the Big East in endowment, that is a deceiving number since a school like Villanova without a campaign since 2014, raises $100 million of "we can basically do whatever we want" money.

The reason schools start asking for donations immediately upon graduation is that they wish to create a culture of giving among alumni. Many schools ask for a tiny amount, for example $20.20 for 2020 grads. They publish the % of giving among their class or withing a particular college within the university (e.g. business school, nursing school, etc.) and create a goal of 100% giving. What they hope to engender are increased donations as graduates begin to have career success, and they endeavor to keep their graduates close to them with alumni gatherings and networking. In many schools, the 1, 5, and even 10 year reunions on campus are very well attended. In terms of getting increased requests for donations, I think it's just a well known fact that those who give once are more likely to give again than someone who has never given. Virtually every charitable organization devotes more focus to repeat donors.

Schools like Harvard, have a center for allumni in Manhattan, that frankly once inside, looks like you entered a medieval castle. Villanova opened a center in Manhattan for alumni about 5 years ago. These places often have meeting space, lounges, a bar, maybe even a restaurant, and also cater events that alumni have preferential treatment. These investments are almost certain to increase alumni giving, and probably help the school in all ways.

Almost certainly the goal is to create a relationship with alumni that makes alums feel closely tied to the school, proud of its success, and eager to help the school become bigger and better.

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.
 
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Fwiw......Endowments are NOT rainy day funds or reserves, nor are they a checking account. Donors typically restrict endowed gifts for specific educational purposes: creating scholarships, supporting professional development, endowing a “chair” position, starting new programs, or building new facilities.
 
For most of its’ existence , St John’s was a Commuter School. No Dorms . While that has changed , most of the School’s Alums attended as , either Day or Night students . Many , if not most , worked part time or full time . As such , not a lot of Students hung around the School , if they weren’t attending Class . And, while you got to know some of your Classmates , you weren’t rubbing elbows with them 24/7 like many other BE Schools . My point ? For many , not me , but the Bond between school and Students are often stronger at Schools who weren’t Commuter Schools . Those Students then become Alums who form the Donating Base . I do think , one of the Strongest attachments of School Pride for Alums is the BB Program . The last 20 years or so of Doldrums haven’t contributed as much , as it did in my Day . I asked my Granddaughter who attends Notre Dame , what’s the best thing about going to the School there . She said the Classes are great but , the best thing is the classmates and friends she has met there and the Campus Environment that they all share . Much of that revolves around football on Saturdays but , is also advanced in the Catholic Faith , which is also a shared Student experience . Attending Mass , though not obligatory , is another of those shared events and strongly attended by Students and Faculty . As a result , ND grads retain that , “ its’ a Special Place, “ throughout their lives . And , they give generously . ND is not a Commuter School and it makes a difference when you are there 24/7 for 4 years . That’s not to cheap shot our School but , just to show some of the differences that separate Alumni Giving .
 
Re ND alumni giving: As you know, grads pony up (in addition to their strong emotional bond) in order to be eligible for football tickets and perhaps give their offspring a shot at being admitted (25% of the ND freshman class are legacies) assuming they have the grades and SAT's/ACT's to be seriously considered

I don't expect our alumni to be as generous as ND's but you would think we could get 10% of our alumni base (It is currently around 5%) to contribute a nominal amount ($25, $50, $100) annually

That said, I'm sure I am tilting at windmills.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

I was on an alumni board for one of the St. John's schools for a number of years and the experience was difficult. I helped clean up the prior Board which did hardly anything but schedule dinners for itself. We added numerous open alumni activities and get-togethers, student interviewing assistance events, golf events, etc. We raised tens of thousands to endow a scholarship. But we never received anything close to sufficient resources from SJU to really get enough events at a high enough quality level to bring in more alumni and more donations. Trying to get the school to just send email distributions or provide inexpensive school-branded items was a struggle, let alone actual people to help facilitate the events. And any event other than the golf outings that required an admission fee resulted in low turnout.
I don't know why SJU doesn't have the same alumni spirit as other schools. Maybe the commuter aspect is the reason. If it weren't for the basketball team, it seems as if our alumni would hardly ever network with each other.
 
