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correct me if I'm wrong, or perhaps my interpretation is off, but what you said suggests that he basically wants to go to a team where he can be the primary #1 option and really showcase himself. I understand that may be the best option for his future prospects, but if that is the case, perhaps that does not align with SJU and what Pitino wants and how the team has been built thus far?

I think he would absolutely be a top 2-3 offensive option on the team, but I don't think the players on the roster allow for just one alpha male type offensive threat and everyone else being second.

Interesting about him improving off the dribble, that is one of the biggest things I noticed as well on him. He moves like Kadary (more methodical and uses his size and strength as opposed to speed and quickness via dribble moves) but has to work on creating his own shot, and getting space on those jumpers.
I'm with you. And personally always nervous about guys coming in already with an eye on the next level. Because it could impact how they fit in with team chemistry and if they're willing to accept a role. Might be better to go with a guy who is accepting of a role and just wants to help the team win. Obviously, that guy likely won't be nearly as talented as Watkins.
 
they are completely different type of players, age is also in play with Castle, Castle is a freak of nature athlete, Watkins doesn't have that in him.
what meant is that a player like Watkins even if was number 1 option here or wherever, that would not be his role in NBA. NBA team would want to see if he could be a rotation player in their system.
 
I'm sorry for both the confusion and my general lack or articulation :)
He's fine fitting into an offensive and not being the primary option..,what the concern is some school might use him out of position out of a lack of depth at that position. He had a school reach out that thought he'd make a good point foward and primary ball handler ..no interest. Had a team with a good post that wanted him to with 2 man with him...no interest in being a spot up shooter. How he's used, where he's used is more important then everything running through him
Well wouldn’t we basically be playing him at the 4 when he is or would be a 3?
Would that be an issue?
 
W/ the program in excellent hands, it's a lot of fun to just watch and see how things unfold. If we sign Watkins that would be great. If someone else, likely would express those same sentiments. Along those lines, I saw that Kaluma (former Creighton and more recently Kansas State) withdrew from the NBA draft. Any word on whether there is possible interest in reaching out to him. He's 6' 7", more of a traditional power forward who has proven Big East talent. I would think a pretty compelling fit with the program.
 
W/ the program in excellent hands, it's a lot of fun to just watch and see how things unfold. If we sign Watkins that would be great. If someone else, likely would express those same sentiments. Along those lines, I saw that Kaluma (former Creighton and more recently Kansas State) withdrew from the NBA draft. Any word on whether there is possible interest in reaching out to him. He's 6' 7", more of a traditional power forward who has proven Big East talent. I would think a pretty compelling fit with the program.
Agree and all his numbers ppg, FG%, FT% 3pt fg% and rebounds per game improved a little last year with Kansas State. He'd be a great get imho.
 
Well wouldn’t we basically be playing him at the 4 when he is or would be a 3?
Would that be an issue?

Agree Larry, don’t think , according to 79, he would want to be pin holed at the 4 or even stretch 4. He wants to play out at the wing where we currently have Luis, Scott and even Glover. Pitino is looking for a Power Forward or stretch 4 who is going to want to mix it up down low. If Watkins comes here with the demands that 79 is talking about, I can’t see Pitino ( who repeatedly said he needs a PF) going along with that but what do I know.
 
Ok now that it's public can say this ..have spoken last few days with kid and his ppl ... yes it's about money but if it's even close they are really interested in how he'll be used and featured and how that helps his nba prospects. Example..in Lakers workout saw him as a 3 who needed better off dribble shot and wing D stopping penetration...he wants to be used in a way that helps him and not as a filler for a teams need..which btw is EXACTLY right approach. What school does that in combo with money...will come down to 3 as i understand with SJU right there
I don't sew how he fits here based on your statement. We need a PF, not another wing
 
I'm sorry for both the confusion and my general lack or articulation :)
He's fine fitting into an offensive and not being the primary option..,what the concern is some school might use him out of position out of a lack of depth at that position. He had a school reach out that thought he'd make a good point foward and primary ball handler ..no interest. Had a team with a good post that wanted him to with 2 man with him...no interest in being a spot up shooter. How he's used, where he's used is more important then everything running through him
Thanks for the clarification
 
I really don't think we should be concerned about him being the "3" or "4". The positions in the NBA are all interchangable and don't really matter. Watkins will be seen as a wing prospect, and, if anything, it'll be extremely important that he shows he can guard 3s and 4s.
 
For Jamirs sake i'll try and clarify. He isn't demanding anything in respect to on thr court. He went through the process, was receptive to the feedback and wants to place himself in a position that best allows him to work on those things. It's the smart move. He will meet with the coaches who will pitch him on how that usage, whatever that may be and make a decision best for his future. He plays hard. Is really good and a good teammate.
 
For Jamirs sake i'll try and clarify. He isn't demanding anything in respect to on thr court. He went through the process, was receptive to the feedback and wants to place himself in a position that best allows him to work on those things. It's the smart move. He will meet with the coaches who will pitch him on how that usage, whatever that may be and make a decision best for his future. He plays hard. Is really good and a good teammate.
Thanks again. This approach shows he's mature and has a good head on his shoulders to begin with.
 
I think your downplaying Watkins athletic ability a bit IMO
when compared to Castle? They aren't close in my opinion. Watkins lacks that quick twitch burst. Obviously that doesn't mean he isn't immensely talented, he just isn't Vince Carter-esque
 
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I don't sew how he fits here based on your statement. We need a PF, not another wing
Eh, as the last 3 weeks have played out I've sold myself on not necessarily NEEDING a PF, especially if the "other" option is someone like Watkins. Sure we wouldn't have a deep front court when it comes to size, but the trade off for insane offensive versatility positions 1 through 4 is worth it. You're bigger at the 4 regardless than last year with Ledlum if it's a mix of Scott, RJ, Watkins, Zuby at the 4...and in the very sporadic times they play Zuby and Vince together (again I think this will be rare as of now) you're definitely big enough.

No Big East team is playing 2-3 guys that are 6'9+ at the same time in their front court. We'll be ok and playing "small" against that would give us a massive advantage.
 
Eh, as the last 3 weeks have played out I've sold myself on not necessarily NEEDING a PF, especially if the "other" option is someone like Watkins. Sure we wouldn't have a deep front court when it comes to size, but the trade off for insane offensive versatility positions 1 through 4 is worth it. You're bigger at the 4 regardless than last year with Ledlum if it's a mix of Scott, RJ, Watkins, Zuby at the 4...and in the very sporadic times they play Zuby and Vince together (again I think this will be rare as of now) you're definitely big enough.

No Big East team is playing 2-3 guys that are 6'9+ at the same time in their front court. We'll be ok and playing "small" against that would give us a massive advantage.
I get what you're saying Dave, and I agree with a lot of it, however, our HOF coach said we need a PF. Obviously he can walk that back, just a concern.
 
when compared to Castle? They aren't close in my opinion. Watkins lacks that quick twitch burst. Obviously that doesn't mean he isn't immensely talented, he just isn't Vince Carter-esque
I’m not sure what you see that makes you think they aren’t close. Castle is a great athlete but I don’t see this out of the world athleticism. Plenty of proof of Watkins displaying great athleticism. Maybe it’s more you have a higher opinion of his athleticism and not a lesser one of Watkins. To me, as vertical athletes, there is little difference. Castle a little better side to side but he’s also shorter and more of a guard defender.
 
He averaged 15 & 6 in ACC
Ledlum averaged 9 and 7
Team will be much better with him
10 points. Come on, 20 years from now his kids could be debating someone on redfans about his senior year production and as you know every point matters.
 
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