SJU Trivia

Felton was also the head coach at South Carolina for a few years (late 80's - early 90's?)

George was one of many New York kids Frank McGuire signed to play in Columbia. I think he was on the same team as John Roche, Tom Riker and Owens from the Catholic leagues. They were in the ACC back then.

George played for All Hallows. The other guys you mentioned played for LaSalle.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1979&dat=19720426&id=XXMiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dKoFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2341,3357201

Riker was a Long Island kid.
Owens and Roche were city kids who played at La Salle Academy.
Roche had the best hops in the city.

Kevin Winters would argue with that. Roche was a great guard though. You are right on Riker who played at St. Doms.


Brian Winters?

Sorry, Kevin Joyce

In your defense (not that you need it), in my memory, Brian Winters and Kevin Joyce are one and the same ... Archbishop Molloy kids in succession, same size, similar skills.

I don't remember them to be similar at all. Winters was a lights out shooter as a guard. Joyce was a rock solid body who did most things well but wasn't as big a scorer. I didn't see them play in HS. Joyce was the superior athlete of the two, and I wouldn't call them clones of each other. Would like to hear form others who might disagree.

I did see them play a lot & agree with your distinctions. Never thought Winters would be better in long run, but he was.

If I'm not mistaken, at Molloy, Joyce was more highly regarded. I may be wrong, but I thought a friend at the time described Joyce as a boy with a man's body. I know he played for the Pacers, but I could have sworn his career was longer and that he played in the NBA, but was wrong.

Brian Winters, who was an excellent NBA player was one of the key guys who the Lakers traded to the Bucks to get Lew Alcindor.

As an aside, I did go to a bunch of Molloy games when they had Whitey Rigsby (star at Nova, Rollie's first recruit there, and long time radio announcer), Billy Clarke (lightning fast, but flamed out at SJU, and transferred to Rutgers), John Lowenhaupt (lights out dead eye shooter who went to star William and Mary where he is 3rd all time scorer), and Richie Hill (star pitcher for St Johs - center for Molloy and strong athletic body at about 6'4). I think jimmy Gooch had graduated the year earlier (he died very young in a car accident). Rigsby, Clarke and Gooch were from Rosedale I believe. Can't remember who the fifth starter was in the year I mentioned - but what a great Molloy team that could move the ball like Princeton.

http://articles.philly.com/2009-04-02/sports/24984388_1_villanova-broadcasting-love-affair
 
Before he retired from the NBA after a 10 year career , this former St. John's player was the third leading scorer in league history.

Not only that, but he was the youngest person to be named First Team All-League for more than 60 years when he was selected at the age of 21. This record stood for decades until it was broken by LeBron James. He was a four time first team all NBA and led the league in scoring one year.

If you can name him without using the Internet, you have my undying respect because I never heard of this guy.

I got the guys name from the internet but I won't give it away. You would have to be a pretty old poster (probably over 80 to have seen him play and remember him).
 
What's really puzzling is your phrase "I never heard of this guy." Given the pro career this guy had, it's hard to believe that posters who go back a ways (even before my time) wouldn't have heard of him. I guess my question is: How far back does your memory of St. John's basketball go? Is this player someone whose name older (much older) posters would be familiar with, even though you're not, or was he so obscure a player at St. John's that it's unlikely anyone remembers him a Redmen? Bottom line: I have a name in mind. It's just a guess: I have no idea how long he played in the NBA; I never saw him play; but I do remember first hearing his name as a kid, and I know he had the reputation of a big-time scorer. ... But here's the rub: His name is far from unheard of among long-time fans, so I'm scratching my head.

So after all that, what is your answer?
 
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