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[quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=396052]Re ND alumni giving: As you know, grads pony up (in addition to their strong emotional bond) in order to be eligible for football tickets and perhaps give their offspring a shot at being admitted (25% of the ND freshman class are legacies) assuming they have the grades and SAT's/ACT's to be seriously considered

I don't expect our alumni to be as generous as ND's but you would think we could get 10% of our alumni base (It is currently around 5%) to contribute a nominal amount ($25, $50, $100) annually

That said, I'm sure I am tilting at windmills.[/quote]

Just as an fyi, 30-40 years ago as many as 60% of villanova students were commuters. It was much more of a local catholic school then and still draws its strength from pa, nj, ny, and ct
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote]

Mike, In terms of endowment, we have the second/third best liquid position in the Big East (1. Georgetown, 2/3 Villanova & St. John's) at about $700 million. Bobby G. focused fiscal management deserves all the credit for that. However, in comparison to other more stable schools, or endowment on a per student basis ($69,000 from the article posted) we fall into the at risk category. Although we are ranked high in the Big East in endowment, that is a deceiving number since a school like Villanova without a campaign since 2014, raises $100 million of "we can basically do whatever we want" money.

The reason schools start asking for donations immediately upon graduation is that they wish to create a culture of giving among alumni. Many schools ask for a tiny amount, for example $20.20 for 2020 grads. They publish the % of giving among their class or withing a particular college within the university (e.g. business school, nursing school, etc.) and create a goal of 100% giving. What they hope to engender are increased donations as graduates begin to have career success, and they endeavor to keep their graduates close to them with alumni gatherings and networking. In many schools, the 1, 5, and even 10 year reunions on campus are very well attended. In terms of getting increased requests for donations, I think it's just a well known fact that those who give once are more likely to give again than someone who has never given. Virtually every charitable organization devotes more focus to repeat donors.

Schools like Harvard, have a center for allumni in Manhattan, that frankly once inside, looks like you entered a medieval castle. Villanova opened a center in Manhattan for alumni about 5 years ago. These places often have meeting space, lounges, a bar, maybe even a restaurant, and also cater events that alumni have preferential treatment. These investments are almost certain to increase alumni giving, and probably help the school in all ways.

Almost certainly the goal is to create a relationship with alumni that makes alums feel closely tied to the school, proud of its success, and eager to help the school become bigger and better.

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

UConn has a NYC alumni chapter, but nothing to the extent you mentioned of what Villanova or Harvard have done. I've actually attended a couple of the events and left unimpressed, certainly nothing to entice me to want to donate.
 
[quote="Room112" post=396078][quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote]

Mike, In terms of endowment, we have the second/third best liquid position in the Big East (1. Georgetown, 2/3 Villanova & St. John's) at about $700 million. Bobby G. focused fiscal management deserves all the credit for that. However, in comparison to other more stable schools, or endowment on a per student basis ($69,000 from the article posted) we fall into the at risk category. Although we are ranked high in the Big East in endowment, that is a deceiving number since a school like Villanova without a campaign since 2014, raises $100 million of "we can basically do whatever we want" money.

The reason schools start asking for donations immediately upon graduation is that they wish to create a culture of giving among alumni. Many schools ask for a tiny amount, for example $20.20 for 2020 grads. They publish the % of giving among their class or withing a particular college within the university (e.g. business school, nursing school, etc.) and create a goal of 100% giving. What they hope to engender are increased donations as graduates begin to have career success, and they endeavor to keep their graduates close to them with alumni gatherings and networking. In many schools, the 1, 5, and even 10 year reunions on campus are very well attended. In terms of getting increased requests for donations, I think it's just a well known fact that those who give once are more likely to give again than someone who has never given. Virtually every charitable organization devotes more focus to repeat donors.

Schools like Harvard, have a center for allumni in Manhattan, that frankly once inside, looks like you entered a medieval castle. Villanova opened a center in Manhattan for alumni about 5 years ago. These places often have meeting space, lounges, a bar, maybe even a restaurant, and also cater events that alumni have preferential treatment. These investments are almost certain to increase alumni giving, and probably help the school in all ways.

Almost certainly the goal is to create a relationship with alumni that makes alums feel closely tied to the school, proud of its success, and eager to help the school become bigger and better.

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

UConn has a NYC alumni chapter, but nothing to the extent you mentioned of what Villanova or Harvard have done. I've actually attended a couple of the events and left unimpressed, certainly nothing to entice me to want to donate.[/quote]

I really like the idea of an alumni center in Manhattan that is upscale, large enough, and could be a gathering place for alums after work or for special events.
 
[quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=396024][quote="Adam" post=396018][quote="RedStormNC" post=396009][quote="Adam" post=395976]Considering they just removed email access for all alumni (>1 year after graduation) without even a warning, I'm not surprised.

Also my wife and I have been graduates for 6 years now and neither of us have received a call or anything asking for donations. Not that we're complaining, but seems odd given most colleges contact alumni after a few years and I'd be fine giving some money. Wasted opportunity.[/quote]

Adam - may want to check on Alumni portal, or email alumni office to validate they have your correct contact info.

Their outreach has gotten much better last few years. Mark Andrews and team doing a lot. Once on the list, I'm sure you'll see regular correspondence.[/quote]

Thanks, yeah I haven't received a single email or snail mail from them since graduation. Same goes for my wife. Meanwhile my undergrad college has somehow tracked me down to my current address across the country. I don't doubt that they have good people working there, but based on my limited sample size something seems off. Glad to hear they're improving, though.[/quote]

Don't know what school you graduated from within St. John's

The President's newsletter has had articles about giving as well as the Tobin College of Business magazine and Dean's newsletter for starters[/quote]
JSJ

Do you think SJ needs to come up with a tangible project in order to get broader and more generous support? I think most folks blow off general fund donations...I know its not right but just my feeling
 
[quote="Room112" post=396078][quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote]

Mike, In terms of endowment, we have the second/third best liquid position in the Big East (1. Georgetown, 2/3 Villanova & St. John's) at about $700 million. Bobby G. focused fiscal management deserves all the credit for that. However, in comparison to other more stable schools, or endowment on a per student basis ($69,000 from the article posted) we fall into the at risk category. Although we are ranked high in the Big East in endowment, that is a deceiving number since a school like Villanova without a campaign since 2014, raises $100 million of "we can basically do whatever we want" money.

The reason schools start asking for donations immediately upon graduation is that they wish to create a culture of giving among alumni. Many schools ask for a tiny amount, for example $20.20 for 2020 grads. They publish the % of giving among their class or withing a particular college within the university (e.g. business school, nursing school, etc.) and create a goal of 100% giving. What they hope to engender are increased donations as graduates begin to have career success, and they endeavor to keep their graduates close to them with alumni gatherings and networking. In many schools, the 1, 5, and even 10 year reunions on campus are very well attended. In terms of getting increased requests for donations, I think it's just a well known fact that those who give once are more likely to give again than someone who has never given. Virtually every charitable organization devotes more focus to repeat donors.

Schools like Harvard, have a center for allumni in Manhattan, that frankly once inside, looks like you entered a medieval castle. Villanova opened a center in Manhattan for alumni about 5 years ago. These places often have meeting space, lounges, a bar, maybe even a restaurant, and also cater events that alumni have preferential treatment. These investments are almost certain to increase alumni giving, and probably help the school in all ways.

Almost certainly the goal is to create a relationship with alumni that makes alums feel closely tied to the school, proud of its success, and eager to help the school become bigger and better.

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

UConn has a NYC alumni chapter, but nothing to the extent you mentioned of what Villanova or Harvard have done. I've actually attended a couple of the events and left unimpressed, certainly nothing to entice me to want to donate.[/quot

Out of curiosity, what were the events you attended ??
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=396081][quote="Room112" post=396078][quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote]

Mike, In terms of endowment, we have the second/third best liquid position in the Big East (1. Georgetown, 2/3 Villanova & St. John's) at about $700 million. Bobby G. focused fiscal management deserves all the credit for that. However, in comparison to other more stable schools, or endowment on a per student basis ($69,000 from the article posted) we fall into the at risk category. Although we are ranked high in the Big East in endowment, that is a deceiving number since a school like Villanova without a campaign since 2014, raises $100 million of "we can basically do whatever we want" money.

The reason schools start asking for donations immediately upon graduation is that they wish to create a culture of giving among alumni. Many schools ask for a tiny amount, for example $20.20 for 2020 grads. They publish the % of giving among their class or withing a particular college within the university (e.g. business school, nursing school, etc.) and create a goal of 100% giving. What they hope to engender are increased donations as graduates begin to have career success, and they endeavor to keep their graduates close to them with alumni gatherings and networking. In many schools, the 1, 5, and even 10 year reunions on campus are very well attended. In terms of getting increased requests for donations, I think it's just a well known fact that those who give once are more likely to give again than someone who has never given. Virtually every charitable organization devotes more focus to repeat donors.

Schools like Harvard, have a center for allumni in Manhattan, that frankly once inside, looks like you entered a medieval castle. Villanova opened a center in Manhattan for alumni about 5 years ago. These places often have meeting space, lounges, a bar, maybe even a restaurant, and also cater events that alumni have preferential treatment. These investments are almost certain to increase alumni giving, and probably help the school in all ways.

Almost certainly the goal is to create a relationship with alumni that makes alums feel closely tied to the school, proud of its success, and eager to help the school become bigger and better.

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

UConn has a NYC alumni chapter, but nothing to the extent you mentioned of what Villanova or Harvard have done. I've actually attended a couple of the events and left unimpressed, certainly nothing to entice me to want to donate.[/quote]

I really like the idea of an alumni center in Manhattan that is upscale, large enough, and could be a gathering place for alums after work or for special events.[/quote]

Founded without a location in 1865, by a group of Harvard University alumni, the club first rented a townhouse on 22nd Street.[3] In 1888, the members acquired land on 44th Street. The clubhouse was established in the neighborhood where many of New York City's other clubs, such as the New York Yacht Club, were located, and across the street from the General Society of Mechanics and Tradesmen of the City of New York.

Harvard Club of New York:


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[quote="Section3" post=396099][quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=396024][quote="Adam" post=396018][quote="RedStormNC" post=396009][quote="Adam" post=395976]Considering they just removed email access for all alumni (>1 year after graduation) without even a warning, I'm not surprised.

Also my wife and I have been graduates for 6 years now and neither of us have received a call or anything asking for donations. Not that we're complaining, but seems odd given most colleges contact alumni after a few years and I'd be fine giving some money. Wasted opportunity.[/quote]

Adam - may want to check on Alumni portal, or email alumni office to validate they have your correct contact info.

Their outreach has gotten much better last few years. Mark Andrews and team doing a lot. Once on the list, I'm sure you'll see regular correspondence.[/quote]

Thanks, yeah I haven't received a single email or snail mail from them since graduation. Same goes for my wife. Meanwhile my undergrad college has somehow tracked me down to my current address across the country. I don't doubt that they have good people working there, but based on my limited sample size something seems off. Glad to hear they're improving, though.[/quote]

Don't know what school you graduated from within St. John's

The President's newsletter has had articles about giving as well as the Tobin College of Business magazine and Dean's newsletter for starters[/quote]
JSJ

Do you think SJ needs to come up with a tangible project in order to get broader and more generous support? I think most folks blow off general fund donations...I know its not right but just my feeling[/quote]

I believe the university was in the process of starting a capital campaign in honor of our 150th anniversary before covid reared its ugly head
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=396081][quote="Room112" post=396078][quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote

I really like the idea of an alumni center in Manhattan that is upscale, large enough, and could be a gathering place for alums after work or for special events.[/quote]

Won’t happen. SJU doesn’t have nearly enough alumni willing to pay the dues necessary to have a club/facility like this. I believe SJU alumni, along with a slew of other schools, are eligible to join the Williams Club. And other private NY based clubs that are not school related, like the NY Athletic Club or the Union League Club, have a smattering of SJU Alumn as members.

The school’s endowment is the size it is not because of good fiscal budget management or high levels of donations. It’s because the school bought The College of Insurance at a good time and then sold the property for a nice profit.
 
[quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=396102][quote="Room112" post=396078][quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote]

Mike, In terms of endowment, we have the second/third best liquid position in the Big East (1. Georgetown, 2/3 Villanova & St. John's) at about $700 million. Bobby G. focused fiscal management deserves all the credit for that. However, in comparison to other more stable schools, or endowment on a per student basis ($69,000 from the article posted) we fall into the at risk category. Although we are ranked high in the Big East in endowment, that is a deceiving number since a school like Villanova without a campaign since 2014, raises $100 million of "we can basically do whatever we want" money.

The reason schools start asking for donations immediately upon graduation is that they wish to create a culture of giving among alumni. Many schools ask for a tiny amount, for example $20.20 for 2020 grads. They publish the % of giving among their class or withing a particular college within the university (e.g. business school, nursing school, etc.) and create a goal of 100% giving. What they hope to engender are increased donations as graduates begin to have career success, and they endeavor to keep their graduates close to them with alumni gatherings and networking. In many schools, the 1, 5, and even 10 year reunions on campus are very well attended. In terms of getting increased requests for donations, I think it's just a well known fact that those who give once are more likely to give again than someone who has never given. Virtually every charitable organization devotes more focus to repeat donors.

Schools like Harvard, have a center for allumni in Manhattan, that frankly once inside, looks like you entered a medieval castle. Villanova opened a center in Manhattan for alumni about 5 years ago. These places often have meeting space, lounges, a bar, maybe even a restaurant, and also cater events that alumni have preferential treatment. These investments are almost certain to increase alumni giving, and probably help the school in all ways.

Almost certainly the goal is to create a relationship with alumni that makes alums feel closely tied to the school, proud of its success, and eager to help the school become bigger and better.

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

UConn has a NYC alumni chapter, but nothing to the extent you mentioned of what Villanova or Harvard have done. I've actually attended a couple of the events and left unimpressed, certainly nothing to entice me to want to donate.[/quot

Out of curiosity, what were the events you attended ??[/quote]

One event was to welcome new alumni to the city. It was at some bar designated as the official UConn bar of the city I forget. Another event was one of the former UConn women's players who is now in the WNBA speaking about at Organization she is involved with. Both events had about 25 people, who Id say we're in 20s-30s, and both were at pretty standard bars. Nothing crazy.
 
[quote="Proud Alumn" post=396116][quote="Beast of the East" post=396081][quote="Room112" post=396078][quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote

I really like the idea of an alumni center in Manhattan that is upscale, large enough, and could be a gathering place for alums after work or for special events.[/quote]

Won’t happen. SJU doesn’t have nearly enough alumni willing to pay the dues necessary to have a club/facility like this. I believe SJU alumni, along with a slew of other schools, are eligible to join the Williams Club. And other private NY based clubs that are not school related, like the NY Athletic Club or the Union League Club, have a smattering of SJU Alumn as members.

The school’s endowment is the size it is not because of good fiscal budget management or high levels of donations. It’s because the school bought The College of Insurance at a good time and then sold the property for a nice profit.[/quote]

Details?
 
[quote="Room112" post=396118][quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=396102][quote="Room112" post=396078][quote="Beast of the East" post=396045][quote="Mike Zaun" post=396032]As a '14 grad I started getting calls immediately after. I'm currently saving for a house and of course paying off SJ so I don't have much to spare, but donated last few times around. They sent me a thank you card with an individualized "at a glance" type thing about the program I graduated from, the year, the degree, etc. which was pretty cool honestly. They tried to call again recently. Once you give em a crumb, they become your best friend! In all seriousness though, I wonder the same as a poster above...why are we in such dire straits compared to your average private school? I thought we would be in better position than many. It's always hard to tell if things are exaggerated for effect or if it really is that bad. I get the sense we are too big a name to close for good...and I hope that's the case. That would be an absolute disaster.[/quote]

Mike, In terms of endowment, we have the second/third best liquid position in the Big East (1. Georgetown, 2/3 Villanova & St. John's) at about $700 million. Bobby G. focused fiscal management deserves all the credit for that. However, in comparison to other more stable schools, or endowment on a per student basis ($69,000 from the article posted) we fall into the at risk category. Although we are ranked high in the Big East in endowment, that is a deceiving number since a school like Villanova without a campaign since 2014, raises $100 million of "we can basically do whatever we want" money.

The reason schools start asking for donations immediately upon graduation is that they wish to create a culture of giving among alumni. Many schools ask for a tiny amount, for example $20.20 for 2020 grads. They publish the % of giving among their class or withing a particular college within the university (e.g. business school, nursing school, etc.) and create a goal of 100% giving. What they hope to engender are increased donations as graduates begin to have career success, and they endeavor to keep their graduates close to them with alumni gatherings and networking. In many schools, the 1, 5, and even 10 year reunions on campus are very well attended. In terms of getting increased requests for donations, I think it's just a well known fact that those who give once are more likely to give again than someone who has never given. Virtually every charitable organization devotes more focus to repeat donors.

Schools like Harvard, have a center for allumni in Manhattan, that frankly once inside, looks like you entered a medieval castle. Villanova opened a center in Manhattan for alumni about 5 years ago. These places often have meeting space, lounges, a bar, maybe even a restaurant, and also cater events that alumni have preferential treatment. These investments are almost certain to increase alumni giving, and probably help the school in all ways.

Almost certainly the goal is to create a relationship with alumni that makes alums feel closely tied to the school, proud of its success, and eager to help the school become bigger and better.

I'm told by those in administration that when St. John's runs events for alumni that are free, they are very well attended. If they charge even a nominal amount, they are not well attended at all. As a school and alumni base, we have a lot of work to do.

After many years of virtual inactivity save for season tix, I've met a lot of great people here on redmen.com and also through R-W. I always give first preference to qualified St. John's grads when hiring, because our strength is in our unity.

In terms of inactivating email addresses, I wonder if schools consider the liability of perhaps having alums appear to be students or administrators long after they have left the school. Most schools appear to have trended towards inactivating email addresses within 1 year of graduation or sooner. It could be a liability to the school to keep them active. It may also be getting pressure from companies that offer steep student discounts, Microsoft is an example whereby MS Office is sharply discounted for students, but I'm not sure.[/quote]

UConn has a NYC alumni chapter, but nothing to the extent you mentioned of what Villanova or Harvard have done. I've actually attended a couple of the events and left unimpressed, certainly nothing to entice me to want to donate.[/quot

Out of curiosity, what were the events you attended ??[/quote]

One event was to welcome new alumni to the city. It was at some bar designated as the official UConn bar of the city I forget. Another event was one of the former UConn women's players who is now in the WNBA speaking about at Organization she is involved with. Both events had about 25 people, who Id say we're in 20s-30s, and both were at pretty standard bars. Nothing crazy.[/quote]

The smartest schools spend a lot of money hiring real talent in development (fund raising) positions. When my kids went to Villanova, the oldest one was only a few weeks into freshman year when they reached out to me as a parent, knew what I did, and had an idea that I could help. They also were very gracious in their approach. I ended up donating there for 7 years, and will again in the future. Boston College on the other hand, with a much larger endowment ($5 billion) made no effort whatsoever to reach me directly while my other kid was there.

It really takes some coordinated campaigns that are well funded to raise money at the college level. The events you attended at UCONN appear to have been unsuccessful, and perhaps either ill conceived or disorganized. Building a strong allegiance from alumni takes years, and there is no good reason why we can't attract more alumni as active supporters of SJU
 
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